THE DISNEY PLEASURE
The concept of a guest judge creating their own "mini-project" is a really cool idea.
@JokersWild , I'm happy you're able to take part in the prompt even if not part of the competition!
A river cruise is a really cool twist on the Cruise Ship prompt. First, it's unique, second Walt callbacks are the best, and third, the limited size gives you a justification for detailing it, instead of planning a massive ship with one person and only getting to parts of it.
Everything here feels very “quaint” and it gives you the feeling that is a ship by Walt Disney, not Disney the mega-corporation. There are still references to Disney (Princess and the Frog) but they all fit very well.
The only issue I can find is the concept is unrealistic. But the concept is also great.
DISNEY ADVENTURE
Team Tomorrow brought it again this week. There was a strong “core” this round, consisting of
@gam3rprincess,
@D Hindley,
@Disneypugs., and
@Evilgidgit, who were frequently posting their ideas and comments. The teamwork shined this round, to the point where some teams were working to the bell you guys were basically finished seven hours early!
The theme is fantastic: thinking about it, SEA is screaming for a cruise ship theme. It’s something I hadn’t thought of while writing this prompt and I’m happy it’s come up now. But I was initially a little worried you guys would end up just calling the ship “SEA” and leaving it a generic ship. I’m impressed with the subtle blendings of modern ship with steampunk, truly making your ship “themed”.
One thing I loved was choosing to keep the ship smaller, not larger. These win you some realism points! For such a radical design, it makes sense to purpose your ship with a smaller audience in mind. I’ll expand on the audience a little later.
Your presentation is nice (even if it lacks reading music). I like changing it up stanza by stanza, and a Google Slides worked well for mimicking the Disney Cruise Line Site! My only question concerns the layout of your slides. The structure goes: Entertainment, Lounges, Dining, Attractions. I would have preferred a deck by deck design, to get a better feel for what goes where. Those maps at the end were amazing for cohesion, I wish they were incorporated more into the project.
GRAND ENTRY LOBBY
A solid introduction for guests into the themed ship. I like how you are incorporating the SEA characters into the story as meet and greet characters. That being said, I also think you should have used Mickey and friends. Does it fit with SEA? No! But I can’t help but imagine casual guests will be disappointed to find no Mickey on a Disney Cruise, aside from a Halloween party. They might have known there would be an 1800s theme, but they were still expecting Disney characters.
This is all a minor gripe, though. It would be easy to add on these characters every now and then, and in subtle places so as to not disturb the primary SEA storyline.
DISNEY ADVENTURE STATEROOMS
Splitting the themes up by deck is a cool idea, and it fits well with SEA’s explorative nature. My one nitpick revolves around picking the Phoenicians as one of the six cultures. Forgive me if I’m mistaken, but I can’t seem to find anything unique about them with Google. A more ancient Egypt based around Carthage. Given you only had six choices, I would have recommended Ancient Rome or Maya. But again, nitpicking.
WALT DISNEY THEATER
So about 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea…. you had me with the puppets. I had a great experience on my last cruise,
where they had a broadway-quality musical starring some insane puppets. With Disney budget, I can only imagine what they will produce.
Enchantment is a smart way to utilize Mystic Manor. It’s a cool story that’s helped define SEA, but throwing the ride onto the ship wouldn’t make much sense. Turning it into a show is smart.
Last, Peter Pan. This doesn’t fit with SEA as much as the others, but considering it is still a “Disney Cruise” I think it’s fine. I’d have recommended using your “non-SEA” show on more an audience favorite like Frozen or Mickey (relatively speaking, of course, Peter Pan is still very popular).
ONE LITTLE SPARK: AN AUDIENCE WITH FIGMENT
Yes.
S.E.A.SONAL ACTIVITIES
That pun.
But jokes aside, seasonal activities are a good inclusion. I just wish you’d given us a bit more information regarding when these events are. Only Halloween and Christmas? A whole show might be unlikely. Many hours practicing for only once a year. Perhaps drawing out the Halloween event to every “week before Halloween” in the entire month of October, and Christmas to every “week before Christmas” following Thanksgiving.
