The Sorcerer's Apprentice Season 2: International Edition - Discussion Thread

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Voxel

President of Progress City
TOPIC CHANGE:
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Zweiland

Well-Known Member
Zweiland's critique of team Sea

SECOND STOP: VIDEO
I don't have anything negative to say about this. Great video, and great integration of the slogan!

THIRD STOP: TESTIMONIAL
Well... the way I see it, a rule violation occurred.
Please provide exactly 5 photos, including the 4 promotional posters and 1 screen-capture of the testimonial.
In the challenge, JDM clearly said "testimonial" (singular), not "testimonials" (plural). While it's great that you went out and got several testimonials (from a very prestigious group of people), you should have selected one in the end.

Also, I don't think all of your testimonial-givers were aware that this was a testimonial, not a critique. There is a big difference between those concepts. A testimonial does not usually entail something negative, and should help advertise your product. A critique can be either positive or negative, and is not usually given for advertising purposes. Almost all of your testimonial-givers actually gave critiques. In fact, WDW1974 specifically said the word "critique" in his, which implies that he was not informed of this important difference.

Tiggerish appeared to be the only one who understood the distinction between those two words. You should have just gone with her testimonial, at the end of her critique.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Zweiland's critique of team Sea

SECOND STOP: VIDEO
I don't have anything negative to say about this. Great video, and great integration of the slogan!

THIRD STOP: TESTIMONIAL
Well... the way I see it, a rule violation occurred.

In the challenge, JDM clearly said "testimonial" (singular), not "testimonials" (plural). While it's great that you went out and got several testimonials (from a very prestigious group of people), you should have selected one in the end.

Also, I don't think all of your testimonial-givers were aware that this was a testimonial, not a critique. There is a big difference between those concepts. A testimonial does not usually entail something negative, and should help advertise your product. A critique can be either positive or negative, and is not usually given for advertising purposes. Almost all of your testimonial-givers actually gave critiques. In fact, WDW1974 specifically said the word "critique" in his, which implies that he was not informed of this important difference.

Tiggerish appeared to be the only one who understood the distinction between those two words. You should have just gone with her testimonial, at the end of her critique.
Very fair commentary! Thanks!
 

Voxel

President of Progress City
Team Land:

POSTERS:
I loved your posters, they are beautiful posters and I am kinda want to put a black tarp of two of the posters I designed. I am very jealous of this work and its very well done.

VIDEO:
While I believe the video is very well done, I think it leans more towards the Disney Parks (Disneyland & Disney World) advertising. Its has the emotional music and the clips of families that want you to jump right in. While Euro Disney Typically jumps at you and talks to the guest are more direct about the commercial.

The year of celebration:
I love what you purpose for this year of celebration with the opening on Two new expansion, Remodeled shopping, remodeled Show for the Village, new business center, and a new nighttime parade. I love these ideas and would love to see them arrive in the Paris park. This being said I have a huge logistics problem with this that bothers me. While a large task force The Imagineers are spread thin as it is and your talking about multiple subgroups. Then your talking about a construction force that DLP hasn't seen since building the original park. Finally the amount of money for all of this to be done is a multi-billion dollar en-devour for a park that still in over a billion Euros of debt. While I know we are arm chairs it wouldn't have bother me if you hadn't said that all of this would be opening "this" year.

Over all I love this project, I like what you did to go above and beyond and while the logistics annoy me I would love to visit this celebration.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
OUR GOAL:

I love this format you guys have adopted. It's quite fitting, and makes your presentations easy to read. In fact, it makes me WANT to read it. It's a minor thing, but a great thing that you all have done with pretty much every presentation. It's predictable, but excellent.

In the words of Tony Baxter, "Disneyland is charming. Disney World is spectacular. Euro Disney is beautiful." And indeed it is.

Great way to open this. Whomever made that decision, made a good one.

Disneyland Paris is known throughout the world as one of the most beautiful Disney resorts. Its perfect combination of beauty and charm not only inspire, but keep guests coming back. We have attempted to capture the resort's uniqueness, beauty, and always-changing attitude in our 'A Whole New World' marketing campaign.

