Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[PiratesMansion]

You re wrong and you lost me with the Mine Train comparison from your last post. I’m out.

No one can definitively disprove that Mine Train doesn't count until we have ridership numbers in front of us, which, as said above, is unlikely to happen.

I'm just saying it seems a convenient scapegoat to say Mine Train doesn't fit the criteria because none of us were there to experience it and therefore it's more easily dismissed.

 

[celluloid]

Have you proven that what you're saying isn't subjective?

Yes. My fact was that Splash Mountain(s) is the longest a theme park attraction has operated in a Disney Park before being rethemed.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Yes. Matterhorn is incredibly popular as a Disneyland classic, but you are kidding yourself if you think it is known across the nation or world as well as mentioning the names Space, Thunder or Splash Mountain.

How do you any of these rides are known across the nation?

You're making things up again.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Yes. My fact was that Splash Mountain(s) is the longest a theme park attraction has operated in a Disney Park before being rethemed.

That is the only thing you have said that I would definitively classify as a fact.

A lot of the other things you have said are 100% subjective.

 

[celluloid]

How do you any of these rides are known across the nation?

You're making things up again.

You are denying logic inference. You think that Matterhorn is as popular as Space, thunder or splash?

There is a Splash Mt in Anaheim, Central FL and Tokyo, and you think Matterhorn is just as or more known?

 

[_caleb]

That is the only thing you have said that I would definitively classify as a fact.

A lot of the other things you have said are 100% subjective.

Yeah, I think it was all the "fact" talk that I reacted to. We all have opinions. If I recall, this resent back-and-forth was instigated by a posts that noted how strong opinions were about the Splash retheme.

 

[Californian Elitist]

That is the only thing you have said that I would definitively classify as a fact.

A lot of the other things you have said are 100% subjective.

Literally the only thing.

 

[Californian Elitist]

You are denying logic inference. You think that Matterhorn is as popular as Space, thunder or splash?

There is a Splash Mt in Anaheim, Central FL and Tokyo, and you think Matterhorn is just as or more known?

You are making things up. How do you even know that several Disney rides are well-known around the entire country, amongst hundreds of millions of people? Prove it to me.

 

[celluloid]

That is the only thing you have said that I would definitively classify as a fact.

A lot of the other things you have said are 100% subjective.

More people have ridden Splash Mountain than Mine Train or the Submarine Voyage. Easy factual evident as it operates in three of the most visited theme.psrks in the world for longer with a superior capacity, and enough years to offset it even if they were same.

It by most definitions more popular, as more people have populated it.

 

[mickEblu]

I'm plenty calm, thanks!

To bring it back to what you were saying with @Californian Elitist, can you definitively prove that Mine Train through Nature's Wonderland DOESN'T fit your criteria? Because other than ridership numbers, which we will likely never have, it seems to fit.


Have you proven that what you're saying isn't subjective? Because just saying that subjective things are facts over and over again does not make them facts.


Well, it's news to me that no one cares about attractions like PPF, IASW, HM, or Pirates, that their soundtracks aren't memorable, or that they are incapable of creating a strong emotional impact because they aren't thrilling.

I'm saying that it seems like moving the goal posts if we were pretty clearly talking about Splash Mountain as one attraction in one park park in one resort, but suddenly now we're talking about how a version of Splash also exists in two other parks (and in one of those parks there's no proof that it's even closing) as if this is suddenly relevant, or that it's realistic to count the ridership statistics of three separate attractions as one thing so as to flimsily try to win an argument.

It just doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Any of it.

Do you have selective memory or something? Thrills/ soundtrack= emotional impact were part of a long list of reasons why I believe Splash is the most beloved ride to go away. So are you able to list a ride that has been rethemed or gone away that has been around as long, has the ridership, possibility to create emotional impact and was as popular as Splash?

Anyway you’re obviously being obtuse as if someone put a gun to your head and asked you the question your choice would be Splash hands down. You know it and I know it. Or maybe not. Your did question if more people rode Mine Train than Splash Mountain.

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

That is the only thing you have said that I would definitively classify as a fact.

A lot of the other things you have said are 100% subjective.

Cough… submarine voyage (1959-1998?)… cough….

 

[celluloid]

Cough… submarine voyage (1959-1998?)… cough….

Last time I checked, the subs were not popular, hence why the cost was not worth it. And needed a Pixar retheme to justify nostalgia. I love the idea and.miss them, but if you want to believe they were more popular than Splash Mountain, oh boy. Factually untrue. No matter.the cause of said popularity be it a part or sum of its parts. Facts are facts with popular equalling ridership. If you want to make up other meanings for popularity, go for it.

Splash, a more than decent capacity attraction is reaching it's swan song time with hour(s) waits.

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

Last time I checked, the subs were not popular, hence why the cost was not worth it.

I feel like we’re moving the goalposts again…

But I also didn’t approve the decision to axe the current Splash theme, just trying to provide context to understand it and accept it.

 

[celluloid]

I feel like we’re moving the goalposts again…

But I also didn’t approve the decision to axe the current Splash theme, just trying to provide context to understand it and accept it.

I get that.

My original quote has both qualifiers of over 30 years and popularity. I left it out most recent post as I presume people that are just providing factitious comments with extra exclamation points know the entirety of my original post.

 

[mickEblu]

Last time I checked, the subs were not popular, hence why the cost was not worth it.

Stop wasting your time. Don’t you realize that even though this conversation really has nothing to do with the Splash retheme itself or why it’s happening certain people have boxed you into the “anti Splash retheme” crowd. They don’t really care about this conversation. They re arguing you and what they believe you stand for. They re attempting to shut down anything that comes from those with different opinions as sport. And they re not good at it.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I agree, stop wasting your time.

 

[celluloid]

I agree, stop wasting your time.

wonderful discourse.

 

[celluloid]

You are making things up. How do you even know that several Disney rides are well-known around the entire country, amongst hundreds of millions of people? Prove it to me.

Do you need proof that Avatar and The Way of Water are more known or attended than Strange World?

Same logic applies to Splash Mountain, Splash Mountain and Splash Mountain than Matterhorn.

You act like it is a wild inference to trust that Splash Mountain in three parks is more populated than Matterhorn in one. It is not that much older to make a ridership difference.

 

[Californian Elitist]

wonderful discourse.

I agree. This has been the most interesting this thread has been in a while.

Do you need proof that Avatar and The Way of Water are more known or attended than Strange World?

Same logic applies to Splash Mountain, Splash Mountain and Splash Mountain than Matterhorn.

You act like it is a wild inference to trust that Splash Mountain in three theme.parmsis more populated than Matterhorn in one. It is not that much older to make a ridership difference.

The former can be proved.

You can't prove that these rides are well known around the country. Also, I was talking about Matterhorn in terns of its popularity in the park. Other parks are irrelevant.

 

[celluloid]

I agree. This has been the most interesting this thread has been in a while.

The former can be proved.

Not really, it could be proved, but I am not asking or expecting you to provide it. The same game can be played that you do.
Now that it is available in Disney plus, maybe more are watching it.
I know more are not, just as a reasonable person can know without the specific numbers that more ride Splash Mountain than ride Matterhorn.
You would say prove it.

You never said single park, that is new to your posts and that seems disingenuous as you said it has not been cloned in other parks. You are the one who mentioned that in your post.

What the heck?

So those are your goalposts. Yankees are not as popular of baseball team merch seller in Boston, but if the Yankees merch is more popular it's more popular. You can't say the other two theme parks don't count.