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News The Walt Disney Company Board of Directors Extends Robert A. Iger’s Contract as CEO Through 2026

MrPromey

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The major problem is that subscriptions have plateaued and a large chunk are likely non retail subscribers (wholesale accounts made up by people getting bundles from telecom providers that pay a fraction of the retail price)

I’ll get out ahead of it…yes Disney added 7M subscribers last q, but what large cable company whose name ends in pectrum did they make a deal with to bundle D+ with cable packages?

So yes Disney does make money on subscribers, but ARPU should also factor in.

Again using the Sony example, Sony takes a cut on the licensing revenue, but doesn’t have to deal with the black hole of owning its on DTC platform.
The cable deal isn’t live yet.

I know because I opted not to renew my annual plan this time and instead, downgrade for that when I pick it up for “free”*. 😏

*with ads but since I’m already stuck with the cable, I’ll take it rather than pay twice.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Interesting that they are renewing Iger's contract, when he's about the same age as when they ousted Roy Jr., claiming he was too old to be on the board, and that they had an age rule.
Did they get rid of this rule?
I doubt it ever was a real rule, unless someone has evidence to the contrary. The board members probably just told Roy Jr that to make him angry and get rid of him. His father was the original CEO of the company and ran it until age 78 before he retired and died a few months later.

By the 2000's, TWDC had already long since been fully handed over to a completely different breed of corporate executive with wildly different business practices from the original Disney family. The strategic planning group set up during the early Eisner era. There was no desire to allow a Disney to have any say in decisions anymore. I do not think the board would have prevented someone as old as Roy Jr from being a member as long as they fit the business template they demanded. It was likely just that they didn't want Roy Jr specifically on the board.

81 year old Nelson Peltz has been attempting to get a seat on the board at TWDC (multiple in fact). And while the board has yet to concede to his demands for various reasons and it's currently unlikely he'll get what he wants, his age is not one of the disqualifying factors being used against him. It's his behavior, policies and the fact that he has destroyed nearly all of the prior companies he gained control over in the past. And he's made no attempts to hide that he intends to also burn Disney to the ground and loot the remains if he was given power. If he wasn't so insane and destructive, he'd likely have gotten his seat by now.
 
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MerlinTheGoat

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What does age have to do with running anything?
It depends. Age can absolutely be a factor in running a massive international corporation. Even if a person appears otherwise healthy, energetic and mentally competent (things that affect different people to differing degrees, but all inevitably start to decline with old age regardless), it gets to a point where a person's life past a certain age is an unknown coin toss. And if that person dies in an untimely manner without having put together a succession plan, it can cause a lot of chaos. Bob Iger for instance is getting up in years now and has been pressed by the board to find a proper successor. Something he has been refusing to do, either firing any potential candidates or (in Chapek's case) setting up a weak patsy to undermine so he can eventually reinsert himself when the time was right.

There was massive concern when Walt Disney died, and he wasn't even the CEO. Years before, he was even asked what would become of the company when he died, and he had to assure people that his brother Roy would still be around and was qualified to replace him. Then Roy died a few years after that. He did retire shortly before and handed it over to a successor, but it was still a turbulent time (especially the studios) for nearly two decades.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, you probably wouldn't feel comfortable with someone in their late teens or even 20s running Disney either. Just as declining health and old age are potential issues with running a company, so are inexperience and immaturity (though to be fair, some people never grow out of those either). There are valid concerns with both ends of the age spectrum.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Red alert!

Battlestations!!

Looks like a highly clickbaity title given the contents of the article, which doesn't have anything to point towards a hostile takeover at all. Just regurgitating the same old news about Peltz trying to gain a seat on the board. No clue who the author of the article is either, the source is a site called SK Pop, never heard of it and wouldn't bet on their reputation. I'd wait for mainstream reputable financial sources.
 

drizgirl

Well-Known Member
It depends. Age can absolutely be a factor in running a massive international corporation. Even if a person appears otherwise healthy, energetic and mentally competent (things that affect different people to differing degrees, but all inevitably start to decline with old age regardless), it gets to a point where a person's life past a certain age is an unknown coin toss. And if that person dies in an untimely manner without having put together a succession plan, it can cause a lot of chaos. Bob Iger for instance is getting up in years now and has been pressed by the board to find a proper successor. Something he has been refusing to do, either firing any potential candidates or (in Chapek's case) setting up a weak patsy to undermine so he can eventually reinsert himself when the time was right.

