how do you know it was the last express monorail? That doesn't sound correct at all.
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how do you know it was the last express monorail? That doesn't sound correct at all.
Pioneer Hall
Well-Known Member
Sorry, but that doesn't sound right. I also know that the resort monorail was running until 3 yesterday...the sign at the Polynesian station has it clearly posted.
peachykeen
Well-Known Member
I agree that 10 minutes after closing is too soon for them to have shut down, but based on Guest flow, sometimes we will cut Express as little as 1/2 hour after the park closes so that the Express trains can start to go back to Shop and have a little bit more time for maintenance/cleaning when they get back there.
Pioneer Hall
Well-Known Member
The only place you can walk to from the MK is the Contemporary and it takes me about 5 or so minutes to get there.
Jimmy Thick
Well-Known Member
Um, last time I was there, the monorail was running fine. There always seems to be a huge pile up at the end of the night, especially after the fireworks. In fact, it has been that way for as long as I can remember exiting the MK. This information is really nothing new, if the parks are packed what can you possibly expect?
Jimmy Thick-The design is fine, its the people...
Jimmy Thick-The design is fine, its the people...
Marge10369
Member
Florida
New Member
I was in MK last Thursday and it got me so annoyed how slow the trams were taking off from the TTC. Only 1 CM for the whole tram checking all of the seats. Last year there was so much staff going up and down on Segways checking this year there's hardly any.
I was 30 minutes waiting for a tram and there wasn't even much people waiting!
I was 30 minutes waiting for a tram and there wasn't even much people waiting!
devoy1701
Well-Known Member
during the middle of the day (or any time that is not park opening or closing) we have been opting to just walk to the TTC from the parking lot. It's a good workout and you usually get where you need to be going sooner than you would if you waited for the Tram.
If they had an option to walk around 7 Seas I bet we would opt to do this as well sometimes.
LaughingGravy
Well-Known Member
This yet another one of the many reasons I now visit DLR over WDW nowadays. DLR's set up is soooooooo much easier and takes a 15 minute walk to get from our hotel to the parks and vice versa. While at WDW it takes a good 45+ minutes to get anywhere you want to go. I love the Florida Parks and all but my family lost interest after they have refused to add anything major up until FLE. They keep raising the prices yet they haven't added anything to warrant the raise. Closing Pleasure Island was the last straw, and now we just head over to Cali for more fun, besides people at DLR are 100x more happy, relaxed, and polite.
So much of the above post is true, this coming from a longtime fanboy of WDW.
DW and I just made it to DL on a pleasure/business trip.
It was a 10 minute walk from our very nice off-site Good Neighbor hotel room with a nice breakfast included to inside walking under the train tunnels and onto Main St.
10 minutes, I kid you not.
To fly to CA costs about $150 to $200 more per person than FL from NJ if planned in time, but DL is compact enough and full enough that we are more likely now to go to Disneyland over WDW.
They even have a citipass deal where you go to Sea World and the famed San Diego Zoo and some other place(Universal?) with a parkhopper 3- day pass to DL and DCA, costing about $20 more per person than simply the 3 day park hopper.
Yes, we would need to rent a car, but the way WDW transportation is these days, we rent a car now anyway as it does take 45 minutes + to get from one place to the other, best case.
DL maintains a constant upkeep that we noticed was lacking on our last two trips to WDW.
Their Space Mountain blows away WDW's as does their Main St. and Pirates.
Merchandise to buy is better in the California parks.
It has the history.
They have canoes! And they're great!
They have Submarines! And yes, they are great, even with the Nemo update, which is done pretty well.
Any of us who own the Disney Treasures Discs of anything related to Disneyland will fully appreciate what is there, including little things like being able to see really good bands play at the Tomorrowland stage as it rises up and then drops down, or walking into the legendary Golden Horseshoe, or seeing the Plaza Gardens stage where Annette and Bobby Rydell performed , and the Mark Twain, and the Columbia!
By the way, they use both the Mark Twain and the Columbia in their Fantasmic, which is truly incredible.
