The Sole Imagineer Season 2: Redemption Island

RMichael21

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@spacemt354...Just...wow.

I honestly had no idea you harbored so much resentment and animosity. If what you're trying to do here is make me feel as bad as I must have made you felt to begin with, job well done. I feel terrible about the whole situation and am ready to outright leave the community if you guys don't want me around any more.

I guess I'll go through this piece by piece. On the lying thing...It's Survivor. Everyone lies. I just happened to get caught in more of them than the other two people I'm sitting next to. That's what happens when you're hosting a podcast talking about a strategy game you're actively involved in. It gives people easy and ample opportunity to compare notes which is why the Tribal Council podcast has always put me at a disadvantage.

Having said that, I think it's a bit unfair to quote me out of context on the "not going to lie" thing. I'm CERTAINLY not lying about the thing I was actually talking about in that quote...being the least appealing of the final three.



Ohh boy. You really want to drag my personal conversations into it. If you remember them so vividly, then what I was talking about is the precise reason why I fail at this game so hard pal...

I CAN'T MAKE FRIENDS IN REAL LIFE. I AM ENTIRELY UNLIKABLE. I DRAW PEOPLE AWAY FROM ME. I HATE MYSELF FOR IT.

I don't know how much more I can draw it out for you. There's a BIG reason why I have no friends. I am simply IMPOSSIBLE to be around. My autism makes it that way. You want to talk about my autism...THAT is the reason I take these games the way I do. That is why I get so deep into the strategy.

I went to you in private as a friend because I still firmly believe that I'm a hard guy to get along with in real life...unless you've known me online before meeting me in person and thus are already used to my quirks...Hi MEW and Monkey! Just meeting "Tiki" the actual unemployed autistic man child 25 year old obsessed with Disney when you have no context behind me is about the most unappealing person you're liable to walk into if you're just minding your own business. People genuinely AVOID me at school and there's some people that strongly personally dislike me. I am an incredibly unlikable person to some due to the quirks that arise in my autism.



And here you're basically throwing the fact that I'm unlikable right in my face. Yea, I'll admit I get really jealous when I see people make friends super easily and when everyone seems to like them. I'm NOT that person. I'll NEVER be that person. The friendships I make take a lot of time and nurturing to develop, and most of the time due to poorly timed panic attacks even those blow up in my face. I've literally had nightmares about having a panic attack in front of Monkey and him wanting nothing to do with me after I met him in person last month.

Now as far as people knowing how much of a liar I am...That is something else I've got to at least assign a bit of blame on the podcast for. Like I said, the podcast clearly put me at a disadvantage both as a clear venue for people to compare my strategic notes and as an outright display of how cut throat I was willing to get.



Can I answer your question. THIS is by far the biggest strategy move I regret in the game. I should have never taken the trust issue to a personal level considering I was about to break it. That was me being wrapped up in the moment and genuinely being a selfish A-Hole about the whole situation. For that I can't apologize enough.



That's one of the reason I'm retiring as a player after this season. I can dish it, but I can't take it. You're absolutely right about that. I have some pretty severe emotional problems I still need to work past and this game absolutely brings out the worst of my personality. I never wanted or meant for anyone to get hurt in the process, but if that's the case then I'm truly sorry for my actions.

I'm also strongly considering taking the murder mystery element out of SYWTBAI season 13 or at least reworking it. I want to do something "spooky" for the 13th season but it shouldn't come at the expensive of creating an in-game atmosphere that's thick with paranoia.



Do you know the definition of Autism? It's basically having a very narrow view of certain things that you're incredibly passionate about and disregarding other things. I obviously had a narrow, short sighted view on my actions this season and I only have my horrible disease to blame for that.

Exactly how did I handle the situation that was soooo immature, outside of bluffing with trust issues that I've already apologized for. Was it the fact that I did the TSI podcast on the ONE time that weekend I'd actually be able to get it out and you still think I somehow purposely ignored you in that process and deliberately didn't let you have a final say on the podcast? You need to get over that because that is NOT how it played out. I had a super busy weekend, DSquared was available when I asked on the ONE time I was available who else was. It's as simple as that. I really didn't mean to snub you from coming on the podcast and I'm sorry you have such strong feelings over what was essentially a misunderstanding.

And it's Survivor dude. Of course you should have a bit of personal responsibility in putting your faith in me to begin with. I do have a track record and a play style that you were well aware of before aligning with me. I also very rarely take personal connections into the equation of a strategy game where you're trying to knock out other people who have a better shot at winning than you do. I think some of this residual bitterness might come from the game itself and not so much my own actions. Which I understand. Survivor is a BRUTAL game from a mental standpoint and I've certainly had enough of it myself after your speech.