Keep up the good writing. Succinct, carries the topic well...makes me want to keep reading. Once again, very well done.

We were inspired by the words of Tony Baxter when creating our campaign. We wanted not only to encourage guests to discover new worlds within the parks, but also to unify the resort with other Disney resorts through the use of similar symbols. The most amazing part of 'A Whole New World' is that it invites the people of the world to gather in this one place and celebrate their different cultures, beliefs, and languages. We want to show people... a whole new world.

Well written, lets see where we go with this...

THE BRAND:
Our logo (visible in the corners of the posters and at the end of the commercial) represents not only the global unifying aspect of our campaign, but the world within a Disney resort. The logo depicts the flags of the world's countries coming together to form the head of Mickey Mouse. The font has a modern and sleek look, much like modern Paris. This font is used throughout our campaign and showcases the resort's uniqueness and connection to the modern world.

Unification of font is a solid choice, however your logo is not. This is not EPCOT, and Disneyland Paris Resort offers nothing like it, and isn't poised to do so (and probably never will, what is the attraction to locals?).

Had this been a world showcase challenge, I would be literally floored by this. But, as it stands, I don't see how your logo adds anything to your campaign, much less make sense to any of your original concepts outside of the fact that you hung your hat on Tintin (and no, I'm not disputing the IP with this comment, even though I still think that commentary is sound).

However, it is a great logo, so good job on that! It just doesn't "fit" with Disneyland Paris.

The logo created a foundation for the rest of our brand; in our posters the global theme is repeated in the border patterns. These patterns are designs taken from the different cultures of the world. The central font and logo are also present, showing its connection to the campaign, while the unique motto on each promotes different attractions guests will find in the resort.

Again, I think you confuse World Showcase with what is currently at DLRP, even with your Tintin ride added to Adventureland.

Remember, it wasn't just for us to focus on one challenge, but two. And, in my opinion (and I agree with your bias, because I LOVE Tintin) you all focused on merely challenge one, and largely ignored challenge two, as while your logo "fits" loosely with Tintin, it doesn't fit at all with your Challenge 2 submission.

What I mean by this, is...how can "a whole new world" be an "old world"?

It fits for Tintin, without a doubt, as his stories are all about discovery (not to quote my team) and intrigue. But...well, to do as you did, and quote who you already quoted...

"The Hollywood That Never Was and Always Will Be"

This is a land of the past, a glorified past, and you all did a fantastic job outlining that in your original post. But, how does that fit with a "Whole New World"? When really it's the "Dream Old World"?

That being said..."A Whole New World"...works quite well. And I did find it personally amusing we both chose to do "Glamour". I just didn't find it cohesive amongst your two battling concepts. It fits very well for Tintin, not so much for Challenge 2.

An overarching goal of the posters was also to show the world within the resort and encourage guests to discover it, and to showcase what is new coming to the parks. In this spirit, all four of the posters represent the additions that our team made to the resort in Challenges 1 and 2. These are the posters for the campaign, as well as French versions of them.

That's a tall statement. Lets see if it holds true.

New Tintin area in Disneyland Park:

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Ok, so you took a stock photo from your queue, slapped a border and a logo on it, and some text.

Yep...when I think Tintin, I think waterfalls. (mind you, I'm probably one of the few here who own all the Tintin novelles...

New Hollywood area in Walt Disney Studios:

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Same as the last comment.

New Dining in the Tintin area of Adventureland:

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So...Jharana Mahal. Nice choice, but poorly represented. Had I not read your first post, I wouldn't know what I was looking at.

New Special Effects Institute ride in Walt Disney Studios:

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I have no idea what this is from. Or what ride it references. It wasn't used in your first post (and is therefore the exception to the rule?).

For the commercial we wanted to create something that would inspire, unify, and promote the resort. To do this we selected the song 'J'magine'. J'magine translates to I Imagine. We felt as though this song not only captured the spirit of Disney, but also the spirit of the resort.

Nice song. I'm familiar with it.

Ok, so when I went to view your ENGLISH version, I saw "video removed by user"...and mind you, I'm an HOUR now after posting time.