DINING
Typically, a cruise ship has two “primary restaurants”: the dining room and the buffet. This project is lacking in the main restaurant. The Adventurer’s Club is strictly Asian and African, the Lost Temple Table I assume Indian, and Zephyrs France. These are great in it of themselves, but overall it may become very annoying for guests who want your typical dining food.
The Party Lounge alleviates this issue a bit, but it’s a buffet. This may result in just about every family going here with nowhere else to go. Something as simple as a Victorian Steakhouse (safe food, but more formal than the buffet) would help alleviate some very exotic menu options. Keep in mind the burgers and pizza are going to be poolside, an area mainly for snacks and lunch, not dinner.
The Disney Magic has the “Animator’s Pallette” and “Rapunzel” as their “standard dining”. As you can see on the menu, there’s a lot of safe options (maybe too many, tbh) but they do it because they understand many families are coming on this trip and they will have to appeal to them.
The Disney Adventure isn’t as child-catering as the rest of the fleet, but it is still flying the Disney banner and will undoubtedly see many families flock aboard. To that, it seems they are stuck in the Party Lounge.
(Oh and the Zephyrs idea is super cool. As is bringing the Tiki Room aboard as Trader Sam’s).
ATTRACTIONS
You’ve expertly “balanced the entertainment with the standards of a Cruise Ship”. Ironically we wrote that aimed directly at your team. By reeling in the focus to only a few things, you’ve kept the spotlight on each part of the ship.
Diving Bell Explorations is your “e-ticket” from what I can gather. Good choice on reservations only, otherwise I could see the ship turning into a theme park. With virtual reality gaining traction and Smuggler’s Run a thing now, this is surprisingly realistic. Not even for armchair Imagineering. I could see Disney adding this to their current ships.
SEA Combat Training is definitely a wacky idea, but I could actually see a cruise pull this off. But instead of tournaments, I’d recommend using the cruise staff, possibly even scripting it to create a little narrative like the Jedi fighting Vader (but less obvious). Cruise staff typically make fun of themselves so I could easily see this turn into less actual fencing practice and more “let’s poke the Cruise Director with a stick!”
The “Enter If You Dare” Escape Room fits SEA like a glove. Although I do feel like you missed an opportunity to theme it to an Egyptian temple down on Deck 3. A more general treasure hunt works just as fine, though - I like how these attractions are self-contained and keep the focus on the cruise itself. Mystic Mini-Golf is also a solid attraction.
I am a bit confused with the “Junior Adventurer’s Club”. Did you ditch the youth department? Disney used to have separate lounges for age groups. I love the badge idea… but there should be different levels for children, tweens, and teens.
Albert’s Splash Trove is a great way to make pools less boring! You’ve still got the classic with the Discovery Pool, so it makes sense to build something more appealing to children (and let’s face it, most adults).
One question, why is there a Trader Sam’s both at his bar a few decks below and up at poolside? This isn’t shown on the map, so I assume it was a remnant of a former version, never deleted. Again, mostly nitpicking!
CONCLUSION
This is one of those projects you start intentionally looking for flaws because without it, your review would consist of the word “nice”. I might have digged a little deep into realism here, but it is important to consider all the long-term effects would be. Overall, the greatest nitpick I was able to find was the focus on more adults than little kids like most cruises, leading to little to no Mickey, largely exotic dining, and [insert third nitpick I couldn’t find] that may confuse general audiences. But I don’t even know if this is a problem. If given a more adult-friendly itinerary (such as Alaska over the Carribean) this would work wonders. And if we had to be in the Carribean these changes would be fairly minimal.
Regardless, the
Disney Adventure is my favorite ship of the three presented!
DISNEY ADVENTURE
Sees “it’s a small world” music for a 4-hour loop…
But really you were the only ones with reading music; have some free points.
The Ninja Turtles to the rescue! I was impressed by Yesterday’s resolve following their defeat last stanza. Under
@Tux ‘s leadership, you’ve addressed our big issue - the lack of cohesion - aimed to create one cohesive whole. I applaud your team for this reflection and improvement!
