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News The Walt Disney Company Board of Directors Extends Robert A. Iger’s Contract as CEO Through 2026
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Well lilo was sure happy with his 401K…
…but true happiness by fans will only be achieved if they feel Disney values them…and that’s by providing great, memorable products in all mediums
Doesn’t mean they have to be perfect…just always give sincere effort.
Is that what we’re getting?
When it happens…everyone will line up. Stock price is just gravy for a fan on top.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Don’t you get fresh with my Taylor
BrianLo
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Fully agree, a flop is a movie people didn’t see. Especially when it is positioned as a tentpole, which most Disney films are.
The inherent bias is thinking we live in a world where it’s 1:1 correlated to the box office window. For a hot second there it was coming off the rails.
See: Encanto. A hit by all measures, except Box office. 2nd most watched movie in 2023 and it wasn’t a new release. Multiple parks projects In the works. Looks poised to have that illustrious tale.
See also Rapunzel, Elemental.
Disney was not very successful in 2023, but they are coming off the year with a new IP (Elemental) that they own and fully control. Really no other studio has that fortune.
I will hat to tip Universal, since they are so strategically in bed with Nintendo.
Nubs70
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How many musical films are on D+ ?Spin hath beguneth
‘Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour’ Most Watched Music Film Ever On Disney+ With 4.6M Views
'Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour' Most Watched Music Film Ever On Disney+ With 4.6M Viewsdeadline.com
There's gotta be at least 2 dozen from Hannah Montana.
Nubs70
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Iger has become Jeff Blashill.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Points of clarification:
Encanto had that whole “thing” going on that distorted numbers
And elemental had a consistent churn last year
Wish is a full on flop. No Sunny side up there
Tangled is one of the biggest, most influential movies they’ve made. It launched a whole new period of animation
But they spent some ridiculous amount recutting it - so they give a Flop tag as a bit of a misnomer
Bob Chapek has made his first public comments since being fired from Disney in a new CNBC documentary ESPN’s Fight for Dominance.
Article from CNBC below.
www.cnbc.com
Article from CNBC below.
Former Disney CEO Bob Chapek breaks silence, says there's no strategic need for ESPN partners
Former Disney CEO Bob Chapek spoke to CNBC about ESPN and its future in his first public comments since his 2022 firing.
www.cnbc.com
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Now that I’ve had my morning Starbucks xanex mocha…
So if we have a pattern of announcements with no intent to complete - sorry “cancellations” - what exactly do you call it? It’s not the money…and it’s surely not the lack of need…
So I call it a lie. You can call it “strategic disinenginuity” if that sounds more artificulate?
We got a nice stack of these piling up in recent years. And it’s gone further. Instead of announce and cancel…now they have geekcons where they just say they’re THINKING about it
What a world, huh?
Or…you can just say the management is incompetent and pooches this. I can accept that and retract my “lie” label.
…it’s like madlibs…I love it!
PR…and you know that. Giving the perception of investment to promote sales while not intending to foot the bill. Something that has increased in occurrence…like a lot
Actually I probably think too much.
So if we have a pattern of announcements with no intent to complete - sorry “cancellations” - what exactly do you call it? It’s not the money…and it’s surely not the lack of need…
So I call it a lie. You can call it “strategic disinenginuity” if that sounds more artificulate?
We got a nice stack of these piling up in recent years. And it’s gone further. Instead of announce and cancel…now they have geekcons where they just say they’re THINKING about it
What a world, huh?
Or…you can just say the management is incompetent and pooches this. I can accept that and retract my “lie” label.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Bob Chapek has made his first public comments since being fired from Disney in a new CNBC documentary ESPN’s Fight for Dominance.
Article from CNBC below.
Former Disney CEO Bob Chapek breaks silence, says there's no strategic need for ESPN partners
Former Disney CEO Bob Chapek spoke to CNBC about ESPN and its future in his first public comments since his 2022 firing.
…something none of us really needed in our lives
Sirwalterraleigh
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Disstevefan1
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I was trying to keep an open mind and said box office flops may eventually break even over the very long run.
But I agree with you.
I am sure when TWDC releases a film they DO NOT think to themselves, "We know this movie will lose at the box office but we will make it back later with merch."
They want to make the money upfront at the box office, just like all other companies.
lazyboy97o
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You didn’t answer who the filing of fake government records (a crime) benefited.Now that I’ve had my morning Starbucks xanex mocha…
…it’s like madlibs…I love it!
PR…and you know that. Giving the perception of investment to promote sales while not intending to foot the bill. Something that has increased in occurrence…like a lot
Actually I probably think too much.
So if we have a pattern of announcements with no intent to complete - sorry “cancellations” - what exactly do you call it? It’s not the money…and it’s surely not the lack of need…
So I call it a lie. You can call it “strategic disinenginuity” if that sounds more artificulate?
We got a nice stack of these piling up in recent years. And it’s gone further. Instead of announce and cancel…now they have geekcons where they just say they’re THINKING about it
What a world, huh?
Or…you can just say the management is incompetent and pooches this. I can accept that and retract my “lie” label.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Ancillary sales are not the way Disney “break even”
They had a catastrophic year of failure last year…and this “eventually” idea was spawned as a coping mechanism
…buzzer
Not sure why people are arguing about if Peltz being on the board is a good/bad thing as its almost certain he will lose (though with lower numbers for last year), the trades view him as a joke and so do most of wall street. Only reason Iger and co. are putting out a lot of press is that he tends to will the rest of the board to his will for better or for worse, which would be a nice change of pace if his usual strategy is "sell random things off and cut costs randomly." Best case scenario if he gets on is some of the money put aside for parks is redirected back to the domestic ones and fox and some of the cable networks get sold off. Besides, for the film side, most of the things he's proposing (making executive meddling a proponent of the company, which Iger has been doing since he ruined Twin Peaks, trying to get espn out of cable, etc) are actually happening, but the most likely scenario no matter what happens is that all divisions (save FX and the television animation ones) will remain as creatively stagnant as they've been for a while.
Chip Chipperson
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Just off the top of my head I came up with Hamilton, The Beatles Get Back documentary, and Elton John's farewell tour in LA. Beating those 3 would seem like a big deal to me.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Yeah…I’d say swift is a bigger deal currently…with the excepting of maybe Hamilton at that time
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Government records?
You mean construction permits? Or sec docs that can be revised whenever?
I’m not disputing those at all…I’m saying if the plan was to proceed only “if, buts, candy and nuts” worked out…then it was just a placeholder…not a serious project that was a priority.
peter11435
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That’s the problem. You still think (incorrectly) that the company had no intent to complete the project when they announced it. You’ve convinced yourself of something that isn’t true.