LittleBuford
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I mean the film’s feel and aesthetics—the world the characters occupy.This ride isn’t set within the events of the film, though.
I mean the film’s feel and aesthetics—the world the characters occupy.This ride isn’t set within the events of the film, though.
It really wasn’t. I’ve noted multiple times that I’m a huge fan of Splash Mountain and that I find the backstory of Tiana’s Bayou Adventure unnecessarily convoluted. Please don’t misrepresent my intentions. I created the poll out of genuine interest in the question I posed, not to make the retheme look better.It was a push poll to counter the convoluted, overstuffed, and nonsensical backstory that was being conjured up and revealed for Tiana at the time.
I don’t fully understand your comment, but to the extent that I do, I would note that Disney has always been about “fables as IP”, freely changing traditional stories to make them more appealing to current audiences.No I'm suggesting a different interpretation of "timeless" that negates the commoditization of "fables as IP" to be copyrighted, interpreted, and justified by current pop culture. Historical fables served a cultural purpose, just not the same one as IP (entertainment and resulting revenue if enough suspend belief enough to enjoy it). Typically fables are unifying, not devisive.
That’s fair!!I mean the film’s feel and aesthetics—the world the characters occupy.
I mean, Tiana was already a strong character and a positive role model. I doubt anyone was saying "Yeah, but what would make her a REALLY good character is if she ran an employee-owned food co-op..."The public doesn’t want this? It’s a trope?
But that wasn’t in the post I was questioning.I mean, Tiana was already a strong character and a positive role model. I doubt anyone was saying "Yeah, but what would make her a REALLY good character is if she ran an employee-owned food co-op..."
I mean, isn't it precisely because Tiana was already a strong character and positive role model that led Imagineers to conclude that she wouldn't just open a business that benefitted her personally, but also organized it to leverage, empower, and benefit her community?I mean, Tiana was already a strong character and a positive role model. I doubt anyone was saying "Yeah, but what would make her a REALLY good character is if she ran an employee-owned food co-op..."
Ever think they might be trying to downplay the thrill aspect of the ride and market it to a demographic who are fans of the female protagonist of The Princess and the Frog?1) In the Jurassic Park world, the corporate executives are often the “bad guys”
2) that’s an awfully boring way to market a thrill ride
But that would negate the narrative that the “entertainment purveyors” are shoving female empowerment stories down the throats of unwilling consumers.Ever think they might be trying to downplay the thrill aspect of the ride and market it to a demographic who are fans of the female protagonist of The Princess and the Frog?
So a Collectivist vs Corporate search for the missing gumbo ingredients somewhere near the saltdome?Ever think they might be trying to downplay the thrill aspect of the ride and market it to a demographic who are fans of the female protagonist of The Princess and the Frog?
But the backstory offered so far about the ride seems to have little to do with the character as we knew her in that film.Ever think they might be trying to downplay the thrill aspect of the ride and market it to a demographic who are fans of the female protagonist of The Princess and the Frog?
The character as we know in her in the film wants to run her own business. The backstory they've come up with for the attraction isn't one I particularly care for, but I don't think it does anything with Tiana's character that isn't consistent with her film portrayal.But the backstory offered so far about the ride seems to have little to do with the character as we knew her in that film.
Holy sexism, Batman.Ever think they might be trying to downplay the thrill aspect of the ride and market it to a demographic who are fans of the female protagonist of The Princess and the Frog?
Read the part that says "All the promotion." Because a theme park attraction and story is more than just one character.What would be the problem with that?
Right. They’re marketing Tiana. To me, this makes sense because that’s who the movie, the ride, and (presumably) the upcoming Disney+ series are about.Read the part that says "All the promotion." Because a theme park attraction and story is more than just one character.
We don't have an adventure, being marketed, we have a princess.
I'd like it to be the movie.Right. They’re marketing Tiana. To me, this makes sense because that’s who the movie, the ride, and (presumably) the upcoming Disney+ series are about.
But it sounds like you’d like it to be something other than this?
With the ride and the series, they seem to be developing PaTF/Tiana into something more than the movie.I'd like it to be the movie.
Yep, they are putting a princess in the princess park, watch the induction of Merida for referenceWith the ride and the series, they seem to be developing PaTF/Tiana into something more than the movie.
Sounds like you and Disney may need to part ways over creative differences. (I'm kidding, of course!)
Maybe the animated series will be a little more along these lines?It would be interesting to create a sequel movie and the sequel be about the creation of Tiana’s Foods, tying the attraction to the movie.
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