Homemade Imagineering
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News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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Moth
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It's in flux. BBTHM Phase 2 is a decade off at best. You know Disney, lots can change.
dreamfinding
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brb1006
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And the comments are still open!
MK-fan
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What I dont understand is the imagineers who worked on this ride. Are these Imagineers not fans of Disney’s best rides. Most of Disney’s best rides have an element of danger, it’s gives the ride a memorable trait. Is it just a job to them and they don’t know what makes a good Disney ride. It’s not like it’s a budget thing, the storyline is something you’d see on a Disney Jr kids tv show.
Is it a Disney animation thing? There are no Disney thrill rides based on their animated films or Pixar movies. The only one that comes close but not by a lot is Seven Dwarfs Mine train or slinky coaster but those are mild thrills that The whole family can go on these but they have no storylines because they’re outdoor coasters for the most part. Frozen rides are also a mild thrill with the small drop part and the storyline is paper thin with no element of danger. The big fall in Tianas adventure qualifies it more as a thrill ride while the lift hill provides a tense buildup and its as though they wanted to kill the element of danger and make it more kid friendly. Does the big Disney brass not want to alienate young fans of their animated movie franchises and not buy their merchandise or something? I have no idea what the endgame here is.
I don’t know where the issues are coming from. The big wigs? The imagineers?
Is it a Disney animation thing? There are no Disney thrill rides based on their animated films or Pixar movies. The only one that comes close but not by a lot is Seven Dwarfs Mine train or slinky coaster but those are mild thrills that The whole family can go on these but they have no storylines because they’re outdoor coasters for the most part. Frozen rides are also a mild thrill with the small drop part and the storyline is paper thin with no element of danger. The big fall in Tianas adventure qualifies it more as a thrill ride while the lift hill provides a tense buildup and its as though they wanted to kill the element of danger and make it more kid friendly. Does the big Disney brass not want to alienate young fans of their animated movie franchises and not buy their merchandise or something? I have no idea what the endgame here is.
I don’t know where the issues are coming from. The big wigs? The imagineers?
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The answer is (sadly) that Disney isn’t as good anymore, as the original designers of these rides were. They now design by committee and the finished products come out looking like exactly what they are, a hodgepodge of too many executives and board meetings and not enough artists making creative decisions. They had better stop messing with their core classic rides. They no longer have the ability to compete with their former selves.
Ismael Flores
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what is up with that ugly wall with painted foods. what a way to cheap out on some proper theming there.
Ismael Flores
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The thing I hate the most about the change is the awful lighting package. Why do they think that everything needs to be saturated in colors that just make little sense to the setting. what is it about this bright purples and reds some of the night pictures of the outside of the salt dome or whatever it is seems overly done.
Ismael Flores
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it really amazes me how this team of WDI did not keep most of those critters from Splash. All they had to do was redress a few of them and have kept the inside much more lively. Instead they lumped expensive AA's in certain areas where the logs pass by quickly and do not get to even enjoy them. That whole area with just a walled screen is just a bad choice
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GhostHost1000
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That lighting package is what should be around Pandora more
TomboyJanet
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A plot
peter11435
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Surferboy567
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Sir_Cliff
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I think this is a very good point. It seems they spent a lot of time creating a whole backstory and universe for this attraction and a lot less time thinking through the actual experience of the ride.
It's very strange, but it relates to my sense about modern Imagineering that a lot of them seem to have taken creative writing classes and enjoy writing these long, elaborate backstories for their own sake that don't necessarily improve the end product (whether a ride or store). The backstories are increasingly treated as an additional element of the experience for fans to read and learn rather than to help Imagineers give internal consistency to what they are designing.
This might be the peak of that tendency in that they've created this whole world of a food co-op for riders to step into in the queue before getting on a ride that has almost nothing to do with a food co-op beyond the idea that the main character in that ride owns and works in one.
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Surferboy567
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It appears they cranked up the Dig a Little Deeper on the lift hill meaning you can actually hear it now. Definitely prefer that than the silence on the Disney POV. It also presents better in VR with scale, the fireworks in the background help as well.
Splash is still better but it improves things just a little.
Splash is still better but it improves things just a little.
Is there a single shred of evidence to the story that Iger said this ride was boring?
If so how the heck did he allow this to open?
Who he the exec who took a look at this and said “this is amazing let’s open it up!”
I just don’t understand how this was allowed to happen.
If so how the heck did he allow this to open?
Who he the exec who took a look at this and said “this is amazing let’s open it up!”
I just don’t understand how this was allowed to happen.
Sir_Cliff
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I know this is wading into controversial territory, but...
I agree that this could have worked a lot better if they had of basically listened to Tony Baxter's description of how the plot of the original Splash worked to build up and relieve tension and then designed a PatF story with the same story beats. One of the reasons I think they did not do this is because they wanted this to be a much lighter attraction specifically to appeal to PatF's younger fans.
I know a lot of people will disagree with me, but I really feel that the big drop was more an obstacle or challenge for the designers of this ride rather than a feature because there is no way you would design a PatF-themed attraction from scratch that had such a big thrill element with the potential to scare younger children.
ToTBellHop
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When I first heard the story, I didn’t actually mind the “find band members” portion since the start of Splash was also pretty light-hearted. What I don’t get is the whole, “we will shrink you down for 90 seconds and then make you big again.” It is so forced and also doesn’t make much sense following a movie where it actually wasn’t that simple to get a small thing big again. Apparently Mama Odie can just do that?
When I was told the story, I wondered aloud why they wouldn’t just have the story be:
1) help Tiana find members of her band (cute critters and fireflies)
2) boat accidentally transported into The Other Side during the double dip (keep the fun vortex effect they made)
3) replace Laughing Place with Friends from the Other Side
4) have that impressive Mama Odie AA pull guests out of The Other Side with that same vortex effect from the double dip used on the lift hill
5) end at the party you found the critters for
The “shrink for 90 seconds” portion is supposed to create some drama leading to a climax but 90 seconds isn’t enough time for that. They should have just used the demons from the film since the drama is baked in there. They don’t even need Facilier if they insist he’s dead even though they seemingly kept vocals from the very dead Ray in the ride.
When I was told the story, I wondered aloud why they wouldn’t just have the story be:
1) help Tiana find members of her band (cute critters and fireflies)
2) boat accidentally transported into The Other Side during the double dip (keep the fun vortex effect they made)
3) replace Laughing Place with Friends from the Other Side
4) have that impressive Mama Odie AA pull guests out of The Other Side with that same vortex effect from the double dip used on the lift hill
5) end at the party you found the critters for
The “shrink for 90 seconds” portion is supposed to create some drama leading to a climax but 90 seconds isn’t enough time for that. They should have just used the demons from the film since the drama is baked in there. They don’t even need Facilier if they insist he’s dead even though they seemingly kept vocals from the very dead Ray in the ride.