The War Is Over.. Congrats Roy Disney

[peter11435]

No matter how you look at it while the war is over for now, Roy Disney did not win. The fact is Eisner would have been leaving about now regardless of Roy's tactics. Roy did not support Iger either and he is now CEO. Disney still has no traditional animation department. Roy has been brought back in a pointless position that means nothing but "he used to be a director." The fact is that nothing has changed within the company as a result of Roy. And I am afraid that like it or not this reconciliation essentially says Disney won.

 

[CTXRover]

I'm pleased the fight is over. I just wanted to point out one thing from this post "'hopefully continue makng steps to diminish the cash-focused company that Disney had become under Eisner in his later years."

We shall all be in big trouble if they drop a 'cash-focus.' I do understand the sentiment that has been displayed here throughout many threads that the company has seemed to become 'money-hungry.' I don't like it either, but there is NO chance that will change. Will they find ways to do it that are less irritating? We hope so. But the bottom line in a publicly traded company is the bottom line. Increase profits at all costs, whether by cost-cutting or enhancing revenue or more usually, both.
We see the wisdom of enhancing revenue by increasing the value of the product, rather than cutting performances, hours, shampoo, etc. Hopefully Iger does too.

I think you said what I was thinking in a better way. I will never expect the company not to be out to make a profit, if they started that the company would be gone. However, I meant that I hope Iger continues to do things like dismantling the strategic planning department and other such steps that decentralize the primary focus being on making profit over fostering creativity, quality and maintaining important relationships to drive the company forward. There's a difference in making money and creating shareholder value and making cuts here and there to squeeze as much money out of each division as they can.

 

[mickey04]

No matter how you look at it while the war is over for now, Roy Disney did not win. The fact is Eisner would have been leaving about now regardless of Roy's tactics. Roy did not support Iger either and he is now CEO. Disney still has no traditional animation department. Roy has been brought back in a pointless position that means nothing but "he used to be a director." The fact is that nothing has changed within the company as a result of Roy. And I am afraid that like it or not this reconciliation essentially says Disney won.

I don't think that's true at all. If Roy hadn't launched the whole "Save Disney" campaign, Eisner certainly wouldn't have been stripped of his chairmanship after the 2004 annual meeting, and I also don't believe he would have decided to not renew his contract. The fact is, he's not at all ready to retire and is even considering going to another company after he's done with Disney.

Was Roy's campaign a complete success? Perhaps not. But the fact is, Eisner will be gone a full year before the end of his contract and he was exposed as being the ego-maniacal "cant-get-along-with-others" leader that he is. To say nothing has changed since Roy left just isn't true.

 

[peter11435]

I don't think that's true at all. If Roy hadn't launched the whole "Save Disney" campaign, Eisner certainly wouldn't have been stripped of his chairmanship after the 2004 annual meeting, and I also don't believe he would have decided to not renew his contract. The fact is, he's not at all ready to retire and is even considering going to another company after he's done with Disney.

Was Roy's campaign a complete success? Perhaps not. But the fact is, Eisner will be gone a full year before the end of his contract and he was exposed as being the ego-maniacal "cant-get-along-with-others" leader that he is. To say nothing has changed since Roy left just isn't true.

I don't know where you get your information, but ME has stated he wants to take it easy including a move to a camp in Vermont. As for his contract even Roy has stated that Eisner was not going to renew his contract after 2006, which was decided long before Roy started his “movement.” As for being stripped of his chairmanship after the 2004 annual meeting, well that was pretty much pointless, (even according to Roy himself). He was still CEO, and his replacement was his good friend (who Roy was just as opposed to) George Mitchell.

 

[mickey04]

I don't know where you get your information, but ME has stated he wants to take it easy including a move to a camp in Vermont.

From the OC register (it was also in the LA Times and Reuters, among others)

Wednesday, June 15, 2005

A future in showbiz
Departing Disney CEO-turned-author Michael Eisner sees himself in movies, TV or theater, and praises replacement Robert Iger in interview.

By GREG BAUMANN
Bloomberg News

Walt Disney Co.'s outgoing chief executive, Michael Eisner, said he's ready for a "fourth act" involving Broadway, television, movies or publishing, after more than 20 years leading the company.

"I have an opportunity to do something theatrical," Eisner said Monday in an interview on "Charlie Rose," where he was promoting his new book, "Camp." Before taking over at Disney in 1984, Eisner led Paramount Pictures and helped run programming at ABC television network.

Eisner, 63, is leaving Disney, the nation's second-biggest media company, amid a ratings rebound at ABC, increased traffic at theme parks and higher movie revenues. Eisner last year announced plans to retire in September after fighting off ouster attempts by former directors Roy Disney and Stanley Gold...