First the theme - “it’s a small world” is quintessential Disney. I love Tomorrow’s SEA idea, but that never really captures the same Disney spirit this does. This “theme” might fit Disney Cruise Line better than the standard Disney theme.
I loved adding the Mary Blair architecture into the smokestacks, transforming it into a floating “it’s a small world” that tricks all the drunk Carnival passengers that they’re in Disneyland so they end up walking overboard, therefore, causing the Carnival to delay and letting Disney take the prime spot in the port.
That being said, repeating the same presentation as last round is a tad uninspired. The site’s good, but you just did it last week. In the future, I’d recommend trying new methods of presenting: it can give your project lots of charm.
ACTIVITIES
Woah! You went the extra mile and described the entire show. This is impressive! I appreciate the balance between Musical Retelling (Sleeping Beauty) and an entirely new show, yet using established Disney characters (Disney Journey). The Disney Journey is a great use of all the characters to tell an original and engaging story. Moana, being the most recent and widely popular “princess”, is the perfect character to pair new character Charlie with.
THE CLUBS
Disney has used a three-club system for handling youths (as do most cruise lines). I don’t know ages 4-12 could be properly represented with singular activities. A minor nitpick.
The Gold Club sounds cool. I like how it’s on the same deck as the Egyptian cabins: gives the area a narrative flow.
THE ATTRACTIONS
I am grouping everything from the Black Forest Hollow Ice Rink to the Calendar Carrousel. These are all solid flat rides that create a sense of “fun” on your Disney trip. Given the vast size of this ship and Disney’s reputation for theme parks, I think this works well. I’m happy you’ve resisted the urge to add a roller coaster, that may have been overkill. But this strikes a great balance.
My only concern: where will they be? This isn’t mentioned much, and I would have to assume the deck because placing a flat ride right next to a hotel room is asking for trouble. But this then makes the “Neverland” pool deck a mish-mosh of all the various countries. Was this the intention? Or were they going to be on the same decks as the passengers?
@TheOriginalTiki great job stepping up with map work for the Neverland Pool!
SHOPS
I’m equally confused regarding the location of the shops. It is never mentioned. I’ll assume the “Main Atrium” of Decks 5-7, as that’s not been mentioned much and would usually have the shops on your standard cruise ship.
These shops are all very good. I like the common emphasis on mythological ideas. However, given the scale of this ship (you’ve opted to take on a large craft), there would probably be more retail options. You’ve already put in great detail to other parts of the prompt so I won’t ding off here, but if in a similar situation again, maybe write something along the lines of “There are many shops at the Disney Adventure, each tied to one of our visiting cultures. Here’s a sample of some of the retail you might find…”
HOTEL ROOMS
Again, wow! Great detail here. I’m impressed. Pi, the copying might be seen as annoying but it also mimics how they advertise a room. They are always trying to sell you that room as if its the greatest thing ever... until you look at the description of the next room with the exact same features but
MORE!
DINING
I could basically repeat my concerns with the shops for dining, except there’s more detail and some great menus here. Tux, you were an absolute beast with this (the only person to add menus, which is much appreciated), so I don’t blame you for missing a few of these minor things. I loved how knowledgeable this project was for its various cultures.
CONCLUSION
This is a vast improvement from the last round! You guys took our criticism and used to create a great project, and I’d say your only weakness was aiming too high. Of the three, it’s the best idea. Just in execution 4 players are tough. This could have easily fallen apart with 2 MIA and 1 left to fill everyone’s shoes… but you stuck together! Still, your limited number limited your grand aspirations to just some stellar snippets. Luckily, that’s not something you will need to be fixing the next stanza... we might add a few people to the Turtle clan…
Regardless, the
Disney Adventure is my favorite ship of the three presented!
DISNEY ADVENTURE
It’s kinda funny of the three Disney Adventures, yours is the only one that conveys the classic Disney “Adventure”. Using the Jungle Cruise company for cruising is a great idea!
I agree with Pi on the presentation. Compared to the others, a left-aligned Arial 12 no-outline Google Doc is lacking. I did like the “title card” images, but it messes with the outline. In the future, try writing a header and turning the text white, so it shows up on the outline but not in the actual project.