That, is foul play, and really irritates me. (and please, save your "I don't know technology" crap for another conversation)...you don't get to edit after the final post without at least saying "hey guys, I'm gonna edit to clean up some typos") or something like that.

You sure a HECK don't get to remove the video.

(as a side note, if it's a DCMA takedown, post on liveleak...they don't have that crap, and you can still embed here).

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So, I'm gonna have to judge your French I guess because I didn't get to it until 60 minutes after your first post?

Wonderful...

Ok, so.

That's a great video. It's not a commercial / presentation (yep @Zweiland , I'm turning this around on you).

@Zweiland , you said we didn't stick to JDM's guidelines with one testimonial.

Well, you all made a 2 minute long tribute video with overlay text, and didn't stick to his requirement that it be a presentation of your concept, as well as a commercial. It's well done, the fades are nice, some of the edits are out of place, but it certainly looks like it took a lot of work. Kudos on it...

Aside from the fact that it's a tribute video, and NOT a commercial.

It's a great video (great job Sam), but it's severely lacking for this challenges requirements in that respect. I can quite the challenge as you did, but we've all read it enough to know I'm right.

THE YEAR:
The slogan 'A Whole New World' is also a statement on the plethora of new and exciting experiences for the guests of Disneyland Paris. With new attractions, entertainment and dining, this is a busy year for the resort. Furthermore, these additions will create 'new worlds' and experiences for our guests to enjoy.

  • An Adventureland expansion that features Tintin and his dog Snowy as they travel through the Enchanted Cavern of Apam Napat and the surrounding villages and forests [For more information, see Team Land's Challenge 1 Proposal]
  • An expansion to Walt Disney Studios that brings the glamour of Old Hollywood to life, from new attractions to parks, restaurants, and shops [For more information see Team Land's Challenge 2 Proposal]
  • A brand new nighttime parade that will bring Disneyland Park alive
  • New streetmosphere experiences that will give guests lasting memories and mementos that will last a life time
  • A brand new Business Park and Exhibition Center
  • A renovated Disney Village connecting it with the exhibition center, business park, and new mixed use centers
  • A brand new fountain and fireworks show for the Disney Village area
Parade- Worlds of Magic
With the new 'A Whole New World' campaign, we created a parade that will highlight the two major new additions to the resort. At the same time, we wanted to add an experience that would cap off a guest's day and encourage them to stay longer. Presenting, Worlds of Magic!

Opening: A Whole New World
As the parade starts, yellow lights illuminate the brims of the Main Street buildings. This segment celebrates Main Street USA, and includes large marching bands and energetic dancers. All of these performers are dressed in light-up, glowing costumes that are in-sync with the wonderful music. The marching band is playing a high-speed, percussion and brass infused variant of A Whole New World. The float featured in this unit is themed to a beautiful garden with a small rock perch on top where Mickey Mouse stands. After a while, fog machines envelop the area and the lights dim.

Adventurous Spirit
Under the fog, a lava-orange light appears. Tribal music begins to play. Once the fog clears, the Main Street parade actors have been replaced with indigenous tribes from the jungles. They are preforming traditional dances and tricks with fire torches. The source of the orange light was a fire pit, and the lights on the Main Street buildings are now green and brown. A huge float moves in, themed as a forest with plenty of greenery, as well as a waterfall. The float features Tintin with an animatronic Snowy, Jack Sparrow and other pirates, and Indiana Jones. As the music changes, this float joins the first one in the hub.

New Frontiers
Based off of the Tin Symphony from the Sydney Olympics, this segment celebrates Frontierland. The lights change to a reddish-brown color as miner and cowboy-themed dancers in light-up costumes enter, performing complicated routines for the guests that resemble tradition western dances. Some of them will be on horseback. The float will include an old mill, old houses, and an "exploding TNT" pyrotechnic effect. Sheriff Donald will stand guard among the tumbleweeds, cacti, and rock work.

Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow
This segment is themed to Discoveryland. There are energetic performers dancing around the street in futuristic costumes. Lasers flash Discoveryland's gold, green, and blue colors to sync with celebratory, futuristic music from the land. As the fog machines run, a large float with a steampunk appearance emerges. On the float, there is a city with Autopia passing through. Astronaut Pluto waves a banner that reads "Discovery Will Never End!" This segment will not only showcase the beauty and uniqueness of the land, but also the bright future that lies ahead.

Lights! Camera! Action!
This segment is themed after the new Hollywood area at Walt Disney Studios. It begins with the popular jazz song 'Sing, Sing, Sing' and whisks guests away into the Golden Age of Hollywood. Bright spotlights surround Main Street, as many different "Hollywood actors" dance along, getting the audience excited for a few minutes.. Soon spotlights shine to the sky, the music changes to "Hooray for Hollywood", and the float which has a miniature, but still large, version of the Chinese Theater, slowly rolls through. A "red carpet" is rolled onto the street. Dancers, reporters, and ‘movie stars’ in fancy outfits will participate in a unique dance and Hollywood premier, and some will walk down the red carpet. Chip and Dale will serve as directors, sitting in director chairs at the front of the float with the theater behind them. Ushers wearing Tower of Terror-style uniforms will walk down the street with the float, and roll up the red carpet from behind.

Dream Lands
This dream-like segment will encapsulate the magic of Fantasyland. Fog once again rolls out, as the laser lights change colors in the pattern of a rainbow. The projectors send an image of children sleeping onto the fog, and they begin to dream. The projected image then slowly morphs into the Castle, depicting how this is their dream. The fog rolls away, and here begins an extravaganza of fantasy and magic with the dream coming alive! Performers dance with giant banners and puppets, creating the illusion of magic in the air. Space and stars are projected on the building fronts. The final parade float rolls in. This float has a smaller version of the castle and field of grass, as well as many joyful Disney characters including Snow White, Pinocchio, and Cinderella. Aladdin and Jasmine soar in their magic carpet behind the real castle (using a crane-like support that cannot be seen in the lighting).

Together We Are One
This musical finale is set to the song of the same name by Delta Goodrem. Throughout the show each float has moved to the park's hub, and they now come together to become the stage of a huge musical celebration. This segment is a piece that all cast members in the show perform together, unifying the park and providing an exciting introduction to the already-existing fireworks show, Disney Dreams.

Streetmosphere
New streetmosphere experiences will be added such as Indian dancers in the Tintin area, Citizens of Hollywood in WDS, and the Mayor and Dapper Dans on Main Street.

Business Park and Exhibition Center
The Bob Iger Business Park and Tony Baxter Exhibition Center will encourage people to live and work in the resort and turn the resort into a place of universal congregation. Both of these areas will be located near Disney Village.

Disney Village refurbishments
The exciting Disney Village is getting a well-deserved make-over! With refurbishments of current facades and interiors, Disney Village will look brand new. In addition, some new experiences will be added. From apartments, shops, restaurants, and a high rise hotel, Disney Village will become an inviting and exciting place to visit and live.

A Whole New World of Color
Part of the 'A Whole New World' campaign emphasizes bringing various cultures together from around the globe. As part of the campaign, the fountain and fireworks show "A Whole New World of Color" will be coming to Lac Disney near Disney Village. Instead of highlighting popular Disney movies, like its California counterpart, WNWoC showcases cultures from every corner of the Earth.

Transportation expansion
We will be expanding transport options to access the park. For France and Europe the park will receive Eurail, and International E-road connections allowing for people all over the continent to come and visit.

Maintenance
The Disneyland Paris parks are well known as some of the most beautiful parks around the world, and have some of the best attractions. However, one common complaint among many visitors is that the parks are not kept up as nice, such as a broken light fixture, dirty walls, and/or malfunctioning sets. With this new promotion, one big, striving goal is to have the parks look better and be more kept up in that aspect, to become on par with other resorts and make the guest experience better.

I liked this added stuff quite a lot. You guys really went above and beyond here, and I applaud you for it!

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CONCLUSION
As you can see, a lot will be going on with the 'A Whole New World' campaign. From new attractions to new opportunities for business, in the end 'A Whole New World' will not only push the resort into the 21st century, but draw even more people in.

