Tiana's Bayou Adventure: Disneyland Watch & Discussion

[Californian Elitist]

Actually, maybe that's why they're telling a new story instead of drawing from the film: To stage something that is meant to appeal the the age range that will do the drop. I hope so anyway, but without confidence.

The ride will apparently take place in between the film and the new D+ show.

 

[EagleScout610]

If you pay attention to how Splash was advertised vs. TBA. What was the focus in every Splash ad, and the main thing discussed beside the critters? The drop. It was the main draw to the ride and had an air of almost reverence in the ads.

Now look, in comparison, at how Tiana's is being advertised: Tiana, the band, critters, Louis, New Orleans, Mardi Gras. Not once have they mentioned the 50 footer at the end of the ride. I'm guessing the drop will he going from "The culmination of the story and Ultimately escaping evil for a happy home sweet home" to "Woah wasn't that drop into the Bayou fun? Thanks Mama Odie"

Now how they're gonna pull THAT off I have no clue. Again, if they had indicated a threat of ANY sort, be it Facilier or not, instead of a happy happy ride through New Orleans it might be slightly easier.

 

[mickEblu]

If you pay attention to how Splash was advertised vs. TBA. What was the focus in every Splash ad, and the main thing discussed beside the critters? The drop. It was the main draw to the ride and had an air of almost reverence in the ads.

View attachment 685314View attachment 685315
View attachment 685316

Now look, in comparison, at how Tiana's is being advertised: Tiana, the band, critters, Louis, New Orleans, Mardi Gras. Not once have they mentioned the 50 footer at the end of the ride. I'm guessing the drop will he going from "The culmination of the story and Ultimately escaping evil for a happy home sweet home" to "Woah wasn't that drop into the Bayou fun? Thanks Mama Odie"

Now how they're gonna pull THAT off I have no clue.

It is interesting but I think a big part of that has to do with the fact that the Splash and flume aren’t changing so they re just showcasing what is.

 

[Professortango1]

Song of the South was considerably more removed from current cultural relevance when Splash Mountain debuted as opposed to Tiana's Bayou Adventure now. When it opened, It didn't really have a built in base of children adoring a rabbit (or a princess) for them end up feeling obstructed by a drop challenge beyond their scope.

You forget the giant marketing push that happened in the late 80's. I had dozens of books, printed by Disney, sharing the Joel Chandler Harris tales with Disney's iconic animation and character models. I had sing-a-long VHS' that featured the animated segments. I had cassette tapes and plushies. In the year leading up to Splash's opening I went from knowing nothing about the film to being a SotS guru because of Disney's synergy push. It worked. Splash is my favourite Disney attraction. I love the music and the characters. I think the film is terribly dull, but I adore the ride. And it is 100% due to the efforts Disney made in making kids like me hunger for Brer Rabbit and his pals.

 

[Professortango1]

Now look, in comparison, at how Tiana's is being advertised: Tiana, the band, critters, Louis, New Orleans, Mardi Gras. Not once have they mentioned the 50 footer at the end of the ride. I'm guessing the drop will he going from "The culmination of the story and Ultimately escaping evil for a happy home sweet home" to "Woah wasn't that drop into the Bayou fun? Thanks Mama Odie"

Now how they're gonna pull THAT off I have no clue.Again, if they had indicated a threat of ANY sort, be it Facilier or not, instead of a happy happy ride through New Orleans it might be slightly easier.

Its one of the big problems I have with Mission BO. The drop tower ride was designed to be scary and build anticipation. The ride used to build to the drop finale throughout, giving you a sense of story as you rode. Now it is one note and they have tried so hard to make the ride designed for fear to be an action/adventure/party ride. It doesn't work for me.

Its almost as if rides were designed with specific features and moments on purpose and to try and just swap it out while keeping the structure the same is a recipe for messy and confusing storytelling. Nah! Disney wouldn't be THAT unaware or uncaring about craft!

 

[Rich T]

It is interesting but I think a big part of that has to do with the fact that the Splash and flume aren’t changing so they re just showcasing what is.

I’m just smiling, eating popcorn and waiting to see if Disney tries to palm this off on the GP as an entirely new ride. Any mass market ad with a photo of the drop is a dead giveaway that it’s Splash Mtn.

 

[Rich T]

Its one of the big problems I have with Mission BO. The drop tower ride was designed to be scary and build anticipation. The ride used to build to the drop finale throughout, giving you a sense of story as you rode. Now it is one note and they have tried so hard to make the ride designed for fear to be an action/adventure/party ride. It doesn't work for me.

It’s almost as if rides were designed with specific features and moments on purpose and to try and just swap it out while keeping the structure the same is a recipe for messy and confusing storytelling. Nah! Disney wouldn't be THAT unaware or uncaring about craft!

For me, DCA’s ToT never told its story well enough to work. It was always about the fun of the drops. Florida’s original gets it just right with its pacing.