There was massive concern when Walt Disney died, and he wasn't even the CEO. Years before, he was even asked what would become of the company when he died, and he had to assure people that his brother Roy would still be around and was qualified to replace him. Then Roy died a few years after that. He did retire shortly before and handed it over to a successor, but it was still a turbulent time (especially the studios) for nearly two decades.

On the opposite end of the spectrum, you probably wouldn't feel comfortable with someone in their late teens or even 20s running Disney either. Just as declining health and old age are potential issues with running a company, so are inexperience and immaturity (though to be fair, some people never grow out of those either). There are valid concerns with both ends of the age spectrum.
It was more of a rhetorical question. I think we as a society are about to have a much bigger discussion about running large organizations at an advanced age.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Looks like a highly clickbaity title given the contents of the article, which doesn't have anything to point towards a hostile takeover at all. Just regurgitating the same old news about Peltz trying to gain a seat on the board. No clue who the author of the article is either, but they seem to mostly post about pop culture movie news. I'd wait for mainstream reputable financial sources.
The hubbabaloo is clickbaity…

But the meeting is apparently real.

The sweater is in ALOT more trouble than dusters realize. All signs point to it

Just watch it play.
 
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MerlinTheGoat

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The hubbabaloo it clickbaity…

But the meeting is apparently real.

The sweater is in ALOT more trouble than dusters realize. All signs point to it

Just watch it play.
Oh I think he's in plenty of trouble, i've heard as much myself. I just don't think we're at the point of a hostile takeover yet. I doubt Peltz will be the one to take him down, wouldn't give much thought to their meeting. Iger will probably cling on for a while. The board may gripe, but they've continually renewed his contract regardless of what Iger does to annoy them. The real issue is that they lack an alternative to Iger, something that Iger is well aware of. The board also doesn't want to be the ones to find and train a successor, they've left that responsibility in Iger's hands.

Problem is that Iger doesn't want a successor, he has fired every single candidate that has been floated thus far. It took the Covid catastrophe for Iger to finally relinquish power. And the person who took over was someone Iger knew was too weak to run the company and would inevitably fail. And when he did fail, Iger worked his magic on the board and got them to fire Chapek and brought Iger back on as CEO again. By then, the crisis was over and no longer a threat to Iger. Now he's gone right back to doing what he always did. Ignoring the board's wishes to find and train a successor and firing anyone who is floated as a potential. This will probably continue for as long as he can get away with it, or another Covid-like threat crops up and scares Rat Iger off the ship again.

The board can gripe all they want, but i'm somewhat skeptical they're at their breaking point yet. They'll have to come up with their own successor, someone who Iger can't fire. And they're also not blind to how dangerous Nelson Peltz is to the company, so I doubt they'd side with him over Iger for now.
 

Disstevefan1

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Oh I think he's in plenty of trouble, i've heard as much myself. I just don't think we're at the point of a hostile takeover yet. I doubt Peltz will be the one to take him down, wouldn't give much thought to their meeting. Iger will probably cling on for a while. The board may gripe, but they've continually renewed his contract regardless of what Iger does to annoy them. The real issue is that they lack an alternative to Iger, something that Iger is well aware of. The board also doesn't want to be the ones to find and train a successor, they've left that responsibility in Iger's hands.

Problem is that Iger doesn't want a successor, he has fired every single candidate that has been floated thus far. It took the Covid catastrophe for Iger to finally relinquish power. And the person who took over was someone Iger knew was too weak to run the company and would inevitably fail. And when he did fail, Iger worked his magic on the board and got them to fire Chapek and brought Iger back on as CEO again. By then, the crisis was over and no longer a threat to Iger. Now he's gone right back to doing what he always did. Ignoring the board's wishes to find and train a successor and firing anyone who is floated as a potential. This will probably continue for as long as he can get away with it, or another Covid-like threat crops up and scares Rat Iger off the ship again.

The board can gripe all they want, but i'm somewhat skeptical they're at their breaking point yet. They'll have to come up with their own successor, someone who Iger can't fire. And they're also not blind to how dangerous Nelson Peltz is to the company, so I doubt they'd side with him over Iger for now.
I agree, Chapek did not know it, but Iger knew when he appointed him, he would get him kicked out unless he was a yes man for Iger.

