The time has come.....

[Enchantâmes]

I'd care but I'll be at DLR enjoying Carsland see ya!

 

[Californian Elitist]

^^^^^^^LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Hello readers.

The time has come to help us Bring The Magic Back to Walt Disney World.

Over at DL, the Disney customers were not content with a half-day Rizzo park. That's why they forced Disney to up their game. They got the pretty exciting DCA 2.0.

We've got DOMs. Removing an attraction and converting it to restrooms is cause for celebration. We'll be forever stuck with Rizzo.

 

[Hakunamatata]

Event cancelled. LOL....really L.O.L.

 

[wm49rs]

I'm going to throw a "In before the lock" while I still can. I mean, for this thread, not the FB page......


Well......

 

[Hakunamatata]

Over at DL, the Disney customers were not content with a half-day Rizzo park. That's why they forced Disney to up their game. They got the pretty exciting DCA 2.0.

We've got DOMs. Removing an attraction and converting it to restrooms is cause for celebration. We'll be forever stuck with Rizzo.

Is the Rizzo park the 5th gate. I have not seen anything advertised about it.

 

[Enchantâmes]

 

[ellie-badge]

No thread is complete without ponies.

 

[Lee]

I agree. I would of course like attractions as well (and they will come), but this investment in the infrastructure of guest experience is critical if Disney don't want to be left behind in a rapidly changing digital world.

If only "guest experience" was all there was to it.
Instead....Skynet, Disney style.

I can't and won't ever support the expenditure of a billion dollars on that nonsense. Just can't do it.

 

[wannab@dis]

If only "guest experience" was all there was to it.
Instead....Skynet, Disney style.

I can't and won't ever support the expenditure of a billion dollars on that nonsense. Just can't do it.

You don't have to support it. Spend your money elsewhere, but, please, when the same technology hits the streets at DL, don't support it there either. (oh wait, I bet the Glow ears are part of that same overall project)

I find it interesting that the same people that harp about no spending at WDW always overlook the spending that doesn't appeal to them and try to trash it before it's even complete. Same story, different decade.

 

[Clever Name]

I'm all for reserrecting old guest areas...I just don't know if I would consider tearing down the location of a previous attraction and replacing it with bathrooms is something I would consider "bringing back the magic." That's all...

How can it not be magical?

"The time has come," the Walrus said,
"To talk of many things:
Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax--
Of cabbages--and kings--
And why the sea is boiling hot--
And whether pigs have wings."

 

[wdwmagic]

If only "guest experience" was all there was to it.
Instead....Skynet, Disney style.

I can't and won't ever support the expenditure of a billion dollars on that nonsense. Just can't do it.

Skynet is everywhere - no escaping that. For theme parks WDW will be first, DL will follow, and then the rest will attempt it. I fully believe that Disney is doing the right thing to make sure they in a position to be in sync with what the world will expect of them from an information technology standpoint going forward.

 

[Lee]

You don't have to support it. Spend your money elsewhere, but, please, when the same technology hits the streets at DL, don't support it there either. (oh wait, I bet the Glow ears are part of that same overall project)

I find it interesting that the same people that harp about no spending at WDW always overlook the spending that doesn't appeal to them and try to trash it before it's even complete. Same story, different decade.

Don't worry, I will oppose the NextGen data-mining no matter where it ends up.
If I believed that the good aspects of NextGen outweighed the bad, I would certainly support it. However, that is currently not the case. Nothing to do with appeal, like building one ride instead of another. It is all about throwing a billion into an elaborate data-mining system, hidden behind some potentially cute little personalizations.

 

[Lee]

I fully believe that Disney is doing the right thing to make sure they in a position to be in sync with what the world will expect of them from an information technology standpoint going forward.

I don't understand how the world will be expecting Disney to use this tech to create a divisive, exclusionary class system. If they do...that's sad to me.
It is, from a guest standpoint, a waste of a billion dollars that could be better spent elsewhere.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

From what I have read about NextGen so far is beyond impressive, and has a lot more to it than ignorantly labeling it theme park "Skynet". This technology is costing a billion dollars, its more than a fastpass or ad's popping up on your smart phone. Look at this Disney Touche tech being developed with the purpose of turning the whole park into a virtual playground. That by itself has a amazing amout of possibilites that could be realized.