Like I said, if I had to do one thing over it would be not guilt tripping you about trust when I was about to stab you in the back. That was the one thing this season I can point do as being the morally WRONG thing to do and I should have never antagonized you. Your'e absolutely right in that I was stepping outside of the parameters of the game at that moment.

To answer the group question...I would have not put all the other IPs into the Ratatouille project if I could go back and change it. I discussed this at length in the podcast, but there was a moment about a third of the way into writing the E ticket when I realized this whole crossing over with like five other movies was NOT going to work. I had a strong foundation built with the shipwreck and designing a primitive Paris. I'm curious how well that would have turned out if I would have stuck to that.
Man, what a lively Imagineer's council :p

But in all seriousness Tiki. No one wants you to leave the community. No one on here hates you. We all think your fantastic, both as a person and as an Imagineer. :)
 

DinoInstitute

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@IDInstitute, your next!

As last season's winner, I'm going to be frankly honest with you. The elephant in the room is that it's not the best situation to have the same person win the only seasons of a competition twice. I'd say that this is really the only thing going against you at this point. So, my questions... What do you consider to be your best moves, both creatively and strategically? In addition, how did you shed your past stigmas from the original season of The Sole Imagineer to once again make it to the finale? How did you manipulate/control others to keep you around long enough, and even put you in a position of power. I ask because I honestly thought that you would be one of the first to go, due to you winning last year.
And lastly, the host, RM! Hello!

First, I just want to address something like I did with DS... I know the elephant in the room like you said is that I already won, but I don't think that should be considered a negative. Having won already and making it back here shows my strength in the game, could overcome being a target, and IMO could be a really neat thing to have a two time winner. I can come back for season three and try to keep the streak alive :D :hilarious: :p ;)

Anyways, to your questions and stuff...
-Creatively I think my best move was trying to take presentstion to a whole new level. I know this was a goal of myself, Red, and space to make some of the best projects presentstion wise this season like SA2, and I think between pioneering a new type of interactive maps, working on my sites skills, and pushing my art I was able to do this and get some high placing or winning projects. Strategically, my best move was probably establishing trust with Tiki. The possible tension between us could have caused many problems between us down the road, but finally making an effort to show I was happy to align despite last season and is able to work with each other was probably my best move as we were able to strategically mastermind once again, this time the end game ;)
-I knew my stigma as a winner could be a problem. But I actually did something different than you might think- I didn't try and shed the stigma as winner, but rather embrace it. Because the game starts in a team based format, having the impression of being a strong player helped me stay around an be an important team member. Then, I was able to use that to make some good side alliances with people. Once we got later in the game, I don't think the stigma meant as much as it did earlier on as we created new impressions in this season.
-I think the key difference between my manipulative/strategic game and Tiki's is that I tried to have a more social game. Before I would try to align with people I wanted to establish a strong connection first, and doing that made people more willing to align closely. I think this was a good part of my strategy from both seasons, and even if I end up losing, in glad I employed it as I have a lot more closer friends here in the community :D
 

RMichael21

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This isn't the kind of liveliness I wanted though...because now I'm just annoyed and frustrated about it.

I thought everyone was on the same page? Especially since the 3 finalists are all Survivor fans...they know what final tribal council is all about.

If I knew this was going to happen I would have just asked a simple question and voted with where I was going to anyway.
That's what I thought would happen as well. Especially with them being survivor fans, I was pretty sure they would be able to understand where we were coming from. Well, I guess it's time to vote!

Jurors, please cast your votes in your voting booth PMs.
 

DinoInstitute

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And just as a closing statement... I just wanna say that I think I deserve to win based on both strategy and imagineering, as I have the most immunity wins and some of my strongest strategic game yet by putting my extensive Survivor knowledge to the test ;) And lastly, I think the sole factor of my winning my previous season shouldn't be discounted, as it just goes to show how I've played a strong game both seasons. Overall, I just wanna thank everyone involved from all other 15 contestants to our wonderful host! It's been a really fun season and quite crazy, and lets end this season with a fun bang! :D
 

DinoInstitute

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That's what I thought would happen as well. Especially with them being survivor fans, I was pretty sure they would be able to understand where we were coming from. Well, I guess it's time to vote!