Awful facade aside, I love MBO. It’s one of the most fun rides on the planet. Airtime, airtime, airtime, all set to party music and a silly story that functions far better than the no-one-cares-why-is-this-preshow-so-long scenario Imagineering barfed up for Cosmic Rewind.

To each his own, but MBO, for me, uses that drop shaft belt to its full capabilities, with thrilling results.

 

[Professortango1]

For me, DCA’s ToT never told its story well enough to work. It was always about the fun of the drops. Florida’s original gets it just right with its pacing.

Awful facade aside, I love MBO. It’s one of the most fun rides on the planet. Airtime, airtime, airtime, all set to party music and a silly story that functions far better than the no-one-cares-why-is-this-preshow-so-long scenario Imagineering barfed up for Cosmic Rewind.

To each his own, but MBO, for me, uses that drop shaft belt to its full capabilities, with thrilling results.

And for me, DCA's TOT was my favourite version of the attraction. I like Florida's and treasured it from my WDW trips, but after riding DCA's for years, I was shocked to revisit it and see how slow and clunky theirs was and how the storytelling wasn't as tight. DCA's Tower was my all time favourite attraction due the to the storytelling and pacing. Even despite the mediocre façade and queue.

Mission BO is just a mess for me. Cheaply redone sets that remind me of local escape rooms. A plot that makes no sense. A ride which is one-note. Dialogue you can't hear. It reminds me of a discount version of Transformers the Ride. Like if USO made Transformers first and this was USH's streamlined answer to it.

Its why I have no faith in TBA. Disney will be just as careless with their retheme and the general pop will eat it up because its louder, more familiar, and packed with enough stimulus to keep people off their phones for a minute. It won't be better, but it will celebrated. And Disney's stranglehold on quality theme park experiences continues to loosen.

 

[BubbaisSleep]

And for me, DCA's TOT was my favourite version of the attraction. I like Florida's and treasured it from my WDW trips, but after riding DCA's for years, I was shocked to revisit it and see how slow and clunky theirs was and how the storytelling wasn't as tight. DCA's Tower was my all time favourite attraction due the to the storytelling and pacing. Even despite the mediocre façade and queue.

I have to agree & had a similar experience once I took my first ride 2 years after DCA’s closed. Florida’s could use an update to build suspense like the DCA version did. It’s been pretty clunky for a while. At DCA, I do miss that second of silence where you see the ghost in the elevator drop & you know you’re about to next. It was one of my favorite suspenseful moments in any Disney ride & great storytelling. I’m hoping Scarlet’s movie will do great so it can bring some life back into this amazing attraction.

 

[Rich T]

And for me, DCA's TOT was my favourite version of the attraction. I like Florida's and treasured it from my WDW trips, but after riding DCA's for years, I was shocked to revisit it and see how slow and clunky theirs was and how the storytelling wasn't as tight. DCA's Tower was my all time favourite attraction due the to the storytelling and pacing. Even despite the mediocre façade and queue.

Mission BO is just a mess for me. Cheaply redone sets that remind me of local escape rooms. A plot that makes no sense. A ride which is one-note. Dialogue you can't hear. It reminds me of a discount version of Transformers the Ride. Like if USO made Transformers first and this was USH's streamlined answer to it.

Its why I have no faith in TBA. Disney will be just as careless with their retheme and the general pop will eat it up because its louder, more familiar, and packed with enough stimulus to keep people off their phones for a minute. It won't be better, but it will celebrated. And Disney's stranglehold on quality theme park experiences continues to loosen.

Fair enough; I absolutely can see how MBO can be a disappointment, especially if DCA’s ToT really worked for you (The part I really enjoyed about DCA ToT was the way the first drop happened AS the doors were still closing. Got me every time!)

MBO might be a one-note ride, but it’s a wonderful, wonderful note generously served. The Boiler Room still temporarily kills the excitement just as it did/does on every ToT, though.

 

[mickEblu]

Fair enough; I absolutely can see how MBO can be a disappointment, especially if DCA’s ToT really worked for you (The part I really enjoyed about DCA ToT was the way the first drop happened AS the doors were still closing. Got me every time!)

MBO might be a one-note ride, but it’s a wonderful, wonderful note generously served. The Boiler Room still temporarily kills the excitement just as it did/does on every ToT, though.

Apart from the obvious fact that I miss the ride/ theme I also really miss the music playing outside the hotel and the safety spiel, particularly the Spanish version.

 

[mickEblu]

My sister brought me back this magnet from Paris a couple months ago (as well as three of those Starbucks Been There Parks Mugs) which is cool because you never really see merch with the DCA/ Paris version of TOT.

 

[TwilightZone]

DCA's tower of terror was a ride so good that it gave me the final push to join the fourms, thus my username. The replacement into Mission Breakout I still consider one of Disney's worst decisions. Sure DCA's tower may have not been as good as WDW's, but it had a lot of charm and longevity that Mission Breakout is missing.

