Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
Funny you should ask:
Is Iger calling in favors from recent Disney Legends?
Funny you should ask:
**This is purely speculation.**All of these endorsements, including from people such as George Lucas who have previously been scathing in their criticism of Iger, should paint a pretty clear picture of how much worse Peltz and his cronies would be.
To reiterate- Bob Iger IS a horrible leader. Peltz is somehow 100x worse.
What are you talking about? Bob Iger is an excellent leader! Bob Iger is Disney's "creative North Star." He's been doing things for The Walt Disney Company that, "are unprecedented since the days of Walt Disney." Bob Iger "is a once-in-a-generation leader with an ambitious vision for the future." Iger knows, "exactly what he is doing." Iger, "knows the media and entertainment business cold and has the successful track record to prove it."All of these endorsements, including from people such as George Lucas who have previously been scathing in their criticism of Iger, should paint a pretty clear picture of how much worse Peltz and his cronies would be.
To reiterate- Bob Iger IS a horrible leader. Peltz is somehow 100x worse.
You're right that it sounds conspiratorial.Doesn't it stand to reason that these endorsements at least may be part of a larger influence campaign by the company? Get all these noteworthy people (Lucas, Gad, Abigail Disney, and more to come) to come out in support of Iger, and in exchange, they get a big fat check, or other preferential treatment (a Disney Legends award, perhaps).
Sounds conspiratorial, I know. But it would be no different than paying off social media influencers (through cash, free passes or other perks) to come to the parks and rave about the latest cupcake offering.
I mean, there are many, many possibilities that are not terribly probable. You could say this in an attempt to lend credibility to virtually any conspiracy. What makes you think this one is especially worth entertaining? It's more likely that we're seeing a combination of people speaking either of their own volition or in response to Disney's urging to support Iger (which was also made generally to the public). Suggesting that money is changing hands is conspiratorial, and it's not even terribly relevant aside from being able to point and say, "Look! Person doing questionable thing!" It doesn't make Peltz any better.Fair point, but would you at least consider it as a possibility?
People I disagree with are not necessarily stupid. But anyone who loves Disney and still supports Peltz is unquestionably stupid. It’s ok to hate Iger and want change… but this isn’t it.
The strategy they’re employing is like a flailing candidate that needs a boost in the polls so they trot out a congressman with some reputational cache that’s been retired for a few years.No, you're exactly right. Look at the text of Gad's statement:
"I am fortunate to have seen some of the plans Bob Iger has in store for the future and that future couldn't be in better hands."
How would a random actor be privy to the future of The Walt Disney Company? Sure, there will be Frozen lands and new Frozen movies. We knew that already. He's talking about information we don't have. What this indicates is that there was an event where influencers were invited to see some of the upcoming plans. This likely included presentations by Doctor, Feige, Kennedy, and D'Amaro. Something of a private D23. Iger also probably attended and personally met with the influencers.
Iger is running a political campaign. Complete with celebrity endorsements, adds, attacks in the press, etc. Private events with politicians and influencers are standard operating procedure for the political realm. All you need to know about why Disney is operating this like a political campaign is on Disney's executive biography page. Disney's current head of Communications Kristina Schake has the following background:
"Ms. Schake has served at the highest levels of government, as Communications Director for First Lady Michelle Obama and Deputy Communications Director for Secretary Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign."
She's literally a political operative. She's using the entire playbook. No conspiracy.
You can not like Peltz…but not go that far. It’s what I keep referring to as “the boogieman”All of these endorsements, including from people such as George Lucas who have previously been scathing in their criticism of Iger, should paint a pretty clear picture of how much worse Peltz and his cronies would be.
To reiterate- Bob Iger IS a horrible leader. Peltz is somehow 100x worse.
And if he doesn't, will he take that as an indication that he should do more of what Peltz and Rasulo would do? You're not painting a picture of an outcome where things actually improve.If iger get la 95% of the vote…he will run with as validation of everything he’s ever done…including the obvious mistakes that got them here
There is no change coming. There are two outcomes to this drama-Many in the anti-Peltz faction acknowledge that changes need be made, and the cleanest and easiest would be a shakeup of the feckless BOD.
Again, how would that change be coming about but for what’s happening now?
The four nominal candidates in waiting are more of the same.
Well, she has a consulting company. Anyone seen a contract with ZM Strategies pop up lately?What’s Zenia Mucha been up to lately?
... With people who are infinitely more feckless?Many in the anti-Peltz faction acknowledge that changes need be made, and the cleanest and easiest would be a shakeup of the feckless BOD.
How will changing things for the worse make things better? How does nominating these people lead to a desirable outcome? Yes, it's disruptive to current leadership, but it's also destructive and does nothing to steer the ship back on course. It's just setting out for even more treacherous waters.Again, how would that change be coming about but for what’s happening now?
No…who says it’s binary…for about 4,001st time?And if he doesn't, will he take that as an indication that he should do more of what Peltz and Rasulo would do? You're not painting a picture of an outcome where things actually improve.
You can say it as many times as you like, but it is literally a binary choice. You vote yes or no on Trian's nominees.No…who says it’s binary…for about 4,001st time?
There three entities at play: Disney, Blackwells, and Trian. Not binary.You can say it as many times as you like, but it is literally a binary choice. You vote yes or no on Trian's nominees.
Not leading this campaign. It wouldn’t have gotten this far1) I don’t think these people are don’t really disagree with Iger; I don’t think they’re necessarily bought and paid for
2) I do think the near-daily rollout on social media by people who have never really weighed in on this kind of thing before, with remarkably similar talking points, smells of an orchestrated campaign.
What’s Zenia Mucha been up to lately?
It is binary as to whether or not you opt to vote for Trian's nominees using their proxy card.There three entities at play: Disney, Blackwells, and Trian. Not binary.
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