News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

retr0gate

retr0gate

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Genuinely do not understand why people are still having the "Tiana shouldn't be a thrill ride!" discussion. Song of the South was a movie of very low stakes. What about that film lends itself to being a thrill ride anymore than Princess and the Frog would? They're both children's films, I'd argue SotS even moreso, but you didn't see anybody complaining about that when Splash was still open. Is PatF more widely known to kids today than SotS was in the late 80s? Sure - but the target demographic for the attraction has never been exclusively children, and I'm not sure how what we're seeing now implies that has changed.

That's not to downplay the effort that went into actually designing the layout of the ride to fit the story of SotS / Splash. I hesitate to call Splash a "thrill ride" because while a lot of emphasis is placed onto the drops, and they are an integral part to the story itself, they play such a small part in the overall dark ride experience. I suppose there is an argument to be made about the thrills surrounding the overall buildup of tension as the ride progresses, but that's a whole other conversation to be had. Regarding the relationship of the ride layout to the story, I fail to see how the pre-existing layout will feel any less purpose built with the new theme - a theme that (at least in terms of scenic design) will remain largely the same. Whether or not those thrill elements will feel shoehorned because of the pre-existing system is yet to be seen.

Also, completely ignoring the controversial aspect, let's just pretend that Song of the South was on the chopping block regardless. If Splash HAD to be replaced with another IP, what would you suggest that would be better than what we're seeing with Princess and the Frog? Half of the movie takes place in the bayou! I challenge anybody to find a better IP to retrofit Splash with minimal changes that isn't Pocahontas (because people seem to LOVE using that excuse as if it somehow would have been the better outcome) - and yes, I am implying that what we're seeing now is still Splash with minimal changes. This isn't like Maelstrom being retrofitted for Frozen Ever After where we saw a complete shift in theme. Almost everything that made Splash Mountain iconic will still be there. I like to believe that Splash Mountain the "place" isn't changing, but rather, its inhabitants.
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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mysto said:
The levee is breached, and we ride the torrent of water down into the 9th ward! No salt pile needed, I'm so much more creative than those guys.
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And we are washed out through the swamp into the lake where a new sinkhole forms dropping us down into the mine.......
 
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harrisonm

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New photo from Twitter, looks like they're starting to remove grass from the rocks (you can see it removed on the right)
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TheMaxRebo

TheMaxRebo

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Definitely feel like the PR for it is misfocused .... I love all the backstory details but that should supplement/enhance ones experience and understanding of the ride now be the main information shared instead of the actual attraction experience ... The "fun" part

I am trying to give them a bit of a pass and assume they are saving a lot of that until the upcoming D23 (though even if that is the case they could just say less now) - but if that comes and goes without sharing a lot of the actual ride and the show scenes and the story and the animatronics (in detail), then I will start to feel more negative/worried
 
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BrerFoxesBayouAdventure

BrerFoxesBayouAdventure

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gianguy said:
Also, completely ignoring the controversial aspect, let's just pretend that Song of the South was on the chopping block regardless. If Splash HAD to be replaced with another IP, what would you suggest that would be better than what we're seeing with Princess and the Frog?
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A Goofy Movie. Have it take place in the swampy area Lester's Possum Park took place in and have Bigfoot appear.
 
Ghost93

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BrerFoxesBayouAdventure said:
A Goofy Movie. Have it take place in the swampy area Lester's Possum Park took place in and have Bigfoot appear.
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I disagree. A Goofy Movie is one of my favorite Disney films (moreso than PatF), but it feels like such a distinct product of the 90s (especially when it comes to the music). I think The Princess and the Frog feels more timeless.
 
Brer Panther

Brer Panther

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gianguy said:
What about that film lends itself to being a thrill ride anymore than Princess and the Frog would? They're both children's films, I'd argue SotS even moreso, but you didn't see anybody complaining about that when Splash was still open.
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That’s a good question. I think it stems from The Princess and the Frog being marketed as a "girls' movie" like all the other Disney Princess movies. So there's more concern about little girls not wanting to get their Tiana dresses wet or something like that.
 
Sir_Cliff

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Brer Panther said:
That’s a good question. I think it stems from The Princess and the Frog being marketed as a "girls' movie" like all the other Disney Princess movies. So there's more concern about little girls not wanting to get their Tiana dresses wet or something like that.
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Have they turned any of their animated features into thrill rides above the level of Seven Dwarfs Mine Train?

I guess Splash was a partial exception as it was based on animated characters (that albeit weren't exactly top of mind for most children), but in the past I think they have tended to make the attractions based on their animated features accessible to the significant amount of children who like the films. The thrill rides have traditionally either been based on original concepts or more 'adult' IPs (e.g. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Guardians of the Galaxy, etc.).

I think that's why people are raising an eyebrow over the Princess and the Frog attraction being one of the MK/DL's main thrill rides.
 
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MerlinTheGoat

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Radiator Springs Racers has a moderate thrill element, perhaps a bit above 7DMT, though no as much as Splash. Studios Paris has Crush's Coaster. I've not ridden it, but i'd imagine the spinning element can get the blood pumping.

Do psychological thrills count? Because the original 1971 version of Snow White's Adventures was pretty intense in that regard.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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Sir_Cliff said:
Have they turned any of their animated features into thrill rides above the level of Seven Dwarfs Mine Train?

I guess Splash was a partial exception as it was based on animated characters (that albeit weren't exactly top of mind for most children), but in the past I think they have tended to make the attractions based on their animated features accessible to the significant amount of children who like the films. The thrill rides have traditionally either been based on original concepts or more 'adult' IPs (e.g. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Guardians of the Galaxy, etc.).

I think that's why people are raising an eyebrow over the Princess and the Frog attraction being one of the MK/DL's main thrill rides.
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MerlinTheGoat said:
Radiator Springs Racers has a moderate thrill element, perhaps a bit above 7DMT, though no as much as Splash. Studios Paris has Crush's Coaster. I've not ridden it, but i'd imagine the spinning element can get the blood pumping.

Do psychological thrills count? Because the original 1971 version of Snow White's Adventures was pretty intense in that regard.
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Yeah, they've done "scary" attractions like the Cinderella Castle Mystery Tour, but the most aggressive rides based on the animated classics [non-Pixar] cannon have been spinning flat rides for the likes of Alice in Wonderland and Little Mermaid.

Crush Coaster is certainly rougher than Seven Dwarfs, and likely wins for physical thrills among Pixar rides with Slinky Dog, RC Racer and RSR after that.

Aladdin makes sense to me as an indoor coaster if they were to build one.
 

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