News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[celluloid]

Has Disney going Meta ever worked for them? Under New Management, Incredicoaster, Mission BO, the preshow for Cosmic Rewind, Journey Into Your Imagination....Disney needs to just go is in what they do best, telling an earnest and charming story instead of trying to be hip and wink at the audience.

Only rarely when carefully done.

Tomorrowland 1994. A perfect example of Meta done with story purpose. And it worked because Tomorrowland was not necessarily at Walt Disney World, but its own place.
Country Bears and original Tiki were aware they were putting on a show, but balanced carefully by they characters.
Alien Encounter was in the Tomorrowland Interplanetary Convention Center where we see what happened with tech in Excess. It even referenced past attractions in the preshow to acknowledge they once existed and why they don't anymore. Across the way was the Metropolis Science Center giving a zany but more positive demonstration. The other attractions fit in as well. Ironically, Buzz is kind of a weakpoint in there because instead of him being based on the space cop he is, we have giant batteries and toys.



Cosmic Rewind does not commit to this as well and tries too hard. It is not earnest. Tomorrowland was earnest.

 

[TheCoasterNerd]

Has Disney going Meta ever worked for them? Under New Management, Incredicoaster, Mission BO, the preshow for Cosmic Rewind, Journey Into Your Imagination....Disney needs to just go is in what they do best, telling an earnest and charming story instead of trying to be hip and wink at the audience.

Mission BO is regarded as one of the best rides at Disneyland, averaging around an hour waits, but with the normal wait most busy days being around 100 minutes, with a historical maximum of 500 minutes
So yes, it has worked in the past

 

[Tha Realest]

Tiana seems like a Live Laugh and Love type, but that's just me.

They might as well have a banner over the lift hill that says "LIFT HILL" and one during the drop that says "BIG DROP"

PATF by way of THEY LIVE.

 

[JoeCamel]

Has Disney going Meta ever worked for them? Under New Management, Incredicoaster, Mission BO, the preshow for Cosmic Rewind, Journey Into Your Imagination....Disney needs to just go is in what they do best, telling an earnest and charming story instead of trying to be hip and wink at the audience.

The people that did that are all dead and gone

 

[Professortango1]

Mission BO is regarded as one of the best rides at Disneyland, averaging around an hour waits, but with the normal wait most busy days being around 100 minutes, with a historical maximum of 500 minutes
So yes, it has worked in the past

Mission BO averages wait times similar to TOT. It was typically 30-50 minutes before Genie+. The ride is also pretty divisive with many finding it a little cringe/cheap, but still physically fun in a park devoid of other fully themed thrill rides. Its Mission BO or RSR.

It also has the "benefit" that most of the meta quips cannot be heard by guests as it's drowned out by the party music, ride system, and crowds reacting to the constant movement.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Mission BO is regarded as one of the best rides at Disneyland, averaging around an hour waits, but with the normal wait most busy days being around 100 minutes, with a historical maximum of 500 minutes
So yes, it has worked in the past

Let's see how popular it is in 20 years, when Guardians is not a modern IP anymore and Chris Pratt is playing over-the-hill grandfather-types.

 

[EagleScout610]

Has Disney going Meta ever worked for them? Under New Management, Incredicoaster, Mission BO, the preshow for Cosmic Rewind, Journey Into Your Imagination....Disney needs to just go is in what they do best, telling an earnest and charming story instead of trying to be hip and wink at the audience.

Sadly they can't anymore. We're far from the Baxter/Gordon/Davis days.

 

[Ghost93]

Let's see how popular it is in 20 years, when Guardians is not a modern IP anymore and Chris Pratt is playing over-the-hill grandfather-types.

If Guardians becomes outdated by then, the ride can be rethemed to "Tiana's Space Adventure." She needs a special ingredient that can only be found in the far reaches of space.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Let's see how popular it is in 20 years, when Guardians is not a modern IP anymore and Chris Pratt is playing over-the-hill grandfather-types.

Yeah, just like how Tower of Terror is past its prime with Rod Sterling's death and the next generation not knowing who he is or anything about this so-called 'Twilight Zone'!! Time to retheme it!! Way past its 20 year shelf life!!!

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Yeah, just like how Tower of Terror is past its prime with Rod Sterling's death and the next generation not knowing who he is or anything about this so-called 'Twilight Zone'!! Time to retheme it!! Way past its 20 year shelf life!!!

Tower of Terror: Created with an IP that was already considered "classic"

MB: Created to synergize with a popular IP with a movie coming out that year

I think there's a bit of a difference there.

 

[Mike S]

Tower of Terror: Created with an IP that was already considered "classic"

MB: Created to synergize with a popular IP with a movie coming out that year

I think there's a bit of a difference there.

I’ll agree with this. While the MCU was absolutely massive for its first 10 years I think we still have to wait and see if those films up to Endgame are still talked about in 20-30 years.

