The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[TP2000]

No one said that, though. Someone shared a tweet where someone explained that a DL CM caught monkeypox, and you responded with “who cares,” after suggesting that people who aren’t gay or bisexual men have nothing to worry about. No one said they were cancelling their trips, no one freaked out… We simply said it’s possible to get it through various ways.

It's just not going to be a thing people get from handrails at Disneyland. That's all I'm saying. It's being currently spread by men who have sex with men, often at anonymous sex clubs and/or via hookup sex Apps for gay men. The state and federal response with a disappearing vaccine supply is to aim what little Monkeypox vaccine is left solely at gay men.

The handrails and lap bars of the Disneyland Resort are safe. You can also dance the Frug at Tomorrowland Terrace to a bad cover band with complete safety. There is nothing to fear, for Disneyland visitors or CM's alike.

I would argue that you’re contributing to the stigmatization of the gay community by suggesting that folks who aren’t gay or bisexual men can’t get it, when they can.

Trust me, I remember the 1980's. I had people in my life who died in the 80's and 90's, enough said to keep this light and happy. I understand and can properly use the word "stigmatization" in a sentence.

This isn't stigmatization, it is simply sharing factual data with grown adults who can handle the truth.

If anyone here can't handle the truth about Monkeypox, don't look at these hard facts and actual data.

Mpox Data

www.cdph.ca.gov

 

[TP2000]

In my best Darth Vader voice: Where is Darkbeer? Is he okay? Is he alright?

I was just wondering that myself the other day! I imagine he's just busy with life.

 

[Californian Elitist]

It's just not going to be a thing people get from handrails at Disneyland. That's all I'm saying. It's being currently spread by men who have sex with men, often at anonymous sex clubs and/or via hookup sex Apps for gay men. The state and federal response with a disappearing vaccine supply is to aim what little Monkeypox vaccine is left solely at gay men.

The handrails and lap bars of the Disneyland Resort are safe. You can also dance the Frug at Tomorrowland Terrace to a bad cover band with complete safety. There is nothing to fear, for Disneyland visitors or CM's alike.



Trust me, I remember the 1980's. I had people in my life who died in the 80's and 90's, enough said to keep this light and happy. I understand and can properly use the word "stigmatization" in a sentence.

This isn't stigmatization, it is simply sharing factual data with grown adults who can handle the truth.

If anyone here can't handle the truth about Monkeypox, don't look at these hard facts and actual data.

Mpox Data

www.cdph.ca.gov

No one’s afraid. The fear is imaginative.

K.

 

[TP2000]

No one’s afraid. The fear is imaginative.

Good. But tell that to the Twitter kids.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Good. But tell that to the Twitter kids.

I’m not on Twitter, so you feel free.

 

[TP2000]

I’m not on Twitter, so you feel free.

Oh God, me either. It's a cesspool. But this whole thing started because some hyperventilating CM on Twitter reported that the Pox had arrived at Disneyland. Be afraid! Be very afraid!

 

[shambolicdefending]

The odds of getting Monkeypox by means other than certain types of sexual contact are not zero, but they are extremely small - to the point that the average person can't really justify concerning themselves with it.

There will be exceptional cases and individual circumstances, but those are things to be dealt with in like manner - exceptionally and individually.

Humans, as a whole, are very poor at perceiving risk accurately and modifying their behaviors in ways that make practical sense. There are tons of examples of ways we're over-protective of things that aren't major risks and under-protective of things that are much more likely to affect us.

I guess my biggest concern is that irrational concerns about monkeypox could cause just enough of a public outcry to force Disney into some operational changes that aren't really helpful or necessary and could negatively impact the experience as a guest. I think it's especially more likely for something like that to happen in the shadow of the COVID pandemic.

Hopefully this is just a matter of a few tweets and nothing more.

 

[mickEblu]

This is pretty cool and would probably be a must buy for me if I didn’t already own the piece below. Still might snag one though. What Id really love is a recreation of the Storybookland Monstro.

 

[Phroobar]

This is pretty cool and would probably be a must buy for me if I didn’t already own the piece below. Still might snag one though. What Id really love is a recreation of the Storybookland Monstro.


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That one is better.

 

[Phroobar]

I picked up one of these recently. It's the 2022 Halloween droid. He's a vampire with a glowing dome!!!

 

[TP2000]

I guess my biggest concern is that irrational concerns about monkeypox could cause just enough of a public outcry to force Disney into some operational changes that aren't really helpful or necessary and could negatively impact the experience as a guest. I think it's especially more likely for something like that to happen in the shadow of the COVID pandemic.

That was all perfectly said, thank you!

And I share your worry about irrational concerns about getting Monkeypox in a public setting forcing Disney into operational changes at Disneyland that aren't necessary.

Which is also why I think it's helpful to get the real facts and data out about Monkeypox, who is catching it, and how.

Mpox Data

www.cdph.ca.gov

 

[TP2000]

What's funnier is that she refuses to sing the song anymore because the lyrics hit too close to home to the recent mass shootings....well....to her it does anyway.

Pat Benatar refuses to sing 'Hit Me With Your Best Shot' after gun violence: 'You have to draw the line'

After 40-plus years, Pat Benatar is still standing with a defiant smile. She talks about gun violence, women in rock and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

www.usatoday.com

Does Ms. Benatar know Disney is using her song on a ride? She must have approved it use, or her agent or lawyer approved.

