The new park commercials

[Chi84]

…those are NOT the dusters

Dusters live in an adult make believe state of cruise control

That’s what I said. The so-called dusters make excuses for the company and go to WDW regardless of the experience because they love Disney.

The problem - if there is one - are the people who don’t care about the history or the company but enjoy Disney as it is without making any excuses for their spending choices. Disney had better find a way to appeal to these people because the others are becoming fewer.

 

[GhostHost1000]

That’s what I said. The so-called dusters make excuses for the company and go to WDW regardless of the experience because they love Disney.

The problem - if there is one - are the people who don’t care about the history or the company but enjoy Disney as it is without making any excuses for their spending choices. Disney had better find a way to appeal to these people because the others are becoming fewer.

My fear is those making some of the decisions today about the parks don’t care about the history and definitely don’t experience the parks the same way normal folk do. Therein lies the problem.

 

[Dranth]

Stop being negative in a WDW discussion forum, you're ruining my magic!

Negative is fine and often needed, nothing but negative is dishonest.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Gah. I am so sick of everyone around here just crapping on anything and everything Disney does. I know, I know. "We just want it to be as good as it used to be." No, you don't. You just want to complain. FFS, go down the street to Universal and leave the rest of us alone to actually enjoy things.

The ad is good. Very good. Nothing wrong with it at all. And you know what? My family was at Disney in September and it was also great. Call me a pixie duster if you want. But I'd rather be that than constantly upset about everything Disney does.

I think the points of lights on SSE is great!
I think the relocation of leave a legacy in EPCOT is great!
Bringing back the three spires in front of SSE is great!
I think using the Moana D+ series and making it into a movie is great!
I think the addition of Ratatouille to France is great!
I think its great when Disney makes money on movies!
I think its great to see the various wraps on the buses!
I think the new magic bands you can charge are great!
I think its great they kept Club Cool in EPCOT, we could have very easily lost that!
I think the ADDITION of TRON to MK is really GREAT!
Even if its old, I think FoP is the best ride in WDW!

That's just a few things that come to mind

 

[JD80]

My fear is those making some of the decisions today about the parks don’t care about the history and definitely don’t experience the parks the same way normal folk do. Therein lies the problem.

Half this is right I expect. I think they do care about the history but they don't experience the parks in any way that normal people do.

 

[Disstevefan1]

My fear is those making some of the decisions today about the parks don’t care about the history and definitely don’t experience the parks the same way normal folk do. Therein lies the problem.

In my opinion, there is NO consideration for history as if its a bad thing, as it may be considered being stuck in the past and not moving forward, This is especially true for WDW I think.

 

[celluloid]

I won't be arguing about it. I just want to point out something. That speaks to what the ad campaign is going for:


The ad campaign is not targeting the new things to see, but that the scale of the resort is worth spending more time at.

That tells you that the goal of what EPIC's marketing has done and expanded upon has worked. Which is to expand Universal's stay as a destination and hurt Disney's common situation of only going to two of the four parks for a family's time. Something that is going to be very sought after now.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That’s what I said. The so-called dusters make excuses for the company and go to WDW regardless of the experience because they love Disney.

The problem - if there is one - are the people who don’t care about the history or the company but enjoy Disney as it is without making any excuses for their spending choices. Disney had better find a way to appeal to these people because the others are becoming fewer.

My observations of many years at this is the “haters” have a deeper, more Philosophical view of parks and attachment. Generally speaking

Sure…some are angry ex employees that got dumped at the end of the college program…or have been priced out (unfortunate)…but most have a long history of attachment and deep financial commitment to the parks.

And then there were those like Xdan…who had to go hermit like Howard Hughes because New Jersey wouldn’t let him golf during Covid and made the boards a stump to speak off of

 

[Cliff]

If anybody likes what Burbank is doing to the legacy if this company?...that's great. That's everybody's choice.

For those fans that believe that Burbank is vandalizing Disney's history and it's legacy? ( I'm one of them) That's great too. We are ALL allowed to have opinions here.

Bottom line = If you love Burbank's decisions, be HAPPY and at PEACE with that! You should not need ANY validation from other people on this forum. If you see other fan's being what you think is "negative", that's fine! Let them. It should have zero affect on how much "you" love what you love. Nobody needs "afirmation" from anybody on this forum, so don't look for it here.

99.9% of every person on this forum is a BIG "Disney" fan. We ALL love the brand! The only difference here is that maybe half don't love "Burbank". Just bacause you don't love "Burbank" doesn't mean you don't love "Disney".

 

[JD80]

If anybody likes what Burbank is doing to the legacy if this company?...that's great. That's everybody's choice.

For those fans that believe that Burbank is vandalizing Disney's history and it's legacy? ( I'm one of them) That's great too. We are ALL allowed to have opinions here.

Bottom line = If you love Burbank's decisions, be HAPPY and at PEACE with that! You should not need ANY validation from other people on this forum. If you see other fan's being what you think is "negative", that's fine! Let them. It should have zero affect on how much "you" love what you love. Nobody needs "afirmation" from anybody on this forum, so don't look for it here.

99.9% of every person on this forum is a BIG "Disney" fan. We ALL love the brand! The only difference here is that maybe half don't love "Burbank". Just bacause you don't love "Burbank" doesn't mean you don't love "Disney".

No one is looking for validation here. Pretty insulting to assume that.

 

[JD80]

Put it this way, if you regularly went to a favorite restaurant with friends and one friend was always saying how much the restaurant sucked despite being told they didn't have to come, what do you think the common complaint amongst the group would be?

