The Red Button Option

Tom P.

Well-Known Member
Why be obtuse or ignorant when you don't have to be... follow the link I provided and you see this? Just because you don't like the information doesn't mean it is wrong.
You are the one who is deliberately ignoring information. It has been explained to you multiple times that the Florida death reporting is inaccurate for the past two weeks or more. Florida's own Web site says so. There is a horrible lag in county death information getting included on the state Web site. As such, things will look like they are going down and then that changes when the numbers are updated. Again, this is all stated on the official Florida tracking Web site.

The graph that includes the daily county data actually looks like this:
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HauntedMansionFLA

Well-Known Member
So Bob, if you end up getting elected .....

Who is going to be running the Disney Company..??

There is no way the two of you could run the U.S. and still work for Mickey.

So who will be taking over?
Surely since you two will be planning on world domination you will need someone to replace you guys once you leave for the White House.



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Kathleen Kennedy will take over
 
Of course **death rate** is going down as more and more positives are discovered.

But death rate is a trailing indicator.

Also, if it's mainly younger people getting the virus who are less likely to die, that will also push death rate down.

However, those younger people visit their grandparents, and work as cashiers in grocery stores where older and more vulnerable people go. So, if you have the positive rate spike among younger people, you won't see death rates go up.... immediately. But that spike in positives is very likely to come in contact with those who had been isolating... and then the absolute number of deaths increase. Which it is. An article in the Times yesterday chronicles how coronavirus is starting to spread in The Villages.

Actual number of deaths keep going up.
All models are wrong, but some are useful.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
I guess it is to educate on where things are with a differing viewpoint. It seems to be a green field that needs some good counterpoint and proper info. That is not welcome? Also.... I am certain that layoffs are coming very soon so people need to see what is going on.

I have 2 other posts that are waiting for Mod approval with more info. Look for those when the Mod gets to them.
You may have to change your forum name if you are part of the re-org.
 

Castmbr

Active Member
You may have to change your forum name if you are part of the re-org.

When the layoffs come then I will be part of them so at this point my loyalty to the NDA is ....let's just say less effective. Not like I am giving trade secrets just some info on where they are headed from a thought process based upon publicly available data.

When I see most of my fellow cast furloughed, forced to go on unemployment , use PTO to try to eek out some normal pay then the company thanks them for their service in Aug/Sept (date rumor) by laying them off after the unemployment runs out then it is hard for me to "feel the magic" anymore. I came to Disney years ago and loved working here but as things get bad you are seeing how weak the leadership really is due to infighting and people trying to protect their "territory". I will be leaving soon and I hope it is by choice and not via pink slip.

Sorry Ultra-Disney fans to burst the bubble with a differing opinion on the RUMOR forum....LOL

This has been an interesting experiment to watch how fans react to news and information that challenges world views😂
 

Castmbr

Active Member
Cut costs? You've been following what Disney as a company has been doing for the last several months?

The offshore IT was his baby and that cut costs and continues to bear that fruit for the last 9 years. It is fine to do when you have a very sound project with good acceptance criteria....but Disney likes to be vague and offshore is not good at delivering a good product unless really tightly controlled testing criteria is known.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
You are the one who is deliberately ignoring information. It has been explained to you multiple times that the Florida death reporting is inaccurate for the past two weeks or more. Florida's own Web site says so. There is a horrible lag in county death information getting included on the state Web site. As such, things will look like they are going down and then that changes when the numbers are updated. Again, this is all stated on the official Florida tracking Web site.

The graph that includes the daily county data actually looks like this:
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The reporting of deaths by the State of Florida is not "inaccurate." The graph you are showing does not include daily county data. Each day, the State adds the newly reported deaths to the day that the death occurred. The State then updates the total number of deaths reported to date. The graph you show (and all other similar charts) takes the total number of deaths to date reported as of the current day and subtracts from the total number of deaths to date reported as of the prior day.

The chart from the State of Florida is more accurate because it is showing the number of deaths that occurred on each day. The difference between the two methods is that the way the State charts it, the numbers can (and do) increase for a particular day as new reports are received. Using the "newly reported deaths" method used by worldometers.info and all the other aggregation sites makes it so that each day's data is "closed" at whatever time that site uses for the rollover.
 

asianway

Well-Known Member
No, it's not. You just quoted the stats to show that's not true at all.

I just told you that the most recent FL numbers are not complete and they always make it look like the numbers are falling when they aren't. Here's FL's own dashboard:

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You can't use their last two weeks death numbers as accurate. But look at what was happening a full two weeks before that. And look at the continuing rise in positives.

The numbers are **NOT** going down.
Is that with or without the motorcycle death? Sorry I don’t buy any of these numbers. Too many agendas at play
 

ppete1975

Well-Known Member
I very seriously doubt it. My prediction is both college and pro football try to start up. But within a couple weeks time, there are many testing positive throughout the various teams. It is almost inevitable. And at that point, they will end up shutting back down, probably for the rest of the season.
thats why i said at least parts of it. It will start... maybe delayed but i dont see any way college football gets to the bowl games. What might happen and you are already seeing aspects is the ncaa will be splintered through this. There is no central management that is running this, each conference is doing there own thing. I see some of the non power 5 maybe moving to spring this season, the power 5 (some have already announced) that they will start later and only play their conference this year. At that point you could have the possibility of the SEC (which is going to be stubborn, they want packed stadiums still) trying not to shut down football, the pac IF they start up prob shut down first few positives, big 12, big 10 (my opinion the safest conference), acc somewhere in the middle. You could have a situation where college football is on tv but its only the SEC and the big 10.
To me this was a great spot for the power 5 to become unified and dump the ncaa.
Sorry didnt mean to make this a football post.
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
I guess it is to educate on where things are with a differing viewpoint. It seems to be a green field that needs some good counterpoint and proper info. That is not welcome? Also.... I am certain that layoffs are coming very soon so people need to see what is going on.

I have 2 other posts that are waiting for Mod approval with more info. Look for those when the Mod gets to them.

. Here’s the thing counter opinions generate good discussions and can lead to compromise. Counter facts are by their nature untrue and confuse the general population into thinking a fact is an opinion. The death rate in Florida is going up as of two weeks ago, data is not complete for dates after that, therefore new trends can not be made from those numbers yet.
 
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