That seems silly that she doesn't sing it any more. When I hear that song, it's about:

1980's Pop Radio Innocent Explanation = A girl inviting a guy to give it his best shot at flirting with her.

1980's Wiser Adult Explanation = An "experienced" girl with a few notches in her lipstick case expecting the guy to jump through a few hoops prior to, um, scoring.

I could believe that now in 2022 some woke academics in the Faculty Lounge or humorless college kids who seem to get no joy out of life could believe it's somehow about "Misogyny!" or just go full depression and think it's a song about physical violence towards women. That you can still dance to.

But to equate it to mass shootings? That seems a stretch.

What's hilarious is that even with the two trampy 1980's versions of it's explanation above, that it landed as the soundtrack on a Disneyland ride. And is still being used while they fret about accents the robots have in the Tiki Room.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Oh God, me either. It's a cesspool. But this whole thing started because some hyperventilating CM on Twitter reported that the Pox had arrived at Disneyland. Be afraid! Be very afraid!

You’re exaggerating to the max lmaoooo. All the CM said was that someone at work has monkeypox.

What’s happening here? The irony…

 

[TP2000]

You’re exaggerating to the max lmaoooo. All the CM said was that someone at work has monkeypox.

No, that's not all the CM said.

The CM prefaced her statement by saying "because Disney probably isn't gonna put it out", implying that Disney would be hiding from the facts or refusing to acknowledge it for some reason. But why would Disney even care that a CM has Monkeypox, other than to provide that CM with their approved time off for an illness?

The CM couched their statement in language that implied Disney would be hiding this for some reason. That's the story here, where there should be none. Because Monkeypox is currently being spread by men having sex with other men, not by employees working together in close quarters.

 

[chadwpalm]

Does Ms. Benatar know Disney is using her song on a ride? She must have approved it use, or her agent or lawyer approved.

It doesn't quite work that way. Her record label (at the time) owns the sound recording of the song (which was sold to EMI who now owns it). She gets a percentage of money from record sales (based on her contract) and possibly a percentage of the licensing for the use of the song by Disney (which again would depend on her contract). She technically has no say unless the record label wanted to pay her the courtesy, but since she didn't write the song anyway and its rights were sold off, I doubt she had any say. She'll just reap the monetary benefits from it with her left hand while her right hand refuses to sing it for the value of virtue signaling.

 

[Californian Elitist]

No, that's not all the CM said.

The CM prefaced her statement by saying "because Disney probably isn't gonna put it out", implying that Disney would be hiding from the facts or refusing to acknowledge it for some reason. But why would Disney even care that a CM has Monkeypox, other than to provide that CM with their approved time off for an illness?

The CM couched their statement in language that implied Disney would be hiding this for some reason. That's the story here, where there should be none. Because Monkeypox is currently being spread by men having sex with other men, not by employees working together in close quarters.

So? You’re still over exaggerating. “Hyperventilating?” “Be afraid?” Please lol. And what do you mean why would Disney even care?

I’m gonna stop right here, because what?

 

[TP2000]

She'll just reap the monetary benefits from it with her left hand while her right hand refuses to sing it for the value of virtue signaling.

Ah, yes. I think you just got to the truth there. A shame Ms. Benatar, who was once a real rebel, thinks she has to virtue signal like that, instead of just owning her own work and thumbing her nose at the elites.

I heard on the radio today that Steven Spielberg created 170 tons of carbon dioxide to fly his private jet 116,000 miles around the globe in just the last two months. The average middle class American creates 16 tons of carbon dioxide per year. And Spielberg just used 10 years of an American's carbon in just one summer of flying around to his vacation pads.

And yet Steven Spielberg said this in 2018... "everybody has to be held responsible for their role in climate change".

What a phony he is. All of 'em are, really.

At least with Ms. Benatar, you can still dance to it. And get a free drink!

 

[TP2000]

And what do you mean why would Disney even care?

Why would Disney care that a CM has Monkeypox, a non-lethal disease that usually clears up in two weeks time?

Why would Disney care that a CM has to have a wisdom tooth removed? Why would Disney care that a CM has Shingles? Why would Disney care that a CM has breast cancer? I can guarantee that at a huge employer like Disneyland with 30,000 CM's, they've right now got at least a few dozen CM's with cancer or viral diseases or recovering from strokes or healing a broken bone. All good people, I'm sure. And all great CM's, giving 'em the benefit of the doubt.

All of those things happen. "Disney" doesn't care, they have an HR department and legally approved medical benefits and sick time accrual to handle those normal human medical situations.

Do individual departments and groups of employees care that Tom got Monkeypox? Sure. Does some Dockers-clad manager handle the paperwork on the medical leave for Tom and then says some HR approved line to Tom to emote work appropriate human kindness? Sure.

But does Disney, a giant company and employer of 30,000 people in Anaheim alone, care that a parade kid named Tom got Monkeypox? I doubt it. Why would they? Why should they?

Legal Statement: Tom is fictional. Whoever had gay sex and got Monkeypox at Disneyland, I'm almost positive his name isn't Tom. But you know what they're saying about Tyler, don't you?

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Look, all I am saying is that I am gonna need everyone to continue to stay away from me at all times.

Social distancing was the only positive thing to come out of the pandemic… so of course it was the first thing to disappear.

 

[TP2000]

Social distancing was the only positive thing to come out of the pandemic… so of course it was the first thing to disappear.

No kidding! The CDC said last week that Social Distancing no longer is needed, or effective.

I will miss it.