This could be bad for Disney folks

ChrisFL

Premium Member
What I don't understand is the perspective that a new ride elsewhere is bad for Disney. Personally, even as a shareholder I would love to see Universal take some of Disney's market share in Orlando because as a fan of both theme parks, I welcome the prospect of "Theme Park Wars". We thought we were going to have this when Islands of Adventure opened, however even Spiderman couldn't hurt Disney's stranglehold on attendance. If something (see: Potter, Harry) can result in back and forth one upmanship between the two companies, I will be thrilled.

I welcome Universal's partial owner to buy the Sea World parks, I welcome the success of the Harry Potter Land, and I welcome Rip, Ride and Rockit. Anything that continues to raise the bar is good for the guests.

Exactly :cool:
 

hemloc

Member
It's just you.

Perhaps they did! :shrug:

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Get over it.. It's old news that doesn't need to be reposted, not to mention it has nothing to do with WDW:fork:...
 

DisneyMusician2

Well-Known Member
Disney does not need to "respond" or "counter" anything another park does. And I'm sure management feels the same way.

Nothing about this ride is revolutionary, or offers an experience that can't necessarily be found at Disney Parks.

When someone finds something that is truly new to the industry and just blows away all that came before it, Disney will have to "respond". So far, neither this or Potterland plans show anything that aside from the base theming could not be found anywhere else in the country from a ride building and designing perspective.

.....oh, and I guess I missed it 5 months ago, so this is pretty interesting to me.....please find another thread if its not interesting to you....:wave:
 

CThaddeus

New Member
By the way, a survey was sent out for music choices for the coaster, and they're amazing. A lot of rock, pop, rap, and even some country. A very wide range of songs.

Now if only they would do this with Rock n' Rollercoaster. Having to put up with Aerosmith for any length of time is WAY too much for me. Great coaster, terrible preshow and on-board audio.
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
Get over it.. It's old news that doesn't need to be reposted, not to mention it has nothing to do with WDW:fork:...

I would have assumed that what their major competitor is doing to claw back some market share, is everything to do with Disney. And the more Universal adds the more it becomes attractive to people keen for something different.

Now trot on.


As for the questionnaire, I was sent a copy, It struck me that some natural choices were missing as options, then I realised that the featured artists all seem to be associated with Universal records in some way. Another bit brand tie in.

Personally I voted for a broad range of artists, Metallica to Megadeath, and against all that pop drivel an (c)rap, though I would be amused at how a Marc Antony track would fit a high speed coaster
 

coasterphil

Well-Known Member
Disney does not need to "respond" or "counter" anything another park does. And I'm sure management feels the same way.
Absolutely not. Both parks study each other's moves extremely closely and react/respond to them. Disney isn't arrogant enough to think they can completely ignore what's going on down the road.

Nothing about this ride is revolutionary, or offers an experience that can't necessarily be found at Disney Parks.
Really? Disney has a ride that offers the same one-of-a-kind ride maneuvers, allows you to choose your own soundtrack, and tapes the entire experience for you to bring home and edit into an original music video? Please tell me where that is, because I must have missed it during all my visits.

When someone finds something that is truly new to the industry and just blows away all that came before it, Disney will have to "respond". So far, neither this or Potterland plans show anything that aside from the base theming could not be found anywhere else in the country from a ride building and designing perspective.
While not officially announced, it's widely accepted that there will be a highly immersive Kuka arm attraction in the new Potter area of the park which will be a brand new experience in the industry. That technology is something Disney desperately wanted as a ride in their parks(if you believe the rumors, which I do). That alone would give Universal something that Disney can't match. Hopefully Universal won't squander their oppurtunity to make a real push for big attendence numbers like they did by adding nothing to their parks for years once IOA opened.
 

DisneyMusician2

Well-Known Member
I can concede to inside information. I am just going on what I have seen from the company developments over the years.

If someone has inside info on a project, then I stand corrected.

But is it really anyone's opinion that this ride will be a large draw from Disney to Universal?

The Harry Potter area may be, but if I were Disney, I wouldn't be premature and act before I observed the impact on the parks.
 

khelinski

New Member
This attraction will not hurt Disney one bit, since both parks have different audiences.

For the most part, Disney attracts younger families - whereas, Universal attracts the older crowd of families. Yes, you still have quantities of little kiddies around. But it's not as much as Disney's amount. Universal is geared mostly toward teens - and this attraction will attract teens and thrill-seekers.

Now, Harry Potter, on the other hand, is a major threat to Disney. And I will bet you a lot of money - majority of die hard Disney buffs, whom never has been to the Universal park, will venture to the enemy when Universal unveils that beast! Most Disney fans are Harry Potter fans. There maybe a little slack from some folks that still suggests Harry Potter is words from the devil (which is why I think, Disney was a little reluctant when Harry Potter was a bidding war between various parks)! But I doubt it will decline the much-needed business Universal desperately needs.

Short term, Universal will kick some butt. But long term – as history suggests people will visit Universal to see the new craze – and then head back to Disney. Problem with Universal – they always try to bring the new flavor of the month, without putting effort into making it timeless, which is what makes Disney so special to everyone.

Either or, should be interesting to see...
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
:D:D:D


And what about Potterland?:lookaroun:drevil:
Scared them? Nah. Kicked them into gear? Yep.

Going back to an old discussion, it's a shame USF/IOA wasn`t the immeidiate success they hoped for and which Disney feared. They (Disney) know they`re not under threat attendence wise, but they also know they can`t be seen to be complacent - again - or worse loose some key markets. Thankfully the past year has been a bit of a wakeup call. I just hope they don`t fall now at the final hurdle due to more idiotic (mis) management.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
Scared them? Nah. Kicked them into gear? Yep.

Going back to an old discussion, it's a shame USF/IOA wasn`t the immeidiate success they hoped for and which Disney feared. They (Disney) know they`re not under threat attendence wise, but they also know they can`t be seen to be complacent - again - or worse loose some key markets. Thankfully the past year has been a bit of a wakeup call. I just hope they don`t fall now at the final hurdle due to more idiotic (mis) management.
Most excellent,Martin.:wave:

Your posts often leave a nice effect.:D:lol:
 

DisneyYorkian74

Active Member
Opening up a plain thrill coaster that only appeals to a limited demographic is never a good way to get people through the gates.

It'll probably have a limited (if any) effect on attendance.
 

DizneyPryncess

Well-Known Member
It does look like a cool ride - although I am not into big thrill rides. I don't think Disney needs to compete with it though, because they do something different than Universal in general. I love Disney World, because I love Disney stuff. And it's themed after Disney stuff. It feels like a magical place.

Universal feels like a fun theme park. I could go once in a while and be fine. I have to go to Disney more often or I miss it. Until Universal can make more magic, they won't rival Disney in attendance.
 

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