MK Tiana’s Bayou Adventure SPOILER Thread

mickEblu

mickEblu

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WondersOfLife said:
I'll be one of those who dismisses Dr. Facilier being a scrapped villain.... He is way too popular of a villain to be pushed to the sides.

He has a good feature in the Cirque du Soleil show during the villains laugh segment... Literally still having his own entire "Friends on the Other Side" musical number in the Hocus Pocus Villains Spelltacular...

Also, what about the literal Dr. Facilier float with stilt walkers in the Oogie Boogie Bash... 2024 mind you.



Dr. F is doing just fine.
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It’s easy to scrap a float from a parade or eliminate a walk around character. Not so much to eliminate a character and their presence from an attraction and its story. It was 2020. They were scared. I think if they were designing the attraction today Facilier would have been included. I think you at least have to give WDI the benefit of the doubt and trust that they wouldn’t have left a fan favorite villain off the attraction unless they felt they had no choice or were told they had no choice by the powers that be.
 
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Fox&Hound

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Professortango1 said:
No, its not racist to have a person of color as a villain. But his entire character is a racial stereotype. The evil voodoo man who works with dark spirits/demons to try and attack those in power. This depiction of "voodoo" isn't based on anything realistic nor does it resemble the religion practiced by people in the region. This depiction rather is what white writers created to sensationalize fears of Black cultures. They were depicted as hedonistic savages who worked with the devil and performed human sacrifices. This way white people could feed justified in their fear of them, as well as give them the ability to attack Black Americans because they were obviously "harmful" and "dangerous." Lovecraft is pretty universally regarded as problematic and racist. And is so because of depictions like this.

It would be like having a Jewish villain who was inhuman and hoarding all the town's riches and working with a secret order to control the governments of the neighboring kingdoms and only cared for greed and lies.
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Thank you for this information. That makes sense. My post was not meant to be insensitive
 
RSoxNo1

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Show quality on this attraction isn't great. Splash Mountain always had a "mountain" of show quality issues as well, but the Mama Odie figures aren't working correctly and its rare that all of the Tiana and Louis figures are working either. On 3 rides earlier this month I never saw Juju as I floated past. I did see him from a distance once.

The ride is technologically superior to Splash Mountain and I'd argue that after the double drop, its probably a better attraction, but the AAs need to be working.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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RSoxNo1 said:
Show quality on this attraction isn't great. Splash Mountain always had a "mountain" of show quality issues as well, but the Mama Odie figures aren't working correctly and its rare that all of the Tiana and Louis figures are working either. On 3 rides earlier this month I never saw Juju as I floated past. I did see him from a distance once.

The ride is technologically superior to Splash Mountain and I'd argue that after the double drop, its probably a better attraction, but the AAs need to be working.
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AFTER the double drop!? So the tunnel of nothingness and the non event lifthill really do it for you?
 
Tha Realest

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RSoxNo1 said:
The ride is technologically superior to Splash Mountain
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The “ride” is the same, but it is far less reliable, so the “superior” tech seems to be counterproductive in terms of, you know, permitting guests to experience the attraction. The screens already appear to be glitching and the comparatively less AAs also seem broken an awful lot.
RSoxNo1 said:
and I'd argue that after the double drop, its probably a better attraction, but the AAs need to be working.
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One should hope! They drastically reduced the number of AAs, and those that they do have break down at an inexcusable rate.
 
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Tha Realest said:
The “ride” is the same, but it is far less reliable, so the “superior” tech seems to be counterproductive in terms of, you know, permitting guests to experience the attraction. The screens already appear to be glitching and the comparatively less AAs also seem broken an awful lot.

One should hope! They drastically reduced the number of AAs, and those that they do have break down at an inexcusable rate.
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Yup. There's nothing superior about Tiana's Bayou Adventure. "New" but not superior. Can't even say it's "advanced" because it didn't really advance anything. It's such a step backwards.
 
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Trauma

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RSoxNo1 said:
Show quality on this attraction isn't great. Splash Mountain always had a "mountain" of show quality issues as well, but the Mama Odie figures aren't working correctly and its rare that all of the Tiana and Louis figures are working either. On 3 rides earlier this month I never saw Juju as I floated past. I did see him from a distance once.

The ride is technologically superior to Splash Mountain and I'd argue that after the double drop, it’s probably a better attraction, but the AAs need to be working.
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After riding a few times last week I can safely say there is not 1 single second of this ride that is “superior” or “better” than Splash.

This is a complete failure from front to back.

That would be if the ride worked properly.

However in my 4 rides I did not get a single ride thru where all the animatronics where working.

