The Muppet Kingdom

britain

Well-Known Member
It is odd to someone not American. Seems rather.... crass. As good as it may be without pre judging the product.

Kind of like if we had Buckingham Palace in Epcot and we hung Spitting Image puppets out the window.

I actually think this is right in Muppet's wheel house. Think more Muppet Christmas Carol with regards to the way they can get the big picture right while still having irreverent asides.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
The tie-in is Sam Eagle. He's ALL patriotic, and the other Muppets relate to him on that level.
Once again, vague notions of patriotism is not the theme of Liberty Square. Sam Eagle is a character who exists in a contemporary setting. This whole thing only works by removal by any sense of setting from Liberty Square.

These fellows would argue that point.
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That's not self referential or breaking the fourth wall
 

Disneyhead'71

Well-Known Member
Once again, vague notions of patriotism is not the theme of Liberty Square. Sam Eagle is a character who exists in a contemporary setting. This whole thing only works by removal by any sense of setting from Liberty Square.


That's not self referential or breaking the fourth wall
I'm not sure that you can break the forth wall any harder than sitting in the guests lap.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
This like every other change that has been or ever will be made, falls into two camps with people:

1. I think I am going to like it, and I am excited about it.
2. Change is bad - do not change anything - why are the ruining everything? How come theres never any new attractions?
No,

You forgot change that's an improvement and a suitable fit.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
This like every other change that has been or ever will be made, falls into two camps with people:

1. I think I am going to like it, and I am excited about it.
2. Change is bad - do not change anything - why are the ruining everything? How come theres never any new attractions?
Good job completely ignoring the critique.
 

Me 'Earties

Not all treasure is silver and gold, mate
This like every other change that has been or ever will be made, falls into two camps with people:

1. I think I am going to like it, and I am excited about it.
2. Change is bad - do not change anything - why are the ruining everything? How come theres never any new attractions?

Hi there. Long time listener, first time caller....

Okay, joking aside, I kinda agree with this comment. Althought I haven't been a member very long (always read the forum comments though), it does seem that this happens quite a bit. I'm actually shocked that people get so mad about change and it's poo-pooed (it seems like a lot of the time, but I haven't read every single thread either), but then I realize that Disney folks are very opinionated. Nothing wrong with that-I think people just have a strong passion here. There are things we want to see changed, and things we want to stay as is. This is why we all like to chat on this here forum-to express our opinions/thoughts on the world that is Disney!
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Hi there. Long time listener, first time caller....

Okay, joking aside, I kinda agree with this comment. Althought I haven't been a member very long (always read the forum comments though), it does seem that this happens quite a bit. I'm actually shocked that people get so mad about change and it's poo-pooed (it seems like a lot of the time, but I haven't read every single thread either), but then I realize that Disney folks are very opinionated. Nothing wrong with that-I think people just have a strong passion here. There are things we want to see changed, and things we want to stay as is. This is why we all like to chat on this here forum-to express our opinions/thoughts on the world that is Disney!
Except that you will find that very, very few people just want things to stay as is.
 

Me 'Earties

Not all treasure is silver and gold, mate
Except that you will find that very, very few people just want things to stay as is.

Ah yes. Now that I think I about it, people have strong opinions about the changes (not necessarily that they don't want change-it may be they don't like the sort of change that is being discussed)-if they feel like it's the right or wrong sort of change for the specific area. Good point.

Regardless, it's always quite entertaining to read!!
 

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