Politics Theme Park Reopening Guidelines to be released 10/20/20

[Disney Irish]

"Dr. Erica Pan, California’s public health officer, said San Francisco benefited from the new health equity metric, which requires the positivity rates in the most disadvantaged communities to be within a certain percentage of the countywide average."

"At 0.8%, the positivity rate in San Francisco is one of the lowest in California. The city is also testing more of its residents per-capita than any other jurisdiction in the state. That allowed it to further reduce its case rate, using a modifier in the state’s calculation, from 2.5/100K to 1.5/100K, according to data from CDPH."

"Theme parks present a higher-risk environment than a live sporting event, Ghaly said, citing research commissioned by the state, to explain the looser restrictions on live sports."

Coronavirus: San Francisco enters least-restrictive tier in California’s reopening system

San Francisco on Tuesday became the first major jurisdiction in California to advance into the state’s least-restrictive yellow reopening tier, paving the way for looser restrictions on busin…

www.mercurynews.com

Yep, its not a secret formula or some political game. Its community coming together helping each other out and helping the less fortunate.

Orange County and LA County could do the same thing. In fact LA County is taking the State up on its offer to help in this regard. Orange County however hasn't, why not?

 

[lazyboy97o]

"Theme parks present a higher-risk environment than a live sporting event, Ghaly said, citing research commissioned by the state, to explain the looser restrictions on live sports."

This research, if it has not yet been, should be released. The public has a right to know the methodology involved. It'll also be key to any legal challenge.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Take a look at those SF numbers again. The real number is 2.5. They tested a crap ton so got “adjusted” to 1.5. So why did Newsom bless them with yellow tier when guidelines specifically say “less than one”? SF and it’s <1 million population isn’t that much better at COVID control, they’re just better at Newsom politics.

You guys sound ridiculous with these Newsom conspiracy theories. The question you should be asking is why can't the people and leaders of Orange County take responsibility for reducing the spread of Covid in order to meet the state's guidelines to reopen Disneyland. It's not easy to do, but it isn't impossible.

 

[Jefro]

Sometimes, there is a lot of thread, and it's hard to get a summary on what's going on with the rehashing of old arguments in a new place.

For those wondering how the new opening guidelines affect opening disneyland, I would recommend this,

Disneyland may not be allowed to reopen in 2020, here's why - The Points Guy

While Disney World has been open for months, Disneyland may not be allowed at all this year. Here's why.

thepointsguy.com

Dec 1st would be the absolute minimum - anyone else got a better stack of data that would move it before then (outside lawsuits)?

We are just on the cusp of cancelling our December 14-18th plans to DL and shifting our vaca away from the area. So more than just curiosity here. Having a AP that might end up active is the only real holding us back.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You guys sound ridiculous with these Newsom conspiracy theories. The question you should be asking is why can't the people and leaders of in Orange County take responsibility for reducing the spread of Covid in order to meet the state's guidelines to reopen Disneyland. It's not easy to do, but it isn't impossible.

Because covy is a harmless bacteria.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Because covy is a harmless bacteria.

It's basically the flu.

 

[Scoots71]

Sometimes, there is a lot of thread, and it's hard to get a summary on what's going on with the rehashing of old arguments in a new place.

For those wondering how the new opening guidelines affect opening disneyland, I would recommend this,

Disneyland may not be allowed to reopen in 2020, here's why - The Points Guy

While Disney World has been open for months, Disneyland may not be allowed at all this year. Here's why.

thepointsguy.com

Dec 1st would be the absolute minimum - anyone else got a better stack of data that would move it before then (outside lawsuits)?

We are just on the cusp of cancelling our December 14-18th plans to DL and shifting our vaca away from the area. So more than just curiosity here. Having a AP that might end up active is the only real holding us back.

You might as well go ahead and cancel. It's a 3 week minimum at the Orange level before they can move down to Yellow, and Orange County is still a couple of weeks away (even in the best case scenario) from getting down to Orange level.

 

[Gottalovepluto]

Sometimes, there is a lot of thread, and it's hard to get a summary on what's going on with the rehashing of old arguments in a new place.

