The Spirited Back Nine ...

TalkingHead

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This is required reading before posting on this thread ... or indeed posting on these boards:

http://fyeahjonathanlewis.tumblr.co...-was-really-like-working-at-walt-disney-world

(Before anyone asks, don't know this kid, but given his resume, probable only a degree of separation.)

Never worked at MK, but my experiences at Epcot attractions a decade ago tell me his stories about management are true.

A lot of us who have worked at WDW take it for granted, but it bears repeating: WDW management, by and large, does not give a (darn) about front-line CMs.
 

Unplugged

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Not sure about now, but I definitely remember riding Small World with a clipboard to mark what effects were broken. The problem was it's based off of the CM's knowledge. If an effect is broken since a CP started, they very well might not know it moves.

This explains the our dear departed Yeti. Considering how long he's been in the "disco years", most CMs there most likely don't even know he moved. Thus, every morning he passes the checklist with flying colors.

...disco strobe....Check!
 

BrerJon

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I did plenty of Cross-U's and job shadows. Are you trying to say I don't know what I'm talking about after 42 years working with Operators AND Front line cast?

I think it's more that the issues being discussed are very much a) things which have only really become major issues in the last decade or so and b) only affect front line CMs, such as the abundance of abusive and entitled guests, so only someone working full time on the front line today would realise how extensive the problems are.
 

Mike S

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Not sure about now, but I definitely remember riding Small World with a clipboard to mark what effects were broken. The problem was it's based off of the CM's knowledge. If an effect is broken since a CP started, they very well might not know it moves. I vividly remember arguing with another CP that the shadow Shiva was supposed to move (this was 2007).

I also know this is not a unique WDW problem. There are effects even on Forbidden
Journey that do not work and some TM's didn't know existed.
A recent trip this year was the first time I saw the face projection on Forbidden Journey in a long time. It was broken for quite a while. I had one ride where the audio was broken too. Definitely not just a Disney problem but I feel Universal has kept a better maintenance record recently.
 

BrerJon

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I'm guessing that person never regularly worked merge at a FP attraction with an hour+ wait...

You mean a Fastpass+ attraction with an hour standby wait where the Fastpasses can only be booked from an app or at a kiosk the other side of the park, oh and they had to be booked 30 days ago, didn't you know? And no, you can't skip the line because you rented an ECV to save walking, oh and it doesn't matter how much your kid stands on tip-toes they're not going on the ride where they might die.

Ah, it must be quite a life.
 

the.dreamfinder

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Random, crazy, sort of conspiratorial thought: Could Lasseter be directing Toy Story 4, which is pretty much guaranteed to bring in a bucketload of money, be a way to try and rebuild slipping influence? Just seems odd that suddenly his only ideas that he considers exciting are sequels.
Passage from Creativity Inc.
John proceeded to deliver the most heartfelt and emotional speech I had ever heard him give. He started by talking about candor, and how we spend a lot of time at Pixar talking about its importance. But candor is hard, both to deliver and to receive. He knew this firsthand, he said, because in preparation for Notes Day, the organizers had shared something else that had come in to the electronic suggestion box: A fair amount of feedback had focused on John himself, and not all of it was positive. In particular, people were upset that— because he was now splitting his time between two studios— they were seeing less of him. The bottom line was that they missed him, but they also felt that there were ways that John could better handle the inordinate pressure he was under.
John admitted that this hurt; still, he wanted to hear all of the specific criticisms. “So they prepared a list,” he said. “I thought it would be a page. Instead, I got two- and- a- half pages.” Among the things he learned: John was so tightly scheduled, and meetings with him were so precious, that people tended to overprepare to see him, which served no one. In fact, John said, “there were a lot of notes about my time management, and how I carry the emotion of one meeting into the next, making some people ask, ‘Why is he upset at us?’ I didn’t know I was doing any of this, and those two- and- a- half pages were really tough to read. But it was so valuable for me to hear, and I’m already working to correct those things.”
 

Nubs70

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TalkingHead

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You mean a Fastpass+ attraction with an hour standby wait where the Fastpasses can only be booked from an app or at a kiosk the other side of the park, oh and they had to be booked 30 days ago, didn't you know? And no, you can't skip the line because you rented an ECV to save walking, oh and it doesn't matter how much your kid stands on tip-toes they're not going on the ride where they might die.

Ah, it must be quite a life.

Exactly. Sounds like the most magical time ever.

I mean, working FP attractions wasn't fun before FP+. With FP+, I'm guessing it's positively wonderful for the CMs.
 

aka_emilicious

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You mean a Fastpass+ attraction with an hour standby wait where the Fastpasses can only be booked from an app or at a kiosk the other side of the park, oh and they had to be booked 30 days ago, didn't you know? And no, you can't skip the line because you rented an ECV to save walking, oh and it doesn't matter how much your kid stands on tip-toes they're not going on the ride where they might die.

Ah, it must be quite a life.
Oh you mean Peter Pan? Been there, done that, and heard the gamut of insults (and on an off day insulted a guest. Oops)
 

MarkTwain

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Random, crazy, sort of conspiratorial thought: Could Lasseter be directing Toy Story 4, which is pretty much guaranteed to bring in a bucketload of money, be a way to try and rebuild slipping influence? Just seems odd that suddenly his only ideas that he considers exciting are sequels.

Wondered the same. Kind of how like how some suspect Stanton took up Finding Dory right after the John Carter debacle... gotta rebuild cred somehow and a few billion off a hit sequel is quick way to do it.
 

ford91exploder

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WDW1974

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Original Poster
Some Spirited Links to Disney's Earnings Report:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiem...as-fourth-quarter-earnings-meet-expectations/

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102142703

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/11/06/disney-q4-earnings/18622225/

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-disney-earnings-20141106-story.html

I really have no comment beyond them being about what I expected and, as usual, say nothing about the underlying strength of various business units.

I am sure @ParentsOf4 would love to come in and take apart the numbers, most especially in P&R where almost all gains were attributable to increasing prices (in other words, the same tired tale we've all heard before).
 
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