After she was shown a preview of our campaign and the resort additions, @@Nemo14 provided the following testimonial:

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Nice to see you went safe with someone who is always a positive person. (Yes, Zwei, I'm looking at you, she's my friend too, and we know her well...)

This week we combined our ideas to create a project we are proud of. We improved areas that needed improvement, we added things that needed to be added, and fulfilled all of what was required for us this week-- and more.

But we also grew as a team. Despite small debates or conflicting opinions, we all worked to our full potential and meshed our talents together to form a fantastic proposal. We appreciate you reading our submission, and thank you for your consideration.

This part is nice, but really, not necessary.

Great job Team Land!

This is gonna be close!
 

Zweiland

Well-Known Member
I love this format you guys have adopted. It's quite fitting, and makes your presentations easy to read. In fact, it makes me WANT to read it. It's a minor thing, but a great thing that you all have done with pretty much every presentation. It's predictable, but excellent.



Great way to open this. Whomever made that decision, made a good one.



Keep up the good writing. Succinct, carries the topic well...makes me want to keep reading. Once again, very well done.



Well written, lets see where we go with this...



Unification of font is a solid choice, however your logo is not. This is not EPCOT, and Disneyland Paris Resort offers nothing like it, and isn't poised to do so (and probably never will, what is the attraction to locals?).

Had this been a world showcase challenge, I would be literally floored by this. But, as it stands, I don't see how your logo adds anything to your campaign, much less make sense to any of your original concepts outside of the fact that you hung your hat on Tintin (and no, I'm not disputing the IP with this comment, even though I still think that commentary is sound).

However, it is a great logo, so good job on that! It just doesn't "fit" with Disneyland Paris.



Again, I think you confuse World Showcase with what is currently at DLRP, even with your Tintin ride added to Adventureland.

Remember, it wasn't just for us to focus on one challenge, but two. And, in my opinion (and I agree with your bias, because I LOVE Tintin) you all focused on merely challenge one, and largely ignored challenge two, as while your logo "fits" loosely with Tintin, it doesn't fit at all with your Challenge 2 submission.

What I mean by this, is...how can "a whole new world" be an "old world"?

It fits for Tintin, without a doubt, as his stories are all about discovery (not to quote my team) and intrigue. But...well, to do as you did, and quote who you already quoted...

"The Hollywood That Never Was and Always Will Be"

This is a land of the past, a glorified past, and you all did a fantastic job outlining that in your original post. But, how does that fit with a "Whole New World"? When really it's the "Dream Old World"?

That being said..."A Whole New World"...works quite well. And I did find it personally amusing we both chose to do "Glamour". I just didn't find it cohesive amongst your two battling concepts. It fits very well for Tintin, not so much for Challenge 2.



That's a tall statement. Lets see if it holds true.



Ok, so you took a stock photo from your queue, slapped a border and a logo on it, and some text.

Yep...when I think Tintin, I think waterfalls. (mind you, I'm probably one of the few here who own all the Tintin novelles...



Same as the last comment.



So...Jharana Mahal. Nice choice, but poorly represented. Had I not read your first post, I wouldn't know what I was looking at.



I have no idea what this is from. Or what ride it references. It wasn't used in your first post (and is therefore the exception to the rule?).



Nice song. I'm familiar with it.

Ok, so when I went to view your ENGLISH version, I saw "video removed by user"...and mind you, I'm an HOUR now after posting time.

That, is foul play, and really irritates me. (and please, save your "I don't know technology" crap for another conversation)...you don't get to edit after the final post without at least saying "hey guys, I'm gonna edit to clean up some typos") or something like that.

You sure a HECK don't get to remove the video.

(as a side note, if it's a DCMA takedown, post on liveleak...they don't have that crap, and you can still embed here).

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So, I'm gonna have to judge your French I guess because I didn't get to it until 60 minutes after your first post?

Wonderful...

Ok, so.

That's a great video. It's not a commercial / presentation (yep @Zweiland , I'm turning this around on you).

@Zweiland , you said we didn't stick to JDM's guidelines with one testimonial.