Eisner said he might seek the advice of former Paramount partner Barry Diller, who now controls IAC/InterActiveCorp, in preparing for his next role.

"I'm mostly interested in Broadway, movies, television, publishing," Eisner said. "I like that stuff. To me it's interesting."

If you read DisneyWar or even his autobiography, he just doesnt seem like the kind of guy who "takes it easy" and goesaway quietly to Vermont. But since you seem to be more in the know as far as what's been said by Roy and ME than myself or the media, then I guess you're right.

 

[DisneyRoxMySox]

How could Roy not go to the celebration at DL on the 17th?? Does anyone find anything wrong with that?? Save Disney was about getting back to the basic values of the company. Now here we are celebrating what statred the comapny, what both his uncle and even his own father created and he isn't going? It is a disgrace!

 

[mickey04]

How could Roy not go to the celebration at DL on the 17th?? Does anyone find anything wrong with that?? Save Disney was about getting back to the basic values of the company. Now here we are celebrating what statred the comapny, what both his uncle and even his own father created and he isn't going? It is a disgrace!

Well, Disneyland didn't actually start the company, but I see what you mean, he should be there. But the fact is for a long time it didn't look like he would be invited and I think this is going to be his last boat race of a 30 year career. Obviously, this is a strong personal passion that is probably equally important to him. Poor timing though.

 

[peter11435]

Well, Disneyland didn't actually start the company, but I see what you mean, he should be there. But the fact is for a long time it didn't look like he would be invited and I think this is going to be his last boat race of a 30 year career. Obviously, this is a strong personal passion that is probably equally important to him. Poor timing though.

Actually Iger personally invited Roy to both the May 5th ceremony, and the July 17th ceremony. Even asked him to reread the dedication. Roy declined to attend.

 

[askmike1]

How could Roy not go to the celebration at DL on the 17th?? Does anyone find anything wrong with that?? Save Disney was about getting back to the basic values of the company. Now here we are celebrating what statred the comapny, what both his uncle and even his own father created and he isn't going? It is a disgrace!

You are right. If Roy was trully a "Disney" and trully was in touch with Disney fanatics, he would have bought a ticket and attended Disneyland on that day. IMO, he is being nothing but a big baby who throws tantrums and calls people names.

-Michael

 

[imagineer boy]

Actually Iger personally invited Roy to both the May 5th ceremony, and the July 17th ceremony. Even asked him to reread the dedication. Roy declined to attend.

Roy has his reasons. Why didn't he attend? Because Eisner would be there. Eisner was at the May 5th ceremonies and he will be at teh July 17th ceremonies. Roy has however said that he has been to Disneyland on some Eisner-free occasions and said that things are looking really great there thanks to Mr. Ouimet.

Although, I am happy to see that Iger invited Roy to the ceremonies. I'm getting more and more confident in Iger now days.

 

[Woody13]

Roy has his reasons. Why didn't he attend? Because Eisner would be there. Eisner was at the May 5th ceremonies and he will be at teh July 17th ceremonies. Roy has however said that he has been to Disneyland on some Eisner-free occasions and said that things are looking really great there thanks to Mr. Ouimet.

Although, I am happy to see that Iger invited Roy to the ceremonies. I'm getting more and more confident in Iger now days.

Roy will not be there because of the Transpacific Yacht Race. Roy's passion is yacht racing and he holds several world records.

The Transpacific Yacht Race is an offshore yacht race starting off Point Fermin near Los Angeles and ending off Diamond Head in Honolulu, a distance of around 2,225 nautical miles. Started in 1906, it is one of yachting's premier offshore races and attracts entrants from all over the world.

The race is famous for fast downwind sailing under spinnaker in the trade winds.

The current monohull elapsed time record of 7 days, 11 hours 41 minutes and 27 seconds is held by Roy Disney's Pyewacket, a 73 foot maxi ultralight designed by Reichel/Pugh.

The race is organized by the Transpacific Yacht Club.

http://www.answers.com/topic/transpacific-yacht-race

 

[angelfaerie52]

hmm

It really doesn't matter if you like Jobs. Nor does it matter if I like Jobs. What matters is business. Jobs shopped around for other studios to distribute his pictures and they all said no. Jobs is not noted for being a tough business man. However, he is regarded as being very unreasonable in his business practice. That is why his computer company has hit the skids. In total desperation, Intel chips are now going into the new Apple machines.

On Jobs... I don't really like Jobs, but I did purchase a Powerbook because I am fed up with Windows XP. Service Pack 2 crashed my PC...