There is also a reverence for the classics at that park that stays, even extending to the parades.
When was the last time there was a Mary Poppins show in the MK in FL?
Or, a band entertaining in front of the train station before people walked in with Alice and the Mad Hatter teaching kids how to do a dance?
Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln on Main St, the arcade, the Magic Shop, the Main St. movie theater, and a host of other things on Main St in DL remain charming while much of the character of Main St. in WDW has been stripped in favor of I don't even know what they are trying to convey these days.
Oh yeah, a big "Disney Parks" store.
For those of you fed up with TDO who aren't AP holders, I strongly suggest saving up some more, perhaps not going on that next WDW trip and make the journey the following year to John Wayne Airport in Orange County California to visit DL and DCA. Avoid LAX airport if at all possible.
DCA is a 1/2 day park, and I do mean that.
It's a 1/2 day, not just because of the duplication of much of what is at the Disney Studios in FL, but that with World of Color, they effectively shut down 1/2 the park a half-hour prior to the first showing.
The park is open 10-10, but effectively 10-8 based on World of Color.
The roping off of areas for World of Color is excessive and unnecessary.
We saw World of Color.
If you've seen Fantasmic in FL, you've seen World of Color. It's not worth the wait of a fastpass in order to get into the viewing area, especially since there is no seating in the viewing area unless it is while people are waiting.
Then, the show starts and everyone stands up. It's very silly.
Little Mermaid is OK. It's got some weird elements to it.
Grizzly Rapid Run or whatever it is called is very good to get you soaked to the bone.
California Screamin' Coaster is fantastic!
Mickey's wheel is fun on the moving cars (think Coney Island Wonder Wheel), but the wait time is nutsy.
I know I totally went off on a tangent (or 3 or 4), but going back to the original thread, the crazy transportation situation that a premium price is paid for in FL now warrants probably spending just a little bit more and going out to see DL.
MysticOrient
Member
I agree with you. My problem is I get panic attacks in large, thick crowds, which is why I generally won't go during these "peak" times. We usually go in October-ish, and even then there are crowds thick enough to panic me, but not enough to make me go into an all-out hysterical panic (well, ok, it's usually not quite that bad!).
As someone else posted, though, we usually find something else to do to let the crowds dissipate so we don't have to be standing that close to other folks who've also spent a long day in the parks (and didn't refresh their deodorant!). :lol:
Judy
janoimagine
Well-Known Member
For once we actually agree.
It always surprises me the people who go during peak season then complain that the lines are too long. Your going during the worst possible time, of course there is going to be lines when everyone is trying to exit at the same time. Here is a tip, go during off peak.
It ain't the arrow, it's the indian.
It's not even that you have to go in off season, it's just knowing WHEN to go WHERE if you are there during peak. I walked out of MK on the 4th of July last year and right onto a Ferryboat with my parents and friends. WHy? Because we waited for the 2nd parade, then walked out and by that time the main crowd was gone. I'll never understand why people choose to leave right after fireworks. If you're going to, then watch the fireworks on mainstreet so you're already nearly out of the park when you try to exit.For once we actually agree.
It always surprises me the people who go during peak season then complain that the lines are too long. Your going during the worst possible time, of course there is going to be lines when everyone is trying to exit at the same time. Here is a tip, go during off peak.
It ain't the arrow, it's the indian.
drp4video
Well-Known Member
after the fireworks, we always stop at the ice cream parlor on Main Street to get ice cream, then wander through the gift shops, not necessarily buying anything, but its better to look in the shops than stand in the monorail line.
Some people have to go during peak season due to school, but there are still ways to make it a little less painfully crowded. We did stop going the week between Christmas and New Years three years ago, and I am very excited as this year for the first time we are going right after Labor Day weekend. As we are used to Christmas and summer, I am so looking forward to this trip!
As we rent a car and drive to the parks, even though we stay on property, the only place I anticipate a monorail situation for us is the MK, if we go to EMH.