Well, you all made a 2 minute long tribute video with overlay text, and didn't stick to his requirement that it be a presentation of your concept, as well as a commercial. It's well done, the fades are nice, some of the edits are out of place, but it certainly looks like it took a lot of work. Kudos on it...

Aside from the fact that it's a tribute video, and NOT a commercial.

It's a great video (great job Sam), but it's severely lacking for this challenges requirements in that respect. I can quite the challenge as you did, but we've all read it enough to know I'm right.



I liked this added stuff quite a lot. You guys really went above and beyond here, and I applaud you for it!

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Nice to see you went safe with someone who is always a positive person. (Yes, Zwei, I'm looking at you, she's my friend too, and we know her well...)



This part is nice, but really, not necessary.

Great job Team Land!

This is gonna be close!
Love the critique, but don't have time to go through and respond to all of your points. I'll just leave you with a few bullet points:

  • Good point on the logo. I would argue that it does fit with the new fountain show we added, but that is a very small part of our campaign.
  • Old Hollywood is a "new world" for the people of Europe to explore, as they have not been exposed to it as much.
  • That stock photo was what we used in Challenge 1 for the facade of the Tintin ride. In this hypothetical situation, the guests would associate that with Tintin because it is a picture of the facade of the ride. Also, the picture references the Indian part of Adventureland as a whole, not just Tintin.
  • I can't argue for the Hollywood stock photo. However, we wanted to use real photographs or realistic art for all of our posters, so that was our best option.
  • The fourth one is an explosion from the Special Effects Institute in WDS, as clearly stated right above the poster.
  • Don't know why the video was removed. Ask Sam.
  • JDM said "a presentation/commercial", not "a presentation and commercial". This implies that we were given the option.
 

Sam Magic

Well-Known Member
I would like to take the time to adress various points made by Team Sea, because I believe clarification is necessary.

I normally am one to bite my tounge and hold back from saying anything when it comes to these things. As my teammates can testify I regularly ask my team not to say negative things about other teams because I think it is wrong. However, the critique I just read not only made my blood boil, but tipped me over and now I'm pouring out.

I would like to begin with the commercial, no where in the discriptions does Jdm say that our commercial must also be a presentation, he asked for a commercial reel that promoted our campaign. Something we did rather sucesfully, not only did the song for with our theme, but our text overlays did the same. It also WAS. a commercial reel (as was required) it was something that promoted the resort and new additions. Exactly what was required of this challenge.

Next I would like to clear some things up about our campaign as it seems some things did not get across. The brand was created to promote the many new additions coming to the park (Hence a Whole New World). Furthermore, the parks already feature input from various international cultures. From Adventurlands Asian/Middle Eastern vibe to the Glamour of Americas idealistic Hollywood. The brand was also created with politics in mind. Look at Europe today, despite the Cold War finished Europe is still divided. Look at France, the most nationalistic Party in Europe since WWII is slowly taking power. The FN is trying to pull France out of the EU and similar movements can be seen across the continent (just look at the results from this years EU elections). Our brand and campaign were designed with this in mind and is made to encourage Europe to unite together and learn more about each other. From the song Together We are One and the lyrics of I Bielieve we encourage Europe to unite.

Thirdly, the commercial was not taken down and this is proven if you look at my you tube, even the exact time it was posted. No edits were made after we posted it. Though we were having problems with it even in our PM. Jdm and all my teammates can testify to this. We hoped this would not happen, but it appears it did. To see the English version go to my YouTube account.

Finally, while I do believe all our projects have short comings, I also believe it is important to look at a projects bigger goal. Not only did we hint at the clarifications I have just made, but they were the core of our project. I do appreciate the critiques and feedback though...so don't get me wrong.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
I would like to take the time to adress various points made by Team Sea, because I believe clarification is necessary.

Thank you good sir.

I normally am one to bite my tounge and hold back from saying anything when it comes to these things. As my teammates can testify I regularly ask my team not to say negative things about other teams because I think it is wrong.

Fantastic! I also sit there and tell my team mates...no, NEVER think about what the other team did last challenge and how capable they are as a group. And, NO never have the audacity to have your own thoughts on their concepts, much less share them.