People will complain about it now, but wonder how they ever had fun without it within a year after it gets rolled out and knocks the socks off people.


Jimmy Thick- The proof is out there...

 

[The Empress Lilly]

It is, from a guest standpoint, a waste of a billion dollars that could be better spent elsewhere.

I thoroughly agree with all of your critcism of NextGenb, except for this.

NextGen is not a billion dollar wasted. It is a billion dollar investment that's expected to raise revenues by a substantial amount. It is not a plussing of the park, not an expense, like Carsland. The choice is not 'billon dollar NextGen' or 'billion dollar expansion', but 'billion dollar NextGen' or 'blanket increase of prices'. The billoin wouldn't have been spend elsewhere instead.

What Disney wants, is to gather as much information about you as possible, and price WDW accordingly. Want to be assured of a seat for Fantasmic -buy the dinner package. Ride the E-tickets - buy the package. Essentially, it is the monetarisation of lines, of scarcity, of guest time. Why let guests stand and hour inline when somebody in that line is willing to pay $500 to be front of line. And ten people wiling to spend $40 to wait only two minutes. And 100 people willing to spend $30 to wait only five minutes. What you need to do, is to find out who is willing to pay which price. Which is what NextGen can provide.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

From what I have read about NextGen so far is beyond impressive, and has a lot more to it than ignorantly labeling it theme park "Skynet". This technology is costing a billion dollars, its more than a fastpass or ad's popping up on your smart phone. Look at this Disney Touche tech being developed with the purpose of turning the whole park into a virtual playground. That by itself has a amazing amout of possibilites that could be realized.

People will complain about it now, but wonder how they ever had fun without it within a year after it gets rolled out and knocks the socks off people.


Jimmy Thick- The proof is out there...

This is true too. NextGen is a double-edged sword. It holds the promise of endless possibilities.

Jimmy Thick - NextGen? Pah! Linecutters already use a Jimmy Thick App to keep track of his whereabouts so they can flee to another park in time.

 

[Lee]

From what I have read about NextGen so far is beyond impressive, and has a lot more to it than ignorantly labeling it theme park "Skynet".

To put this as politely as possible, nothing I do or say here on the fine boards s done "ignorantly".

What you have read about NextGen is only the tip of an ugly iceberg.

 

[Lee]

I thoroughly agree with all of your critcism of NextGenb, except for this.

NextGen is not a billion dollar wasted. It is a billion dollar investment that's expected to raise revenues by a substantial amount. It is not a plussing of the park, not an expense, like Carsland. The choice is not 'billon dollar NextGen' or 'billion dollar expansion', but 'billion dollar NextGen' or 'blanket increase of prices'. The billoin wouldn't have been spend elsewhere instead.

What Disney wants, is to gather as much information about you as possible, and price WDW accordingly. Want to be assured of a seat for Fantasmic -buy the dinner package. Ride the E-tickets - buy the package. Essentially, it is the monetarisation of lines, of scarcity, of guest time. Why let guests stand and hour inline when somebody in that line is willing to pay $500 to be front of line. And ten people wiling to spend $40 to wait only two minutes. And 100 people willing to spend $30 to wait only five minutes. What you need to do, is to find out who is willing to pay which price. Which is what NextGen can provide.

When I say better spent elsewhere, I don't necessarily mean the parks.

Great and informative post. I hope many read and understand it.

 

[wannab@dis]

To put this as politely, nothing I do or say here on the fine boards s done "ignorantly".

What you have read about NextGen is only the tip of an ugly iceberg.

Then explain everything that you think you know to us. Let everyone hear it in one place instead of the continually dropped "it's EVIL" statements. My job every day is to collect information and "datamine" it for the needs of our company. Nothing notorious about it and the information we gather is used in decision making to better serve the clients (and ultimately consumers).

Of course, when "NextGen" is finished (at least the current phase since it will be a continual effort), we'll also have a specific claim to compare reality to. My guess, you don't have the full details - nothing wrong with that. More than likely only partial information, re-hashed multiple times as it passes through the grapevine and each time with conspiracy aspects exaggerated.