Some people have to go during peak season due to school, but there are still ways to make it a little less painfully crowded. We did stop going the week between Christmas and New Years three years ago, and I am very excited as this year for the first time we are going right after Labor Day weekend. As we are used to Christmas and summer, I am so looking forward to this trip!
As we rent a car and drive to the parks, even though we stay on property, the only place I anticipate a monorail situation for us is the MK, if we go to EMH.
EvanAnderson
Active Member
Did you yell at or express displeasure to the 1 Cast Member checking trams, doing his/her job? What if it was beyond his or her control, maybe that area had a large amount of call-ins? Sometimes I see rude Cast Members, and I can't help but think that some guest somewhere made them that way.
wedenterprises
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If it were up to me and I had all the money in the world, this is what I'd do:
First of all switch from Buses to PRTs. Google PRT transit if you don't know what it is. But that is besides the point....
The TTC would cease to exist.
The express monorail would also cease to exist and would rather become an extension of the Epcot beam, going direct to MK with a stop at the new MK parking hub.
I would then install a larger people mover (5-10 people per cab) that runs from on top of the bus/PRT terminal at MK, around the lake towards the parking lot.
There would be a station in the middle of the parking lot (where a giant grass/tree area currently sits). It would act as a hub for the parking lot. A short walk to your car from there. Special trolleys would travel around picking people up who need some help getting from their cars to the station.
The ferry would continue to run, but a waterway would be extended from the current TTC to the middle of the MK parking lot where the new MK parking lot "hub" would sit.
that would take a ton of money and there are many logistics but in a "sim city" world I'd do it.
First of all switch from Buses to PRTs. Google PRT transit if you don't know what it is. But that is besides the point....
The TTC would cease to exist.
The express monorail would also cease to exist and would rather become an extension of the Epcot beam, going direct to MK with a stop at the new MK parking hub.
I would then install a larger people mover (5-10 people per cab) that runs from on top of the bus/PRT terminal at MK, around the lake towards the parking lot.
There would be a station in the middle of the parking lot (where a giant grass/tree area currently sits). It would act as a hub for the parking lot. A short walk to your car from there. Special trolleys would travel around picking people up who need some help getting from their cars to the station.
The ferry would continue to run, but a waterway would be extended from the current TTC to the middle of the MK parking lot where the new MK parking lot "hub" would sit.
that would take a ton of money and there are many logistics but in a "sim city" world I'd do it.
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
Why in the seven hells would you engineer a new parking area when the one that exists has nothing wrong with it? Its not the parking thats broken, its the monorail. A much simpler solution would be to turn the monorail lines into covered, continuously moving peoplemover-style vehicles.
There is really no difference with what you're doing and the existing system, other than the podcars, which would be ridiculously unfeasible right now. You know how many thousands of those they would need?
In reality, the Epcot line should be closed, and buses from the three hotels run to Epcot. All parking for Epcot would then be at its lot, not at TTC.
Buses should stay. They are the most expandable, versatile, and cost effective system currently available, and therefore the best solution for WDW.
So you'd arrive at TTC, get on a trolley to the peoplemover station, and board it. The doors on the continuously loading peoplemover would close automatically as you left the station, and open automatically as you reached the resorts and the MK.
There is really no difference with what you're doing and the existing system, other than the podcars, which would be ridiculously unfeasible right now. You know how many thousands of those they would need?
In reality, the Epcot line should be closed, and buses from the three hotels run to Epcot. All parking for Epcot would then be at its lot, not at TTC.
Buses should stay. They are the most expandable, versatile, and cost effective system currently available, and therefore the best solution for WDW.
So you'd arrive at TTC, get on a trolley to the peoplemover station, and board it. The doors on the continuously loading peoplemover would close automatically as you left the station, and open automatically as you reached the resorts and the MK.
wedenterprises
Well-Known Member
Not sure if you can read but I did say "if I had all the money in the world."
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
While you are probably right...I just can't imagine Epcot without the monorail gliding through it.
kramden88
Member
I hears that there really aren't slow seasons anymore. Or at least not like there used to be. Is that incorrect?