 

[plutofan15]

My observations of many years at this is the “haters” have a deeper, more Philosophical view of parks and attachment. Generally speaking

Sure…some are angry ex employees that got dumped at the end of the college program…or have been priced out (unfortunate)…but most have a long history of attachment and deep financial commitment to the parks.

And then there were those like Xdan…who had to go hermit like Howard Hughes because New Jersey wouldn’t let him golf during Covid and made the boards a stump to speak off of

What exactly do you mean by "deep financial commitment to the parks"? Not trying to be snarky, truly curious.

 

[larryz]

The ad is good. Very good. Nothing wrong with it at all.

It IS a good ad. And it made me sad
Because I remember when it made me glad
Our trips to the world made me happy
But since the Bobs took over, they've made it sappy
Dollars per guest is their guiding inflection
Confusing those guests with cheap misdirection
Look at the new stuff! Forget all the old...
Forget all the freebies of which you've been told
For now you must give us more dollars and cents
If you want to come in and see dead presidents
And riding with Peter will cost you more dearly
For getting priority gives profits more clearly
Me and my kindred, we're just some dumb tourists
And Bob and his Crew, they laugh at us purists
It's more and more evident with each passing moon
They manage the World with Roller Coaster Tycoon.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

Put it this way, if you regularly went to a favorite restaurant with friends and one friend was always saying how much the restaurant sucked despite being told they didn't have to come, what do you think the common complaint amongst the group would be?

If a friend showed me an ad and said, "I don't think this is a great ad, do you?"

And I reply, "I agree, it is not the company's best ad," and even go so far as to share some prior ads I like better. It would strike me as odd if any of my friends took that to mean that I hated the restaurant where we were eating.

Liking this ad, or not liking the ad, has nothing to do with where everyone likes to eat. We should be able to discuss a simple ad without drama.

(Also, if I was dining with friends, and one of them made a point of telling me that I didn't have to come, I'd think that person was pretty rude. Wouldn't everyone?)

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

A good of example of apple and oranges are six flags ads...

Which one is makes you want to go...

1999 ad


2004 ad


I am hoping for better marketing since the new merger has begun..

 

[DarkMetroid567]

Some of the commercials posted in this thread were fine for the 80s but I don’t think they hold up too well. I actually really like last year’s campaign a ton — I saw it at a movie theater and thought wow, they cooked.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

If a friend showed me an ad and said, "I don't think this is a great ad, do you?"

And I reply, "I agree, it is not the company's best ad," and even go so far as to share some prior ads I like better. It would strike me as odd if any of my friends took that to mean that I hated the restaurant where we were eating.

Liking this ad, or not liking the ad, has nothing to do with where everyone likes to eat. We should be able to discuss a simple ad without drama.

(Also, if I was dining with friends, and one of them made a point of telling me that I didn't have to come, I'd think that person was pretty rude. Wouldn't everyone?)

Tbf that’s not what most of this thread was. It was harping on the parks in an abstract way until the push for actual commercial discussion happened.

 

[Goofyernmost]

No one is looking for validation here. Pretty insulting to assume that.

I'm not sure that is true. We aren't always conscious that we are doing just that when we decide that someone doesn't have a right to feel differently than ourselves. No, you didn't pick a person or persons to agree with you (validate) but by feeling that they should agree with you or be quiet, is the same thing. Just with a use of different words. So, no it is not insulting at all, it's just that we don't recognize it when we do it. When we are doing it we are saying that we are correct and those that don't agree are wrong and have no reason to be vocal about it.

 

[Cliff]

The way you put it is much more delicate and careful than the way I say it.

Here is my cave-man way of saying it:

Let's use,...I dunno, the Miami Dolphins:

Person #1 - Loves the Miami Dolphins with their heart and soul. Another person comes along and poops all over the team. They call the Miami Dolphins worthless losers that haven't won a Superbowl since the 1970's. Person #1 begins to get hurt feelings and maybe even begins to question their love of the team. Constant criticism of the team is now affecting their ability to love that team and spend money going to Miami Dolphins games and wear their Dan Marino jersey....etc....etc.

Person #2 - Loves the Miami Dolphins with their heart and soul. Criticism of the team makes no difference to person #2. They hear taunts and shouts from Jet's fans at the game and they laugh it off and taunt right back. Person #2 proudly walks into Jet's stadium and is clearly outnumbered 1000/1 and doesn't need ANY validation or affirmation of the fact they are proudly wearing a Miami Dolphins Jersey in a sea of Jets green.

All I'm saying is love what you love and don't let an opposing argument or idea make you feel bad. Be confident in what you stand for. This forum is the Roman Colosseum of the Disney world. It is FULL of gladiators fighting it out over opposing Disney ideas and concepts. Sometimes it gets rough around here but that's OK. Life outside of this forum is the EXACT same way. There are no "safe spaces" in life. Instead, learn to tolerate people you disagree with. Learn to tolerate ideas and concepts that go completely against the way you see things.

Instead of running away or canceling people, learn to tolerate, process and cope with all the stuff you disagree with. That is a life skill that will serve us ALL well in the future, no matter what you believe in.

Again,...maybe half the people here are "pro-Burbank" and the other half are "anti-Burbank" but every single person here is "PRO-DISNEY". I'm 100% certain of this!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I missed todays “whacky math”
To show wdw is “growing”

Instant brain bleed…I’ll be at the ER if you need me