Hawkeye_2018
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So is it true that the amount of walking at DL/CA is way less than parks at DW? My kids are getting too old for a stroller.
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PiratesMansion
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The parks are smaller and the attractions are closer together than in Florida, but since the resort is so much smaller you are using your feet to get you anywhere you want to go.
Hawkeye_2018
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As opposed to what?
Californian Elitist
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Transportation by way of bus, boat, monorail, etc.
Hawkeye_2018
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I just talking about inside the actual parks,
Phroobar
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Not after the civil war of 2024 and the Franchise Wars in 2032 where all restaurants became Taco Bell.
chadwpalm
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- In the Parks
- No
Depending on how much you try to get done and how long you are in the parks, you'll probably walk anywhere from 7-10 miles in a day.
PiratesMansion
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Then theoretically there's less walking, but because of longer park hours and typically more pleasant weather vs. Florida (at least in summer), you might end up spending more time in the parks in CA vs. FL, thus somewhat negating the difference.
That's been my experience, anyway.
TP2000
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I spent some time today in that Galactic Starcruiser thread over on the WDW side.
My God. We think we have problems at Disneyland? That thing opens in a few days and it's already a dumpster fire. Not since DCA 1.0 and Light Magic have I seen such cheap budgeting and questionable design choices! This will be fun to watch from afar, like a good car crash, but thank God it wasn't built in Anaheim just off Ball Road.
My God. We think we have problems at Disneyland? That thing opens in a few days and it's already a dumpster fire. Not since DCA 1.0 and Light Magic have I seen such cheap budgeting and questionable design choices! This will be fun to watch from afar, like a good car crash, but thank God it wasn't built in Anaheim just off Ball Road.
Californian Elitist
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For $6,000, I need to be spending quality time with George Lucas and his family. At least one brunch or dinner, playtime with the kids, one Sunday service, and some sort of mentorship session.
I agree that it will be fun to watch this likely disaster from afar. Disney has gotten out of control with taking as much money as they can from people. But as long as folks are willing to pay, nothing will change.
I agree that it will be fun to watch this likely disaster from afar. Disney has gotten out of control with taking as much money as they can from people. But as long as folks are willing to pay, nothing will change.
CaptinEO
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It speaks to what a useless waste of space Grizzly Peak is. It's a giant mound with one (1) ride on it. And that one (1) ride is a water thrill ride that drenches you with a 40 inch height requirement, so it automatically eliminates a few customer demographics even on a hot summer day. But from December through March that ride is either closed, or it's too cold to get drenched.
It was a very stupid decision to build that part of the park like they did. Grizzly Peak should have been slightly taller to help block sightlines, and then they would have had more space and topography to add a mine train ride winding around the flumes and hillsides, with a Bear theater in the base of the mountain accessed by a bear cave off to one side.
That way, you'd have used that same piece of property smack dab in the middle of the park and gotten two rides and an animatronic show out of basically the same space. Sadly, the Burbank execs of that late 1990's era were almost as clueless and cheap and visionless as Bob Chapek is today.
Your post makes me think of the worst use of space in Disney history, Star Wars Land. It takes up one quarter of Disneyland's real estate and has 2 rides and a few shops?
I don't know what they were thinking with that. How do large open spaces with nothing to do benefit the guests?
CaptinEO
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I see all these posts (since I started checking fan sites in 2004) about how Disney is greedy and will get whats coming to them.
I agree with you though, as long as people are showing up and paying, all this stuff continues.
Based on current numbers the parks are doing fine and the up charges are making them more money.
I'm not sure if a wave of fans online are entirely reflective of real numbers. As much as people wish it was.
No one wants to see a place they loved and enjoyed get worse and more expensive as time goes on, but it sounds like Disney is doing well for themselves.
(Talking about parks in general, not the "Star Cruiser" which looks like a mom throwing their kid a Star Wars themed birthday party without really knowing what Star Wars is)
Californian Elitist
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The parks have never been more crowded. Paying more for less is fine for a lot of people. The popularity of Genie+/lightning lane and the new AP program is proof of that.
Many people are so addicted to the Mouse that they don’t even stop to think about how things have changed and how these new changes ultimately screw guests over. All they want is Mickey pretzels and Space Mountain and they’ll pay whatever to get it without thinking first. Some know they’re getting played and just don’t care. Some are well aware of how Disney is calculating how they can get guests to spend more money for lesser things. We’ve caught on to the scam and refuse to give in. I’m in that camp.
Phroobar
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The vast majority of Disney park guests don't know what a forum is or have ever visited one. They make Disneyland popular because they heard about it on social media and their soccer mom friends. They don't obsess about it using thirty year old forum technology. We are one crazy person screaming in a room of ten thousand hypnotized by the Mouse.
Mac Tonight
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And of course the true irony (at least for me) is that even the most staunch, "I'm not giving Disney another dime" people on here are still willingly giving Disney their time. Disney lives rent-free in so many of our minds, and this forum (though unofficial) lets people scratch that Disney itch in a way that also weirdly somehow makes them feel like they're "above" the average park-goer because, at the very least, they're not paying the price of admission!
Well, jokes on you. You're still addicted.
Well, jokes on you. You're still addicted.
Californian Elitist
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Call out whomever you’re talking about. Who is “you?”
CaptinEO
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Couldn't agree with you more. And most visitors dont notice the downgrades or are too in love with the "brand" to see. Or in most cases they are infrequent visitors who don't track these things.
I think everyone wishes the parks would improve for customers.
The current leadership is proving people eat up whatever they do.
People call the leadership out of touch, and they are with how badly budgeted their projects are and how long they take to build, but making money? They are experts and are doing great.
People need to realize a single figure who runs a company as his passion project isn't the Disney company anymore.
Mac Tonight
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Lol. "You" is used in a general sense.
Californian Elitist
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Absolutely. And I want to be perfectly clear, since it seems that @Mac Tonight was attempting to call me out without directly calling me out, there are levels to the fandom. When I’m referring to the Kool-Aid drinkers, I’m specifically referring to the fans who have no criticism for the parks and Disney as a whole. The vlogger types, for example. All they want is their Disney fix and they can’t see any wrong or flaws. No one here in this forum matches that type of fan. We’ve all been critical of the way Disney is handling DL and DCA.
As you stated, and it’s something that I 100% agree with, the infrequent visitors/fans don’t track things. These are the people Disney wants at the parks, the ones who aren’t passionate about the company. They also prefer the fans who never complain/criticize, are addicted to going to the parks, and will happily spend their money, no matter how much Disney takes away. From a business standpoint, it makes sense. But it sucks for some other people.
CaptinEO
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I dont think the "you" in Mac Tonight was meant for any single person.
You are right they probably do have very good reason to favor the blind fans and infrequent visitors.
Infrequent visitors will probably get inconvenienced by all this new cell phone and genie garbage, but a week later they'll forget and by next visit it will be a long distant memory.
I have a coworker who is a DVC member and spends boatloads money each year at DL and WDW and they are totally blind fans who "love Disney". And thats OK and I'm glad they're having a great time. But it's certainly not my personality.