News The Walt Disney Company Board of Directors Extends Robert A. Iger’s Contract as CEO Through 2026

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Cool. So your conspiracy is he is lying in easily verifiable forward looking statements. Ones that will blow up in his face in six weeks? I figured this is where you were going to take this.

Yes, I’m quite happy to hold you to this one, thanks for taking the bait.

It’s not a conspiracy…it’s that anything on Wall Street is subject to “things change” doctrine.

Disney fans are really clueless to the SEC. That isn’t a “violation”…it’s a financial tactic used every day without batting an eye.

They spin bankruptcies as “positive”

Let’s just see how it goes? Bobs under immense pressure. That last quarterly was PR designed crap and people celebrated it here…until you look at it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Iger will cruise to an easy victory. Business will continue as usual in all areas of TWDC..

Of course he will…now he’s using it to stroke his ego…

Which means all the stuff you love that’s rolled down the tracks the last five years?…get ready for another big, creamy sausage gravy covered helping of it.

I would love to be proven wrong…sign me up and I’ll be here to make the proclamation

 

[MisterPenguin]

I mean, that's essentially what I said as one of my options too.

My apologies for missing that.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

. Even if it's some billionaire who wants to retcon the Force as a manifestation of Thetans.

My secret Bahamian based hedge fund…Mi-D Chlorians Partners…is preparing a bid to do just that

 

[BrianLo]

It’s not a conspiracy…it’s that anything on Wall Street is subject to “things change” doctrine.

Disney fans are really clueless to the SEC. That isn’t a “violation”…it’s a financial tactic used every day without batting an eye.

They spin bankruptcies as “positive”

Let’s just see how it goes? Bobs under immense pressure. That last quarterly was PR designed crap and people celebrated it here…until you look at it.

By all means. But it was a comment made 65 days into a 91 day quarter about said quarter. Not a lot of leash there.

I’m surprised based on what he is saying about WDW. But they’ve splashed it on their investor page.

And actually Bob has lied before, I know this fully. He lied about SDL’s cost over runs. I’m aware of his ability to mislead. But this would be more flagrant. And really your argument is very precariously placed, I wouldn’t really double down on this one.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I can’t imagine how exhausting this must be for you to be so emotionally invested in a catty fight between a bunch of billionaires over the fiscal stewardship of a decreasingly relevant entertainment conglomerate.

I like Disney. I’ve liked it my whole life. I like Marvel and Star Wars and Pixar. I LOVE the parks and I’ve been very sad about the direction they’ve taken for the last decades.

I criticize Disney because I want to see Disney get better. I don’t want to see its deterioration accelerate, which is the best case scenario for a Peltz win. I’m not looking for schadenfreude. I disagree with Iger but I don’t feel he’s spited me personally and I need revenge. I’m not trying to destroy my political enemies.

I’ve never asked another poster this but… if you feel the things in your post, why the heck are you here?

 

[BrianLo]

I’ve never asked another poster this but… if you feel the things in your post, why the heck are you here?

 

[Tha Realest]

I like Disney. I’ve liked it my whole life. I like Marvel and Star Wars and Pixar. I LOVE the parks and I’ve been very sad about the direction they’ve taken for the last decades.

I criticize Disney because I want to see Disney get better. I don’t want to see its deterioration accelerate, which is the best case scenario for a Peltz win. I’m not looking for schadenfreude. I disagree with Iger but I don’t feel he’s spited me personally and I need revenge. I’m not trying to destroy my political enemies.

I’ve never asked another poster this but… if you feel the things in your post, why the heck are you here?

Love and hoping for the best is one thing.

Casting a proxy battle (which, incidentally, finally spurred the company into taking needed corrective action) as an existential crisis is a highly emotional reaction, and your continued framing of this a Manichrean struggle between absolute good and evil takes on the appearance of a religious fervor.

Dial it down a notch. It’s a bunch of billionaires picking fights that don’t care about ANY of us.

 

[Casper Gutman]

That always goes back to the same thing:

That last trip to port orleans was so great…that Disney is flawless

Whatever the nametag says

To say there’s room for improvement somehow tarnishes it?

Low rent groupthink from hell

This is a lie and you know it’s a lie.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is a lie and you know it’s a lie.

Maybe it is for you…

But I’ve been around the block for decades and drug through the gutter by a deranged alley cat…

…so my own council…will I give…on who is to be trained.

a certain entertainment company did allow me access to their information for a brief time…and you know why? To analyze consumer spending habits and look for ways to steer them. True story.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Love and hoping for the best is one thing.

Casting a proxy battle (which, incidentally, finally spurred the company into taking needed corrective action) as an existential crisis is a highly emotional reaction, and your continued framing of this a Manichrean struggle between absolute good and evil takes on the appearance of a religious fervor.

Dial it down a notch. It’s a bunch of billionaires picking fights that don’t care about ANY of us.

Does it occur to you that perhaps all these unlikely folks voicing support for Iger despite their distaste for him… the near unanimity of voices from Wall Street and the entertainment industry… is because this fight does have, at least potentially, existential ramifications?

I know we all love our normalcy bias… nothing ever really changes and history never actually happens. But maybe that’s clouding our vision a bit?

And no one here… absolutely NO ONE… is casting Iger as “absolute good.” Almost every poster advocating for him here has spent YEARS on this board criticizing him. That doesn’t change the fact that right now, in this fight, he’s the much better option.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Two other parks are co-owned. Yes they make half money off them, but they were also previously half in the hole for Hong Kong. Then we’ve got to sprinkle in DCL… which is niche, but not completely immaterial.