For those wondering how the new opening guidelines affect opening disneyland, I would recommend this,

Disneyland may not be allowed to reopen in 2020, here's why - The Points Guy

While Disney World has been open for months, Disneyland may not be allowed at all this year. Here's why.

thepointsguy.com

Dec 1st would be the absolute minimum - anyone else got a better stack of data that would move it before then (outside lawsuits)?

We are just on the cusp of cancelling our December 14-18th plans to DL and shifting our vaca away from the area. So more than just curiosity here. Having a AP that might end up active is the only real holding us back.

With Halloween + Thanksgiving between now and your trip no way is OC yellow by mid-Dec.

 

[Travel Junkie]

You guys sound ridiculous with these Newsom conspiracy theories. The question you should be asking is why can't the people and leaders of Orange County take responsibility for reducing the spread of Covid in order to meet the state's guidelines to reopen Disneyland. It's not easy to do, but it isn't impossible.

The conspiracy theories are pretty ridiculous.

The state clearly went over their reasoning. I'm not saying I agree with them and they should go into more detail. However, there is no conspiracy. Newsom doesn't hate Orange County (which makes no sense because theme parks are all over the state) and he doesn't hate theme parks. He is simply listening to people telling him they are at a higher risk than other activities.

 

[MisterPenguin]

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

It's all so stupid. Bending the rules by altering operations to take out the rides? Oy.

 

[PostScott]

It's only a matter of time before all the parks start a food festival. But heck, would anyone even go to a six flags food festival?

 

[FruitSaladAndApplePie]

Because covy is a harmless bacteria.

It's basically the flu.

Say that to the 200,000 dead.

 

[Jiggsawpuzzle35]

It's only a matter of time before all the parks start a food festival. But heck, would anyone even go to a six flags food festival?

The food at Disneyland is awful compared to the other theme parks around Southern California. I’m sure Six Flags isn’t that bad. I hope Disneyland starts to sell Plaza Inn Fried Chicken.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Say that to the 200,000 dead.

They were both being sarcastic, mocking the deniers.

 

[TP2000]

"Dr. Erica Pan, California’s public health officer, said San Francisco benefited from the new health equity metric, which requires the positivity rates in the most disadvantaged communities to be within a certain percentage of the countywide average."

"At 0.8%, the positivity rate in San Francisco is one of the lowest in California. The city is also testing more of its residents per-capita than any other jurisdiction in the state. That allowed it to further reduce its case rate, using a modifier in the state’s calculation, from 2.5/100K to 1.5/100K, according to data from CDPH."

Coronavirus: San Francisco enters least-restrictive tier in California’s reopening system

San Francisco on Tuesday became the first major jurisdiction in California to advance into the state’s least-restrictive yellow reopening tier, paving the way for looser restrictions on busin…

www.mercurynews.com

I get it that San Francisco got extra credit for saving the whales and a gold star for Nancy Pelosi's beautiful hairdo, so the actual scientific transmission rate of 2.5 was graded on a curve and given a San Francisco score of 1.5

But that doesn't explain how they turned the revised 1.5 score into a 0.9 score that is required for the Yellow Tier.

The Yellow Tier was always stated as needing to be "Less Than One", and that language is still clearly stated on the state website that San Francisco was graded by. 1.5 is more than 1.0

0.9 is less than 1.0, what am I missing there? Besides saving the whales, of course.

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[Darkbeer1]

 

[Mouse Trap]

California Theme Parks Officials Call Suing a “Viable Option” Over Gov. Newsom’s Reopening Guidelines

A group of officials from California's major theme parks gathered for a press conference to once again voice outrage over the state's reopening guidelines.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Buckle up!

 

[TP2000]

Oh, this is gonna be good! I had to stop the video 30 seconds in when Ken Potrock kept adjusting his shirt and checking his profile as he sits in his den at home.

The Legoland guy already wins for branding by wearing a sharp white shirt and sport coat in front of a neutral but tastefully branded background.

But now that I got my silly snark out of the way, I'm going to sit and watch this seriously. Thank you for posting it!

 

[PostScott]

The food at Disneyland is awful compared to the other theme parks around Southern California. I’m sure Six Flags isn’t that bad. I hope Disneyland starts to sell Plaza Inn Fried Chicken.

I'd take that crappy Pizza Planet pizza any day over Magic Mountain food.