So in my eyes it’s not only a complete failure but a massive embarrassment. People should be getting fired over this.
 
EagleScout610

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RSoxNo1 said:
The ride is technologically superior to Splash Mountain and I'd argue that after the double drop, its probably a better attraction, but the AAs need to be working.
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Sorry, 19 figures, yes I'm counting the beehives and weasels because they were still animated, being replaced by 4 bobblehead-level frogs and four screens is in no way a "better attraction".

Aside from the figures there was also more water effects (the turtles all bounced on geysers, the jumping water, a water fountain of overflowing pots and pans on the left), ans lighting effects (fire in Brer Fox’s cave, the Lightning strikes behind the vultures).

*Edit, 23 figures. I miscounted. And thats not including Brer Fox’s shadow in the cave or Brer Bear’s "briar patch?

Bee Cave
  • Spinning hives (6)
  • Brer Bear
  • Brer Fox
  • Brer Rabbit
Laughin’ Place
  • Turtles (2)
  • Frogs (2)
  • Weasels (5)

Burrow Lament/Big Drop
  • Brer Rabbit
  • Brer Fox
  • Vultures (2)
  • Brer Rabbit
 
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Brer Oswald

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Trauma said:
After riding a few times last week I can safely say there is not 1 single second of this ride that is “superior” or “better” than Splash.

This is a complete failure from front to back.

That would be if the ride worked properly.

However in my 4 rides I did not get a single ride thru where all the animatronics where working.

So in my eyes it’s not only a complete failure but a massive embarrassment. People should be getting fired over this.
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I rode it 3 times with virtually no issues (barring some problems with the Mama Odie animatronics, but that seems to be true 90% of the time). I was bored out of my mind, especially on the second and third rides. There’s just nothing to talk about. If the 9 A1000 animatronics are “technologically superior”, I hardly noticed with how fast you move by them. What was wrong with the dozens of geese, chickens, frogs, rabbits, gators, etc? They all moved fluidly enough (when the ride was still getting annual maintenance). Outside of the former Laughing Place, you can’t even say the lighting is better because you’re always in the dark. I just don’t understand the glazing for a ride that has no substance to it.
 
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Trauma

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Brer Oswald said:
I rode it 3 times with virtually no issues (barring some problems with the Mama Odie animatronics, but that seems to be true 90% of the time). I was bored out of my mind, especially on the second and third rides. There’s just nothing to talk about. If the 9 A1000 animatronics are “technologically superior”, I hardly noticed with how fast you move by them. What was wrong with the dozens of geese, chickens, frogs, rabbits, gators, etc? They all moved fluidly enough (when the ride was still getting annual maintenance). Outside of the former Laughing Place, you can’t even say the lighting is better because you’re always in the dark. I just don’t understand the glazing for a ride that has no substance to it.
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I am not a very creative person. When I ride Disney rides I’m usually blown away at the things they think of.

When I rode TBA I was actually thinking that I could have done better.

I have no idea how such a soulless ride was created.

I think they should start looking at ways to re-do the ride and at least make it fun. Maybe even do something crazy like add some tension to the lift hill.

It has to be fixed. You can’t really have one of the mountains be D ticket quality.
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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Trauma said:
I am not a very creative person. When I ride Disney rides I’m usually blown away at the things they think of.

When I rode TBA I was actually thinking that I could have done better.

I have no idea how such a soulless ride was created.

I think they should start looking at ways to re-do the ride and at least make it fun. Maybe even do something crazy like add some tension to the lift hill.

It has to be fixed. You can’t really have one of the mountains be D ticket quality.
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You’re not thinking big enough. Plot A is how a young woman in 1920’s New Orleans not only realizes her dream of opening her own restaurant, but also converting an old salt mine as part of her co-op agribusiness, and Plot B is how someone in the finance department can also improve upon an iconic attraction!
 
RSoxNo1

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Brer Panther said:
My apologies to @RSoxNo1, but no, the second half of this ride is not superior to Splash Mountain's. The ugly CGI animation alone prevents it from being so.

Just because some of the animatronics in this ride are fancy A100s doesn't make it a better attraction.
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I'll put the caveat out there that the Mama Odie figures (and really all the other figures) need to be working as well.

With that said, I don't think my statement is ridiculous, but surely I can't imagine everyone is going to agree with me. I still maintain that the best thing Tiana's Bayou Adventure has going for it is the track layout from Splash Mountain. I don't think they cheaped out on the overhaul, but if the AA's don't work than it's hard to defend it.

My position here comes from a few things. I like the frogs, I think there's a lot of life in that sequence and I think the finale is strong.
 

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