If only the franchise could be given some god damn breathing room. I think their biggest mistake was attempting to keep ever growing stakes post Endgame. Phase 4 should’ve essentially been a reset to zero like a new Phase 1. Smaller stakes contained to each individual hero eventually building back up to Avengers. Why is everyone dealing with a potential world ending threat? For me the biggest offender of this was Shang Chi with the ending “DRAGONS!!!!” fight. The Flying Fortress in Black Widow was also stupid to me. That movie should’ve essentially been “Winter Soldier 2” but even more grounded. Basically PG-13 female led John Wick.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Tower of Terror: Created with an IP that was already considered "classic"

MB: Created to synergize with a popular IP with a movie coming out that year

I think there's a bit of a difference there.

So, you're saying a franchise that is already 10 years old (and much older thru the comics), and grossed $2.5B at the Box Office (not even counting being part of the Infinity Saga which made another $4.8B) and has two popular Disney rides isn't already classic and may be out of vogue just 10 years from now?

Ok.

 

[Mike S]

So, you're saying a franchise that is already 10 years old (and much older thru the comics), and grossed $2.5B at the Box Office (not even counting being part of the Infinity Saga which made another $4.8B) and has two popular Disney rides isn't already classic and may be out of vogue just 10 years from now?

Ok.

If the movies keep performing the way they are, potentially yes. They need to slow the heck down and refocus on what made it huge in the first place before they hit that “jump the shark” moment. They need to find characters for people to latch on to like they did with Cap and Iron Man which have left two gaping holes in the franchise.

I guess we’ll see how Deadpool does this year though I have a feeling if it does do well it’ll be an anomaly.

 

[Professortango1]

Yeah, just like how Tower of Terror is past its prime with Rod Sterling's death and the next generation not knowing who he is or anything about this so-called 'Twilight Zone'!! Time to retheme it!! Way past its 20 year shelf life!!!

The Twilight Zone is a part of our cultural lexicon. I grew up well after the show and knew what they were spoofing on cartoon shows and such. The format has become familiar with Night Gallery and other similar anthology shows being told to us by a host. There's the new Twilight Zone. Guillermo Del Toro's Cabinet of Curiosities and I'm sure plenty others.

The show also, for the 2.0 versions, wasn't the focus of the attraction. It was a framing device for the ghost story that we were stepping into. Instead of the shattering window at the end of the hallway, we got the ghosts in the elevator car who dropped out of sight, before our own jump scare. Instead of a 5th dimension room filled with iconography from the opening credits, we got a practical effect of us vanishing into this ghost realm. Being sucked into another dimension.

If you knew nothing about TWZ, you still understood the ride perfectly.

Mission BO...has a bit more heavy lifting to do. The Collector is a spaceman who steals things and his building-like spaceship fortress landed here in California Adventure, across from Disneyland, show he could show the Terrans his newest exhibit, a crew of characters including Jurassic Park guy, talking raccoon, and a green lady. The only way to access this exhibit is through a lift that is so secure that it requires a security scan, but is open to the general public, and stops at the power station that controls the security system. And there's a tree person who is tiny inside the ride, but giant outside the ride.

 

[Professortango1]

So, you're saying a franchise that is already 10 years old (and much older thru the comics), and grossed $2.5B at the Box Office (not even counting being part of the Infinity Saga which made another $4.8B) and has two popular Disney rides isn't already classic and may be out of vogue just 10 years from now?

Ok.

We will see how the Jimmy Fallon ride at USO feels in 10 years. Luckily, they didn't utilize any of the characters or plot in Tron, as what families wouldn't know or care who those characters were.

 

[mickEblu]

So, you're saying a franchise that is already 10 years old (and much older thru the comics), and grossed $2.5B at the Box Office (not even counting being part of the Infinity Saga which made another $4.8B) and has two popular Disney rides isn't already classic and may be out of vogue just 10 years from now?

Ok.

No I think it’s more an issue when you have face characters/ actors. Highly recognizable/ famous actors at that. Not sure that ages well. Rod Serling/ Twlight Zone was already classic. The fact that it’s in Black n White adds to its classic appeal and the theme holds a special place in Americana.

 

[TheCoasterNerd]

Yeah, just like how Tower of Terror is past its prime with Rod Sterling's death and the next generation not knowing who he is or anything about this so-called 'Twilight Zone'!! Time to retheme it!! Way past its 20 year shelf life!!!

Yeah I will say that no one in current high schools or below has ever heard of the Twilight Zone (other than via the parks) or who Rod Sterling is

 

[Professortango1]

Yeah I will say that no one in current high schools or below has ever heard of the Twilight Zone (other than via the parks) or who Rod Sterling is

My 7th graders know it. Mostly from the ride and pop culture references.

 

[TheCoasterNerd]

My 7th graders know it. Mostly from the ride and pop culture references.

Odd. Well as a current high schooler I'll make jokes about it and my friends (most of whom have never been to Disney) have no idea what I'm talking about. Some who have but aren't megafans still don't know much about it. It's really not relevant anymore. Now that isn't to say I want it rethemed in Florida, I really hope that doesn't happen for a while, but I like Mission BO. Its a fun ride with fun music and funny scenes. Only thing I don't love is the facade as it doesn't fit the Hollywoodland aesthetic. Either way, all this to say that Twilight Zone is no longer relevant or interesting to the majority of young people

 

[mickEblu]

Odd. Well as a current high schooler

Thank you for mentioning this. If more people weren’t honest about their age it would lead to less confusing and frustrating conversations.