View everything as a personal insult, and go from there, because that is how you get ahead in life.

I'm so glad I am raising my daughter with such an enlightened mentality as well.

(also, for the record, here is my quote about your video...it was fantastic.

Really well done.)


However, the critique I just read not only made my blood boil, but tipped me over and now I'm pouring out.

Please, do.

I would like to begin with the commercial, no where in the discriptions does Jdm say that our commercial must also be a presentation, he asked for a commercial reel that promoted our campaign.

Actually, he uses a slash, which in english means that it's a combination of and and or and or "or" outright.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_(punctuation)

GIven his tone, we took it to mean he meant and/or. You all took it to mean "or" alone, and that is a valid concept (and I didn't say anything to the contrary).

Something we did rather sucesfully, not only did the song for with our theme, but our text overlays did the same.

Not sure what "song for with our theme" means, but we actually had OUR music called out in several revues / testimonials as one of the strong points of our presentation, as well as how the video played with it.

It also WAS. a commercial reel (as was required) it was something that promoted the resort and new additions. Exactly what was required of this challenge.

Really. So, what original art did you display? Or was it all snakes from existing Disney or other videos?

We animated OUR OWN COMMERCIAL.

We broke it down, and made it a reality. You all just stole stuff from other websites and made a fantastic (as I said then, and I'll say again) tribute video.

Next I would like to clear some things up about our campaign as it seems some things did not get across.

Please do.

The brand was created to promote the many new additions coming to the park (Hence a Whole New World).

WHAT brand. The DISNEY brand? You communicated nothing. And this certainly wasn't a "new brand", rather a shallow rehash of an existing one.

Furthermore, the parks already feature input from various international cultures.

Do they. Like what? What is World Showcase at DLP. Please, enlighten me.

From Adventurlands Asian/Middle Eastern vibe to the Glamour of Americas idealistic Hollywood.

So, in other words, two parks (WDW/Disneyland and the old MGM at the time) copied poorly and shoved together...ok...yeah, that represents Bulgaria well. I'm so glad the EU agrees.

The brand was also created with politics in mind. Look at Europe today, despite the Cold War finished Europe is still divided.

Oh, please keep going...your idiot friends may agree with this, but I grew up in Cold War Europe. Please, feed me more. We did make a greenhouse on Air, you know...FEED ME SEYMORE!

Look at France, the most nationalistic Party in Europe since WWII is slowly taking power.

No comment.

The FN is trying to pull France out of the EU and similar movements can be seen across the continent (just look at the results from this years EU elections).

No comment.

Our brand and campaign were designed with this in mind and is made to encourage Europe to unite together and learn more about each other. From the song Together We are One and the lyrics of I Bielieve we encourage Europe to unite.

This is the most stupid conclusion I have read in months. But, you believe it, so it must be true, right?

Thirdly, the commercial was not taken down and this is proven if you look at my you tube, even the exact time it was posted. No edits were made after we posted it.

If you took a moment to get off your "offended" high horse, you'd realize I realized this, and gave you a hint as to how to prevent it.

Though we were having problems with it even in our PM.

Once again, no reason to share this publicly. Though, I'm not surprised.

Jdm and all my teammates can testify to this. We hoped this would not happen, but it appears it did. To see the English version go to my YouTube account.

Lets not get into the "you don't know how it works" trope. I know the internet far better than you will ever dream to, mostly because I don't have a life.

Finally, while I do believe all our projects have short comings, I also believe it is important to look at a projects bigger goal. Not only did we hint at the clarifications I have just made, but they were the core of our project. I do appreciate the critiques and feedback though...so don't get me wrong.

I read all this, and was left mostly confused with ad homs (look it up) and useless statements.

But, I still say (as I said before you were so righteous), Team Land, you all did a great job! This is gonna be tough!
 
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Zweiland

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I lied about not saying anything else.Two more:

-And/or still has the "or" in it. Earlier you said it was one of JDM's "requirements" that the video be part presentation, which is obviously not true.
-Where did you give him a tip about how to prevent the Youtube video from not working? I don't see that anywhere.
 
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