Disney actually gets more than half. Disney’s cut of profits from the joint ventures comes after the joint venture has paid expenses to Disney for things like licensing, design and operations.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Maybe it is for you…

But I’ve been around the block for decades and drug through the gutter by a deranged alley cat…

…so my own council…will I give…on who is to be trained.

a certain entertainment company did allow me access to their information for a brief time…and you know why? To analyze consumer spending habits and look for ways to steer them. True story.

This is a small board. For the most part, we recognize one another’s posting style and opinions. You know that most of your opponents in this discussion have been on here for years criticizing almost every move Iger has made in the Florida parks in cutting, insightful ways. In fact, that’s why they’re here - this board is unique for being quite critical of Disney. Yet you feel the need to consistently mischaracterize them, to dismiss them because they are capable of nuance and don’t share your blind rage. At the very least you need to cut that out. If you wanted to go a step further, you might consider why informed posters who have been on “your side” for years are now telling you you’re way off base.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Love and hoping for the best is one thing.

Casting a proxy battle (which, incidentally, finally spurred the company into taking needed corrective action) as an existential crisis is a highly emotional reaction, and your continued framing of this a Manichrean struggle between absolute good and evil takes on the appearance of a religious fervor.

Dial it down a notch. It’s a bunch of billionaires picking fights that don’t care about ANY of us.

…I mean…close the thread…

Nobody can beat Manchurian

And how did that come about? The boards
The faux imagineer/“I know people”/podcaster types heard “jay Rasulo” and went bezerk with superfluidity

…also the same types that don’t get D’Amaro is the same type from central casting

 

[Drdcm]

Have you blocked out the memory of how poorly received the prequel trilogy was?

SW films under Disney did as about as well as under Fox.

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Did you make that spreadsheet or find it somewhere? If you made it, your commitment is impressive.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Did you make that spreadsheet or find it somewhere? If you made it, your commitment is impressive.

I've been keeping track over the years.

All in response to posts that "nobody liked Film X!"

And Film X actually made money and got good reviews.

Data is good.

And certain people made fun of my charts... until a film actually didn't do well, and all of a sudden, look who's quoting stats....

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is a small board. For the most part, we recognize one another’s posting style and opinions. You know that most of your opponents in this discussion have been on here for years criticizing almost every move Iger has made in the Florida parks in cutting, insightful ways. In fact, that’s why they’re here - this board is unique for being quite critical of Disney. Yet you feel the need to consistently mischaracterize them, to dismiss them because they are capable of nuance and don’t share your blind rage. At the very least you need to cut that out. If you wanted to go a step further, you might consider why informed posters who have been on “your side” for years are now telling you you’re way off base.

They’ll criticize it…to the point it ends at the “safe space” of not disrupting the way things are done.’

Y’all need a shove

It’s not “keep bob or the thing is dismantled and sold for scrap parts”

That’s the goal lines…it misses the entire field in the middle

People are caught up on what they think trian is…not the reason they’re involved and what it represents

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Did you make that spreadsheet or find it somewhere? If you made it, your commitment is impressive.

He’s not incorrect…but what’s missing is the backbone of Star Wars is its licensing might

And that is a different story

 

[WoundedDreamer]

Stepping in here for two seconds amidst what otherwise was an incredible and thoughtful post - shelving projects in the manner it's been done by Warners is absolutely not a good thing. It's not being done for quality control purposes but for Wall Street-driven purposes, and that's a danger to the art form in ways I don't need to articulate for a forum that understands the intrinsic value of storytelling. I have no reason to believe that should this tactic continue to be adopted that Disney (under Iger or otherwise) would have more integrity in pulling the trigger than Warners.

This is a totally fair take. Admittedly, my argument on this point wasn't that good. It was a little bit aggressive and not very convincing. The insinuation from my post is either you agree with me or you like "garbage." And that's not fair to those who see the issue differently.

I'll expand on my point here. You may still disagree, but it should at least give you better understanding of where I'm coming from.

I strongly ascribe to the Steve Jobs philosophy of brands as a bank account. Every interaction with a firm can either deposit or withdraw from the relationship. For example, if someone watches a Pixar film that is really good, that would make people love the Pixar brand more. In short, that would be a deposit into the Pixar brand bank account. If on the other hand someone sees a Pixar film that is not enjoyable, this would withdraw from the Pixar brand bank account. The more positive experiences with the brand (deposits) help people to love the brand. No company will be perfect, so always having a healthy amount of positives to offset any negatives is important.

Withdrawals should be avoided whenever possible. If that takes cancellation, reshoots, or rewrites it's worth it.

Your objection to this seems to be that always avoiding losers might actually hamper art and storytelling. Sometimes, taking a risk with something the studio believes is a loser, might actually net positive results. The studio doesn't always know what will succeed and what won't. It's a fair argument. I still lean towards mimicking the Pixar model of trying to weed out or rework expected flops, but you're not wrong that some classic films were considered duds by studio executives only to take the world by storm.

Cheers!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Stepping in here for two seconds amidst what otherwise was an incredible and thoughtful post - shelving projects in the manner it's been done by Warners is absolutely not a good thing. It's not being done for quality control purposes but for Wall Street-driven purposes, and that's a danger to the art form in ways I don't need to articulate for a forum that understands the intrinsic value of storytelling. I have no reason to believe that should this tactic continue to be adopted that Disney (under Iger or otherwise) would have more integrity in pulling the trigger than Warners.

Disagree…

All we’ve heard for a decade plus is “brand, brand,brand!”

The brand is the quality of the product…and bad product tarnishes it

It’s not the silly graphic at the front of the movie…
Ok…the marvel one I make except for…that’s cool. But if they take the shield toss out - they’re dead to me too