Politics Theme Park Reopening Guidelines to be released 10/20/20

[Disney Irish]

Those are the Northern California counties that have a few thousand people versus the 50,000 coyotes in each county.

Modoc County is not the point of reference that Orange County and Los Angeles County can use.

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Actually San Francisco County is now in Yellow too, which is rather large and diverse.

 

[cmwade77]

I think they should get the 18 wheelers queued up for the move to Texas , I bet they would be able to open sooner in Austin than Anaheim

Not Austin, that city is keeping everything closed, go with Houston, Dallas or pretty much any other city in Texas.

 

[TP2000]

Meanwhile we just moved back into the purple tier in Riverside county...all indoor seating closed again. $%&#!!!!

I felt very, very safe the handful of times I ate indoors locally and was looking forward to hitting a couple of our favorites in Big Bear this weekend.

The thresholds for all the tiers are extremely low, and the bands between them are extremely narrow. The big SoCal counties that have many millions of people living in them will continually flex and move between Purple and Red tiers in 2020, and then likely continue to move between Red and Orange tiers in 2021.

Which just gets to the point of how nearly impossible it is for any theme park to try and plan to reopen with this current system. If you can't open until your mega-county gets to the Yellow Tier, how the heck do you plan for that more than 30 days out? You don't, and you can't.

Apparently Sacramento designed it that way on purpose. Why?

 

[Mojavelove]

Actually San Francisco County is now in Yellow too, which is rather large and diverse.

881,000 is certainly more than 'a few thousand'!

 

[TP2000]

Actually San Francisco County is now in Yellow too, which is rather large and diverse.

It's technically still in the Orange Tier at 2.5 cases per 100,000, but it was given a waiver because... it's San Francisco.

I imagine the waiver was given so that Nancy Pelosi can get to the hair salon on her Thanksgiving vacation.

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[buffaloclyde]

I don't get it. Why not just allow re-opening but at a much lower capacity than 25%? A thousand visitors at Disneyland is the same as a thousand in a smaller park that's allowed to re-open. From an operational standpoint, I can see how they may lose money if their operational costs exceeds admission and food/retail revenue, but I'm sure the bean counters can find ways to maximize cost efficiencies.

 

[Stevek]

Actually San Francisco County is now in Yellow too, which is rather large and diverse.

Interesting...his hometown is yellow

I find it very odd that one of my favorite cities, that literally had a poop map tracking where people pooped in the street, somehow is in the yellow tier.

 

[cmwade77]

And Californians won't be vaccinated until the state has approved vaccines and who knows how long that will take or if it will even happen. They're never going to get to Yellow Tier.

I do question if the state can legally delay a federally approved vaccine, I honestly don't know, but my gut says they can't.

 

[Disney Irish]

It's technically still in the Orange Tier at 2.5 cases per 100,000, but it was given a waiver because... it's San Francisco.

I imagine the waiver was given so that Nancy Pelosi can get to the hair salon on her Thanksgiving vacation.

Nope, it was due to the Equity Metric that you slammed. So when you have a County that actually cares to help the less fortunate then it means the case rates goes down.

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

Will never happen IMO...but I would see them announcing more layoffs now. Basically, if they assume that they will not open until Q1/Q2 of 2021, there really is no reason for them to have anyone on the payroll outside of whatever maintenance is needed to keep the park up. I would expect the vast majority of all construction to stop at this point. At some point, they will have to "guess" when they are going open and hire enough people that can be trained and ready for opening day.

I'm surprised and yet not surprised by today's turn of events.

How horrible will it be when DLR starts to ramp back up because it's in 'Yellow' status, then during training and re-hiring, it slips back into not Yellow status? Man...

 

[TP2000]

Interesting...his hometown is yellow

I find it very odd that one of my favorite cities, that literally had a poop map tracking where people pooped in the street, somehow is in the yellow tier.

It's statistics are firmly in the Orange Tier with 2.5 cases per 100,000. But it was given a waiver and extra credit points for some reason. Only Nancy Pelosi's hairdresser knows for sure!

 

[Stevek]

The thresholds for all the tiers are extremely low, and the bands between them are extremely narrow. The big SoCal counties that have many millions of people living in them will continually flex and move between Purple and Red tiers in 2020, and then likely continue to move between Red and Orange tiers in 2021.

Which just gets to the point of how nearly impossible it is for any theme park to try and plan to reopen with this current system. If you can't open until your mega-county gets to the Yellow Tier, how the heck do you plan for that more than 30 days out? You don't, and you can't.

Apparently Sacramento designed it that way on purpose. Why?

Which is obviously and absolute nightmare for these poor restaurants that are trying to determine when to have people come into work. One day yes, next day no. What a cluster_ _ _ _

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

And Californians won't be vaccinated until the state has approved vaccines and who knows how long that will take or if it will even happen. They're never going to get to Yellow Tier.

Never? Come on. Unless you think they eliminate the tiers once vaccines are available.

 

[Stevek]

It's statistics are firmly in the Orange Tier with 2.5 cases per 100,000. But it was given a waiver and extra credit points for some reason. Only Nancy Pelosi's hairdresser knows for sure!

Only Gavin Newsom really knows.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

I don't get it. Why not just allow re-opening but at a much lower capacity than 25%? A thousand visitors at Disneyland is the same as a thousand in a smaller park that's allowed to re-open.

Many of us gave up on questioning the "logic" behind any of these ridiculous regulations 7 months ago. None of this makes any sense but it's clear that the decisions specifically in regards to theme parks are designed to keep them from reopening. Period.

 

[TP2000]

Never? Come on. Unless you think they eliminate the tiers once vaccines are available.

You'd need to get almost all 40 Million Californians the vaccine to get down below 1 case per 100,000.

That's not 1 death per 100,000, that's one person who tests positive for Covid out of 100,000.

 

[cmwade77]

Interesting...his hometown is yellow

I find it very odd that one of my favorite cities, that literally had a poop map tracking where people pooped in the street, somehow is in the yellow tier.

I don't understand how it can be either, something is very fishy there.

 

[Stevek]

Never? Come on. Unless you think they eliminate the tiers once vaccines are available.

I do believe this will happen at some point. When the vaccine is widely available and it becomes a choice, the state will suddenly say that we no longer have a duty to protect you. Open the doors everywhere, assume the risk if you choose not to get vaccinated. This may very well be the saving grace for Disney IF there is enough availability during Q1 of 2021.

 

[DanielBB8]

To reduce the amount of cleaning: Have touch free areas. No more switchbacks that have railing that needs to be cleaned. Just have outdoor one way queue spaces that allows social distancing with masks. Disney has many rides where you don't need to touch the restraint like Small World and Haunted Mansion. The ghost host will pull down the seat restraint. Remove the spinner rides and roller coasters.

Disney should just open the park with half the rides and quarter capacity when it can. Continue to appeal the guidelines with slightly more lenient standards after a few months of operation.

 

[cmwade77]

Many of us gave up on questioning the "logic" behind any of these ridiculous regulations 7 months ago. None of this makes any sense but it's clear that the decisions specifically in regards to theme parks are designed to keep them from reopening. Period.

Yes, so who knocked the Mickey Bar out of Newsom's hand when he was a kid?

Seriously, why the vendetta against theme parks? And does he not understand that there will be many people who will now be traveling to other states to go to theme parks over the holidays that would have stayed within the state to go to Disneyland? How is that safer?