Anyway, I think he did the Intel switch to appeal to more users... for his own benefit. They'll be in the Mac Minis in 2006 and not the higher end models until 2007 or 08. Apple is doing VERY well recently, what with the whole iPod craze. I definitely do not think his company has hit the skids. He's competing to be number one in the computer market and the evil Apple inunduation in the ads is working...

 

[askmike1]

Roy has however said that he has been to Disneyland on some Eisner-free occasions and said that things are looking really great there thanks to Mr. Ouimet.

Doesn't Roy understand though that Michael Eisner had to approve those budgets. He is also partly responsible for Disneyland's beautification.

Roy's passion is yacht racing and he holds several world records.

If that is trully his passion, then he should get out of the Disney company and go to that. He has to figure out what is more important...being apart of a yacht race or being a part of Disneyland's 50th anniversary.

-Michael

 

[peter11435]

Roy has his reasons. Why didn't he attend? Because Eisner would be there. Eisner was at the May 5th ceremonies and he will be at teh July 17th ceremonies. Roy has however said that he has been to Disneyland on some Eisner-free occasions and said that things are looking really great there thanks to Mr. Ouimet.

Although, I am happy to see that Iger invited Roy to the ceremonies. I'm getting more and more confident in Iger now days.

Don't you think it is a bit "baby-like" to not attend the 50th anniversary of a theme park started by your uncle and father simply because someone you don’t get along with will be there. That’s like not going to your own wedding because your mother-in-law will be there.

 

[DisneyRoxMySox]

If that is trully his passion, then he should get out of the Disney company and go to that. He has to figure out what is more important...being apart of a yacht race or being a part of Disneyland's 50th anniversary.

-Michael

You would think that going to Disneyland was the more obvious choice. I used to support Roy, but hearing that he will not be attending the events on the 17th, really does make me angry.

I am even thinking about writing a letter to him. Whos with me?

 

[RogueHabit]

Interesting to read this in my mailbox just now. Good news? I think so; Disney will benefit from this I am in no doubt.

 

[Pioneer Hall]

This is a very good day for Disney. They are giving confidence to a new CEO that shows a lot of promise while at the same time getting a voice in the company again.

Here's to a new beginning for the Walt Disney Company...

 

[dxwwf3]

This is a very good day for Disney. They are giving confidence to a new CEO that shows a lot of promise while at the same time getting a voice in the company again.

Here's to a new beginning for the Walt Disney Company...

Amen! Things are getting better every day at DL and hopefully we will be saying the same thing about WDW this time next year. Let's hope Iger can get everything back on track.

 

[Rayray]

Doesn't Roy understand though that Michael Eisner had to approve those budgets. He is also partly responsible for Disneyland's beautification.
-Michael

Sure, Eisner had to approve the budget for Quimet, but he also approved the budget for Pressler and Harris. Eisner has had his ups and his downs (more ups than downs) in his career and tried desperately (with some success, I might add) to leave the company on a good note. His behavior during the Pressler era was totally unacceptable on Walt Disney's high standards. I shudder to think what the founder of Disneyland would say if he had taken a stroll through his masterpiece a few years ago. The park's condition was a total mess. Eisner and Pressler paired together were like five year olds trimming hedges: they always cut to much and don't know when to stop, and when they realize what they have down, they blame the mistake on someone or something else.

I have much higher hopes for Bob Iger.

 

[DisneyRoxMySox]

I sent a letter to Roy, I hope he gets it, here it is:

Dear Mr. Disney,

I was quite shocked and sadened to hear that you will not be attending Disneyland on July 17. This whole campaign to save Disney, was to get back to the basic values of the company. The values set forth by your Uncle and Father.

Here we are celebrating the great things your Uncle and Father did for America and the World. Here we are celebrating the values you fought so hard to remain in the Comapany, as it was going down the wrong path. And you do not plan to attend??

When I first heard about your efforts to save Disney, I was gladened. Something, needed to be done. When I met you at the Annual Meeting in Philadelphia, it was a special moment. Meeting a direct descendant of Walt himself, wow! (Thanks for the autograph!) Successful or not, I thank you for your efforts!! I am glad to hear the mense between you and the Walt Disney Company!!

But if you truly cared about the Comapny, if you truly cared about Disneyland, you would accept Mr. Iger's invitation for you to attend the celebration at Disneyland on July 17 and not race your yacht. I understand it is a passion of yours, but don't you think the symbol of the Company you tried so hard to save is more important??

Please attend Disneyland on the 17th, if you don't all that you have said, all that you have done in the past to help save The Walt Disney Comapny is a joke.


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