Chapek tried to be a leader, tried to do the right thing for the company. His mistake was the hostage tape. If he stuck to his guns, he would have still been fired, but he would have been fired for trying to stick to HIS plan.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Oh I think he's in plenty of trouble, i've heard as much myself. I just don't think we're at the point of a hostile takeover yet. I doubt Peltz will be the one to take him down, wouldn't give much thought to their meeting. Iger will probably cling on for a while. The board may gripe, but they've continually renewed his contract regardless of what Iger does to annoy them. The real issue is that they lack an alternative to Iger, something that Iger is well aware of. The board also doesn't want to be the ones to find and train a successor, they've left that responsibility in Iger's hands.

Problem is that Iger doesn't want a successor, he has fired every single candidate that has been floated thus far. It took the Covid catastrophe for Iger to finally relinquish power. And the person who took over was someone Iger knew was too weak to run the company and would inevitably fail. And when he did fail, Iger worked his magic on the board and got them to fire Chapek and brought Iger back on as CEO again. By then, the crisis was over and no longer a threat to Iger. Now he's gone right back to doing what he always did. Ignoring the board's wishes to find and train a successor and firing anyone who is floated as a potential. This will probably continue for as long as he can get away with it, or another Covid-like threat crops up and scares Rat Iger off the ship again.

The board can gripe all they want, but i'm somewhat skeptical they're at their breaking point yet. They'll have to come up with their own successor, someone who Iger can't fire. And they're also not blind to how dangerous Nelson Peltz is to the company, so I doubt they'd side with him over Iger for now.

Yeah…”hostile takeover” is ridiculous…

How it plays is that black rock/vanguard decide that there needs to be a management change…and Iger “retires”

It’s really as simple as that.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I agree, Chapek did not know it, but Iger knew when he appointed him, he would get him kicked out unless he was a yes man for Iger.

Chapek tried to be a leader, tried to do the right thing for the company. His mistake was the hostage tape. If he stuck to his guns, he would have still been fired, but he would have been fired for trying to stick to HIS plan.
Chapek had no business being the “successor” to anything…and it’s hanging around iger’s neck to this day
 

Lilofan

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I agree, Chapek did not know it, but Iger knew when he appointed him, he would get him kicked out unless he was a yes man for Iger.

Chapek tried to be a leader, tried to do the right thing for the company. His mistake was the hostage tape. If he stuck to his guns, he would have still been fired, but he would have been fired for trying to stick to HIS plan.
In my experience when I move up the food chain, teamplayer, Yes man , are some the traits the team is looking for when looking to fill a position . To get along you need to play along.
 

Dranth

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I do not know Chapek personally and never worked with him but I know, will never know what kind of a leader he could have been because he was never given the chance to lead because of Iger.
Yes, we do. He was terrible. Even before he became CEO, he was running the parks and was the one who implemented all the cheap merch, food quality reductions, increased after hours, over stuffing parties, reduced maintenance. Once CEO he completely redid the structure of the studios which turned out to be a disaster. He wasn't going to pay cast members during the start of the shutdown until he was over ruled by the board. Made a mess of public relations with his terrible, awkward, and pathetic attempts to deal with social which lead directly to a giant confrontation with the state of Florida.

Iger deserves the blame for letting Chapek touch anything let alone being the only choice for CEO but Chapek himself has done plenty of damage and proven more than once that he is terrible.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
In my experience when I move up the food chain, teamplayer, Yes man , are some the traits the team is looking for when looking to fill a position . To get along you need to play along.
Agreed. Chapek tried to be a leader instead of doing what Iger wanted. Then he toggled to get in line and it was too late. If Chapek wanted to stay in the job, he should have done and said exactly as Iger told him from behind the scenes.

Personally, I think Chapek is way better off right now.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
Yes, we do. He was terrible. Even before he became CEO, he was running the parks and was the one who implemented all the cheap merch, food quality reductions, increased after hours, over stuffing parties, reduced maintenance. Once CEO he completely redid the structure of the studios which turned out to be a disaster. He wasn't going to pay cast members during the start of the shutdown until he was over ruled by the board. Made a mess of public relations with his terrible, awkward, and pathetic attempts to deal with social which lead directly to a giant confrontation with the state of Florida.

Iger deserves the blame for letting Chapek touch anything let alone being the only choice for CEO but Chapek himself has done plenty of damage and proven more than once that he is terrible.
I get you, and as a parks fan myself I do hate the cost cutting and price increases in that is still happening today.

I wish Chapek let the parks spend money in the parks like Iger is letting studios spend money today.
 

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