Tha Realest
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Welcome to the boards! Enjoy your time here.I love Jennifer Lewis and I love Mama Odie! I'm glad to see she's enjoying herself and enjoying the ride! Wish I was there with them having fun... *sigh*
Welcome to the boards! Enjoy your time here.I love Jennifer Lewis and I love Mama Odie! I'm glad to see she's enjoying herself and enjoying the ride! Wish I was there with them having fun... *sigh*
You joke, but I'd be shocked any of those attractions survived under Iger's leadership.You're on thin ice Mr. Toad, Twilight Zone, Tiki Room, and Aerosmith.
Yeah, I'm not buying the "oh, you can't judge it from a ride video, you have to go on it!" excuse. The Ratatouille ride didn't look any more impressive to me when I rode it when it did in the POV. It feels like just another excuse for pro-rethemers to move the goalposts and shut up any criticism of the ride.Rides tend to look better in person, what a shocker. Though actually, not always. Some actually look worse (Little Mermaid is one such example as all of the flaws with the lack of detail, exposed ceiling structure, poor scale of scenes/characters and lighting are magnified tenfold). And i've seen at least a few people who HAVE ridden TBA who say it looks worse in person. Flat video projection tends to look much worse in person, since it contrasts poorly and looks much more dim and blurry against 3-dimensional sets.
The complaints that most people have levied about the ride however are not things that would be improved by riding in person. You're not fixing the lack of AA's, basic moving props, empty stretches of nothing, the stupid dialog and story, worse songs etc by riding it in person.
Yeah, the Louis ones, maybe. The miscellaneous animals are about as "impressive" as the ones in the Little Mermaid ride.The animatronics are exceptionally impressive.
Well said.Nowhere do they talk about trying to make this ride more fun and entertaining than Splash Mountain.
Y'know what? A Princess and the Frog attraction in the style of "Timon and Pumbaa's Virtual Safari 1.5" would be a lot more fun than Tiana's Bayou Adventure.View attachment 791307
The original Mondo
That projection is complete cringe.
The way Tiana and Louis move their heads in that projection, and the looks they have on their faces, just looks weird. And definitely cringy.
That CGI animation is so bad (even Chicken Little had better animation than that!). Tiana - both the animatronics and the CGI version on that screen - looks tremendously off-model. I'm beginning to doubt that Walt Disney Animation Studios actually did the animation for this ride like that one press release claimed.The CG model of Tiana doesn't even really look like her, imo.
I got it to the extent of that the rabbit was being perused by the fox and bear, and ultimately escaped and found his way to Home Sweet Home again.Some people did it get it. Many did not, myself and my whole family included. And that’s even with my parents riding it in its opening year.
The storyline and events of Splash just were not all that clear to a large portion of the audience. Some got it most definitely, but I’ve experienced conversations with many people who were unaware there was even a through narrative and not just a bunch of disconnected vignettes.
Agree to disagree, I suppose.Should have built a different, or new, ride.
Or, figured it out over the last year and a half. Oh well.
It’s buggy everywhere and incoherent even when it fully works, but at least relevance has been activated.Off a POV from today:
Goin' Down the Bayou
Dig a Little Deeper
- Show lights are seemingly out where the geese were, leaving the scene very shadowy (Revenge of the shadow man?)
- Timoleon seems to not be rocking back and forth
- Beau the Possum isn’t rocking back and forth
- PawPaw’s hand is broken again (It was fixed in a different POV)
- Claude (father bear) is seemingly falling backwards and isn’t rocking back and forth as fast as he should be.
Secret Spice
- None of the frogs in the former Laughin’ Place are working.
- Mama Odie resets twice (Seriously, why even include the leaves? Just have Odie out the entire time. It's just obvious she's resetting between lines.
- Lottie isn’t swaying back and forth
- Eudora isn’t moving at all
- Tiana isn’t moving from the neck down
- Mama Odie seems to have had a stroke as her right side isn’t moving
I’m scheduled for the d23 preview next weekend. Disney was very specific in the verbiage that we are welcome to ride as much as we want during the event. Starting to believe that this is going to be an issue…Recap on the second operational day for the public (technically APs..):
- 7am drop lasted for 24 mins, versus yesterday's ~2 hours. Seems like APs with a MK reservation were more proactive to getting a BG right away after yesterday's situation.
- 1pm drop only lasted for about 1 sec. This is somewhat of a surprise because there were no extended downtimes leading up to the 1pm drop. Maybe the afternoon 1pm drop really only has a limited allotment/supply to account for any downtimes in the afternoon.
Now for the downtimes:
- It failed to open with the official park open again at 9am. Opened for BGs at 9:39am.
- Then at around 1:45pm, it closed for another ~1.5 hours.
- Around 4:30pm, it closed for 30 mins.
- Then at 6:29pm, it stopped calling BGs and would not call anymore BGs for the rest of the night. The park closes at 11pm, so there was about another 4 hours of operational time. Could also be they ran out of BGs to call, but I doubt.
So in total, 376 mins, or ~6 hours 16 mins of total downtime today.
Magic Kingdom was open for 14 hours today, so it was closed for ~44% of the day.
A little bit better than yesterday's downtime of 7 hours, but still not good and ideal.
There are no AP previews tomorrow 6/15.
Day 2 Stats Recap in TBA VQ thread:
They probably won’t do anything until the 28thI rode the WDWRR recently and the shudders blocking the view of the finale look permanent. I hope that they open them up towards opening but it is worrying they haven’t done so already.
Yeah, I'm not buying the "oh, you can't judge it from a ride video, you have to go on it!" excuse. The Ratatouille ride didn't look any more impressive to me when I rode it when it did in the POV. It feels like just another excuse for pro-rethemers to move the goalposts and shut up any criticism of the ride.
No one is comparing those attractions POV videos to this; many (most?) of us have experienced Splash, so we have a reference point.In my opinion, some of the best attractions at the parks would look less than impressive on POV videos.
If you can decide that a ride is bad based on a video that doesn’t capture even half of the ride experience, what are you basing your opinion on?
- Tiki Room
- Swiss Family Treehouse
- Space Mountain
- Flight of Passage
I was the one comparing POVs of those attractions to TBA's. Did you see the post I was quoting? He said:No one is comparing those attractions POV videos to this; many (most?) of us have experienced Splash, so we have a reference point.
Videos don’t miss an incoherent plot or non-working AAs/screens.
Good point about most of us having ridden Splash (I know Brer Panther certainly did!) and therefore having a reference point. But wouldn't you agree that experiencing most rides in-person is different than watching them on video? Often in ways that can make a huge difference on our perception of what makes a ride impressive?Yeah, I'm not buying the "oh, you can't judge it from a ride video, you have to go on it!" excuse. The Ratatouille ride didn't look any more impressive to me when I rode it when it did in the POV. It feels like just another excuse for pro-rethemers to move the goalposts and shut up any criticism of the ride.
The problem again is that the specific issues that are being levied against Tiana are by and large issues that are not going to change or become better by riding it in person. The number of AA's is not going to magically go up if I am physically sitting in the boat, all of those areas that used to have characters before are not going to suddenly become occupied again. Nor is the movement of the new critter figures going to improve upon riding it either. I'm also not going to enjoy the finale song more by riding it. Nor is the dialog going to get any less stupid.I was the one comparing POVs of those attractions to TBA's. Did you see the post I was quoting? He said:
Good point about most of us having ridden Splash (I know Brer Panther certainly did!) and therefore having a reference point. But wouldn't you agree that experiencing most rides in-person is different than watching them on video? Often in ways that can make a huge difference on our perception of what makes a ride impressive?
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