Jurors, please cast your votes in your voting booth PMs.
Last thing I'm going to say about this...just for clarification sake so nobody thinks I'm actually as much of a jerk as Tiki is making me out to be






I wash my hands of this.
Trust me it's fine, I think you guys were fine.
But I don't want this to be the way we end this season, with a dark and kind of personal/uncomfertsble note. I want this season to focus on the fun positives, so I say we just kinda move on from this...
 

RMichael21

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Last year I made a "bitter juror" video that was OBVIOUSLY tongue and cheek the whole way through and even came with a disclaimer that I basically believed none of what I was actually saying about IDI and Tcool. I don't think that's the same thing as brutally ripping apart all their character flaws like you did to me. I don't blame you for doing it, but I don't believe it was strictly in the spirit of having "good TV".

You pointed out some genuine holes in my character and some serious black spots in my personality, and it's hard for me to confront those elements of myself. I'm not mad at you, I hope you're not mad at me, but suffice to say I was thrown off guard by just how vehemently you attacked my personality. If it WAS all in a tongue and cheek way than I genuinely apologize, but I certainly read your speech as having an air of "tough love" behind it and you spoke some hard but accurate truths about me as a person that I'm still licking my wounds over...mostly because of how SPOT ON you were in a lot of what you had to say.
Seriously Tiki, just put it to rest. Before everyone becomes even more uncomfortable than we are right now.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Space and I have been talking over the last hour and suffice to say I feel HORRIBLE for bringing such negativity into this game. There's things going on in my personal life right now that I don't want to get into, but I KNOW it wasn't Space's intentions to bring those up and I realize it was all in the spirit of good TV. I'd like to apologize PROFUSELY to @RMichael21 for once again bringing an un-needed air of uncomfortable drama into the game he's worked so hard to put on.

I've deleted my "jury response" video off of my channel and replaced all my responses to Space today with "I FOUND A LEMON TREE!". I truly hope we can all move on from my blunder and have a lot of fun with the winner reveal. I'm done throwing a giant pity party. Once again, a HUGE apology is in order on my end for bringing such hostility into what's meant to be a fun game. I still plan on retiring from TSI after this and helping RMichael on the side as a judge if he'll have me, and I also plan on reworking SYTWBAI so it's not so focused on creating an atmosphere of paranoia with the "killers" twist.

At the end of the day I just don't think I'm emotionally stable enough to play in a game like this. If there's one criticism Space gave me that I ABSOLUTELY agree with it's that I can dish it but I can't take it, and that makes playing with me insanely frustrating and hypocritical. That's the main reason I'm hanging up my torch after this season :)
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Space and I have been talking over the last hour and suffice to say I feel HORRIBLE for bringing such negativity into this game. There's things going on in my personal life right now that I don't want to get into, but I KNOW it wasn't Space's intentions to bring those up and I realize it was all in the spirit of good TV. I'd like to apologize PROFUSELY to @RMichael21 for once again bringing an un-needed air of uncomfortable drama into the game he's worked so hard to put on.

I've deleted my "jury response" video off of my channel and replaced all my responses to Space today with "I FOUND A LEMON TREE!". I truly hope we can all move on from my blunder and have a lot of fun with the winner reveal. I'm done throwing a giant pity party. Once again, a HUGE apology is in order on my end for bringing such hostility into what's meant to be a fun game. I still plan on retiring from TSI after this and helping RMichael on the side as a judge if he'll have me, and I also plan on reworking SYTWBAI so it's not so focused on creating an atmosphere of paranoia with the "killers" twist.

At the end of the day I just don't think I'm emotionally stable enough to play in a game like this. If there's one criticism Space gave me that I ABSOLUTELY agree with it's that I can dish it but I can't take it, and that makes playing with me insanely frustrating and hypocritical. That's the main reason I'm hanging up my torch after this season :)
Drama...:eek::p Glad it's settled
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IAmNotAHufflepuff

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I know the dust has settled on the drama, but I have something I'd like to say about this whole thing.

To me, and to lots of other people, all this drama that has occurred over the last 24 hours was entirely unnecessary. The thing is, drama like this has happened so many times on all forms of this fourm.. The SA season 3 chaos, most of the Sole Imagineer (both seasons), the TinTin fiasco.. You get my point.

This drama is really starting to take its toll on me.. It's making me consider leaving the forums entirely. I came here to show my interests and develop creative ideas in a peaceful environment, not a drama-ridden experience of conflict.

If nothing changes sooner or later, I will very likely leave the Imagineering fourm permanently and set off for other passions in life. I really don't want to do this, but I have no choice if this stupid drama keeps up.
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Sorry if I cause more drama out of this.. I just felt like I needed to voice my opinion.
 

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