Concerning the appearance, there’s a bit of a “wall of text” but from what I can gather the ship will look like this?
But on a grander scale, with red and blue accents. This would certainly be a unique design for a cruise ship, and draw many eyes.The only issue I could see is it would go slower than usual, although I have no idea whether this analysis is true just that there’s probably many cruise ship engineers who have perfected the design to run as efficiently as possible.
I think using Moana as the main character works well. This is a Disney ship, so they will want to appeal to the masses while still providing a unique experience. Moana hits the perfect balance of Fantasyland with Adventureland.
MOANA: CALL OF THE OCEAN
As said before, using Moana makes a lot of sense. I like the inclusion of puppetry!
CELEBRATIONS
Both Trek’s Trashing the Deck and Pirate Takeover Night sound like fun events! One of the best parts of the “adventure” theme is how open they can be. You can include Moana, Lion King, and Pirates of the Carribean, which each take place in different time periods and continents, and they fit fine. This variation works well.
YOUTH CLUBS
So there’s already an “Oceaneer Lab” on Disney cruises, but this is different. This has an actual focus on Mary Oceaneer from SEA, and a general pirate theme. Having never been the actual Oceaneer Lab I had to look this up to realize the difference.
But really the youth clubs are all solid. I’m mostly nitpicking here because everything you’ve written I have no issues with.
An adventure course sounds like a ton of fun, and (why do I keep saying this) suits your theme well!
The Gardens of the World would be great at sea!
THE SAFARI GALLERY
Smart move bringing the virtual Jungle Cruise in. It ties perfectly to your story.
Tad confused with the treasure hunts. You mention they are an interactive experience so I assume it’s on a computer, but then you mention it’s around the ship. But later you say you “fend off enemies and tomb raiders”. How will that work?
Both mini-golf and the escape room are solid attractions for the ship. It’s very realistic: there are already many ships with these kinds of events and all Disney would have to do is add a light theme to each to stand apart.
DINING
The Sea Breeze Bar, Tropical Serenade Cafe, and Trader Sam’s all sound like fun places to eat. Skipper’s Canteen is also a great themed choice, as is the buffet and Walt Disney location. World of Color gives us more “specialty” cuisine, and Timon’s Bug Bar sounds interesting. I assume the snacks would be your standard pastries just shaped like bugs.
What I appreciated most, though, was the return of the Animator’s Palate. Which is funny because it's not really a good restaurant. But it is safe, and with so much “tropical” dining sometimes you need to appease the picky eaters of the family. Realism points there.
POOLS
All the pools are solid. My favorite is the Indian Elephant theme, subtle but would work very well. Maui is a smart choice for the kid’s splash zone. Ducktales feels a bit of a stretch here - there’s a lot of IPs on this boat - but it fits in.
What’s the difference between The Oceaneer Peace Reef and the Quiet Cove Pool & Schweitzer Falls? They sound like the same thing. I am probably missing something really obvious.
CONCLUSION
I’ve hit the conclusion and I don’t feel like I’ve started my review.
Everything you have mentioned here is solid. There are a few stand-outs, and then there’s some stuff that’s not exactly a stand-out but still contributes to the greater whole. I don’t have any real issues with what you proposed.
But there is significantly less detail than the other two teams. Shopping is never mentioned, nor is the size of the ship. The rooms aren’t described beyond “originally themed”. The project is lacking any visual or map, and it has only a few images.
This leads to the elephant in the room, activity. When all was said and done, the page count of each team’s PM was as follows:
Tomorrow: 16 pages
Yesterday: 13 pages
Fantasy: 6 pages
See the problem? Even the people that were active were less so than in the other teams. I won’t fault you for it because there’s a multitude of reasons why this happened: real-world activity, just your style of brainstorming. I’m just explaining why your project has so much less content than the others.
I do have to congratulate
@Disney Dad 3000 and all the other active members for pushing forward the final couple days and getting the parts you started finished. I just wish you’d been able to add more!
Regardless, the
Disney Adventure is my favorite ship of the three presented!