Any of the other Avengers Campus attractions can easily be renovated once the MCU ends or gets rebooted, I can't see how one could rework Mission Breakout in the future without having to start from scratch.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

For me, DCA’s ToT never told its story well enough to work. It was always about the fun of the drops. Florida’s original gets it just right with its pacing.

Awful facade aside, I love MBO. It’s one of the most fun rides on the planet. Airtime, airtime, airtime, all set to party music and a silly story that functions far better than the no-one-cares-why-is-this-preshow-so-long scenario Imagineering barfed up for Cosmic Rewind.

To each his own, but MBO, for me, uses that drop shaft belt to its full capabilities, with thrilling results.

I feel this way too, when we rode it in Paris after experience MB it was a huge let down, the pacing was so slow. Slowly rise one story, sit for 10 seconds, slowly rise another story, sit for 10 seconds… the majority of the ride is sitting watching scenes, I agree ToT is a better story but it’s only a few seconds of excitement, MB is non stop excitement and fun from the second the doors close.

I love this storytelling in omnimover style rides but on a thrill ride system like this I think MB better utilizes it.

 

[Practical Pig]

You forget the giant marketing push that happened in the late 80's. I had dozens of books, printed by Disney, sharing the Joel Chandler Harris tales with Disney's iconic animation and character models. I had sing-a-long VHS' that featured the animated segments. I had cassette tapes and plushies. In the year leading up to Splash's opening I went from knowing nothing about the film to being a SotS guru because of Disney's synergy push. It worked. Splash is my favourite Disney attraction. I love the music and the characters. I think the film is terribly dull, but I adore the ride. And it is 100% due to the efforts Disney made in making kids like me hunger for Brer Rabbit and his pals.

Sure. But you seem to be a super-fan by your description. The general public most likely missed most of that. I come from a general public perspective who only entered Disney fandom relatively late in life, and I saw none of that. But I respect your experience.

 

[Professortango1]

I feel this way too, when we rode it in Paris after experience MB it was a huge let down, the pacing was so slow. Slowly rise one story, sit for 10 seconds, slowly rise another story, sit for 10 seconds… the majority of the ride is sitting watching scenes, I agree ToT is a better story but it’s only a few seconds of excitement, MB is non stop excitement and fun from the second the doors close.

I love this storytelling in omnimover style rides but on a thrill ride system like this I think MB better utilizes it.

I found the ghost story to be fun, so I had fun from the moments the doors closed with TOT as well. The lateral move of the elevator, the mirror effect, the ghost hallway vanishing away leading to a drop scare. That was all fun for me. The new ride is physical thrills from the moment the doors close, but, as I said, it gets old really quickly for me. With the constant motion and inaudible dialogue, what used to be a 2 minute journey with three increasingly intense sequences is now 2 minutes of bouncing to music. There's nothing to break it up. Its like making a cake out of pure frosting. Sure, frosting might be my favourite part of the cake, but if it was ONLY frosting, I'm not going to enjoy it as much as a well made cake.

Its the same reason I would ride Silver Bullet and Ghostrider over Xcellerator. Drops/launches are fun, but its a bit too simple and one-note for me.

 

[mickEblu]

I found the ghost story to be fun, so I had fun from the moments the doors closed with TOT as well. The lateral move of the elevator, the mirror effect, the ghost hallway vanishing away leading to a drop scare. That was all fun for me. The new ride is physical thrills from the moment the doors close, but, as I said, it gets old really quickly for me. With the constant motion and inaudible dialogue, what used to be a 2 minute journey with three increasingly intense sequences is now 2 minutes of bouncing to music. There's nothing to break it up. Its like making a cake out of pure frosting. Sure, frosting might be my favourite part of the cake, but if it was ONLY frosting, I'm not going to enjoy it as much as a well made cake.

Its the same reason I would ride Silver Bullet and Ghostrider over Xcellerator. Drops/launches are fun, but its a bit too simple and one-note for me.

Frosting is typically my least favorite part of the cake so your analogy is fitting.

 

[Professortango1]

Sure. But you seem to be a super-fan by your description. The general public most likely missed most of that. I come from a general public perspective who only entered Disney fandom relatively late in life, and I saw none of that. But I respect your experience.

I mean, I was in preschool when the ride opened, so I wouldn't color myself as a superfan of anything other than dinosaurs and play-dough at that time. I loved the train and Splash's construction shut down the train, so that was a mark against it at the time. But the synergy push by Disney won me over and I became a superfan of the stories quickly.

 

[EagleScout610]

To me it reads as they're gonna market the drop as less of "Heart stopping, thrilling, adrenaline rush filled plunge that you take to escape from Br'er Fox who's about to skin Br'er Rabbit for dinner", and more of "Oh that silly Mama Odie just sent us on a fun drop into the briar patch swamp" to make it more marketable to children

 

[EagleScout610]

Merry final Christmas old friend.