Phroobar
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Yup. That is hail not snow.
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Yup. That is hail not snow.
Disney Irish
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Its graupel which is different than hail.
Its actually been happening at Disneyland since the weekend -
Disneyland parkgoers get caught in graupel downpour
Parkgoers were pelted by precipitation pellets at Disneyland’s pioneer-themed play area Saturday afternoon. Video shared with KTLA showed park guests duck for cover as either hail or graupel fell d…
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Disney Analyst
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Closer to snow then hail.
Californian Elitist
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Seriously. I could see beautiful snow-capped mountains on my way to work today. I live in Los Angeles.
SuddenStorm
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Well, I sure hope the guests at the park today are having a hail of a good time.
Midwest Elitist
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Compared to us Midwesterners? We are forged in s*** weather.
Midwest Elitist
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It's my favorite too! The birds are filler for the run time, probably cause Don Bluth quitting shook things up.
I've always wondered what a proper sequel would be like, since the actual one might as well be based on someone's acid trip. I like the idea of Tod and Copper's children finding each other and getting along, while they still have it out for each other. Would be an interesting dynamic about how society has progressed since the first movie came out.
Practical Pig
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I've lived in coastal Northern California my entire life, often in strenuous, sometimes extreme precipitation conditions, and this is the first time I've learned the word "graupel". Live and learn.
Californian Elitist
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Weather and reaction to weather is subjective.
That comment was in reference to TP’s obsession with Southern Californian weather (and California in general, despite living in Utah lmao) last week and trying to brush off the very serious concerns about our change in weather as a joke.
TP2000
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This is most definitely snow! It's way too soft and fluffy for graupel or sleet. It was already melting as it worked its way down to ground level, but didn't have time to melt fully into rain by the time it landed. Snow!
Looking at the weather station located two blocks west of DCA at the corner of Katella and Bayless, it was 58 degrees at 1:30pm but then dropped nine degrees within the next 45 minutes down to 49 degrees by 2:15pm, before it bounced back up to 55 degrees by 3:00pm. There was a thunderstorm cell that moved through northern OC and over Disneyland at that time.
Rain in North America is almost always snow that has melted as it makes its way down through the warmer layers of the troposphere on its way to the ground. As the sudden crash in temps at ground level shows below, that was a very cold storm cell at higher elevations.
This Twitter video of the snow at DCA was released at 1:54pm, so obviously as that cold cell passed over was when this video was taken, right about where the arrow is on this temperature chart from that Katella weather station...
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TP2000
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No one in Orange County was in any danger this past weekend due to light to moderate rainfall and gusty winds. Weather happens.
No one at DCA today was in any danger when a cold upper-level storm cell passed overhead today and caused quickly melting snowflakes and light rainfall to land in 52 degree weather on Buena Vista Street. As you can see in that Twitter video, people remained calm and the theme park continued to operate even though it was not sunny and 72 as per usual in Anaheim.
Where things at Disney theme parks get really wild, and sometimes actually dangerous, is in places that have often violent weather like Hong Kong, Orlando, and sometimes Tokyo. But even then, you put on a poncho and trudge your way to Space Mountain...
TP2000
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I will say though, there is a very serious situation playing out in SoCal right now up in the San Bernardino Mountains! I was listening to Tim Conway Jr. (Gawd he's funny!) today on the KFI app, and they've been completely snowed in up in Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead for days now. They got over eight feet of snow the past four days! Groceries are running low, people are stuck in homes, power is out, tempers are flaring, and according to the Big Bear resident interviewed on the radio today panic is now setting in up there.
The state needs to send helicopters and the California National Guard up there ASAP to help those folks.
On the plus side, the HUGE amounts of mountain snow in San Bernardino County will eventually end up in the Santa Ana riverbed in a few months when it melts. That watershed directly feeds the huge underground aquifer that Orange County has set up in northern Anaheim. It's why water restrictions are rare and mild in OC during dry years, because their OC aquifer system is very effective!
It also helps Disneyland remain green and lush, because OC relies less on water sources beyond its borders.
But up in Big Bear right now? YIKES!!!
www.cbsnews.com
The state needs to send helicopters and the California National Guard up there ASAP to help those folks.
On the plus side, the HUGE amounts of mountain snow in San Bernardino County will eventually end up in the Santa Ana riverbed in a few months when it melts. That watershed directly feeds the huge underground aquifer that Orange County has set up in northern Anaheim. It's why water restrictions are rare and mild in OC during dry years, because their OC aquifer system is very effective!
It also helps Disneyland remain green and lush, because OC relies less on water sources beyond its borders.
But up in Big Bear right now? YIKES!!!
Big Bear 'critically low' on food and fuel after severe storm traps residents
All routes to Big Bear Valley are still shut down and with more snow on the way, there is no estimated time of reopening.
www.cbsnews.com
Disney Analyst
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I will say though, there is a very serious situation playing out in SoCal right now up in the San Bernardino Mountains! I was listening to Tim Conway Jr. (Gawd he's funny!) today on the KFI app, and they've been completely snowed in up in Big Bear and Lake Arrowhead for days now. They got over eight feet of snow the past four days! Groceries are running low, people are stuck in homes, power is out, tempers are flaring, and according to the Big Bear resident interviewed on the radio today panic is now setting in up there.
The state needs to send helicopters and the California National Guard up there ASAP to help those folks.
On the plus side, the HUGE amounts of mountain snow in San Bernardino County will eventually end up in the Santa Ana riverbed in a few months when it melts. That watershed directly feeds the huge underground aquifer that Orange County has set up in northern Anaheim. It's why water restrictions are rare and mild in OC during dry years, because their OC aquifer system is very effective!
It also helps Disneyland remain green and lush, because OC relies less on water sources beyond its borders.
But up in Big Bear right now? YIKES!!!
Big Bear 'critically low' on food and fuel after severe storm traps residents
All routes to Big Bear Valley are still shut down and with more snow on the way, there is no estimated time of reopening.
I’d be worried for flooding when it does melt. This must be an unprecedented level of snow pack, and that means the dry ground lower down, and riverbeds, may not be ready for it.
Disney Analyst
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I know many are against the fancy resorts switching to this, but it doesn’t bother me.
Californian Elitist
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No one in Orange County was in any danger this past weekend due to light to moderate rainfall and gusty winds. Weather happens.
happens. Doesn’t mean one shouldn’t take precautions. This is unusual weather we’re having. Period.
TP2000
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It's a historically large snowpack. Massive. The entire Western US is like this right now. And unusually cold for this late in the winter.
As for OC, they have Prado Dam and several other flood abatement facilities in place and ready to go! I can guarantee you that Main Street USA won't need sandbags in April when the snow starts melting.
TP2000
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It's very unusual! Unusually cold and rainy, especially as winter begins to morph into spring but the long range forecasts just call for more cold and wet.
But it's not dangerous to the average person in OC or the average visitor to Disneyland. It's merely inconvenient and crummy.
I was eating on the Plaza Inn porch when the storm started. It went from hail to graupel to snow. Amazing.
You could tell which guests were locals and who was used to the stuff. I was one of the excited people even though I should be used to it since it snowed at my house that one time on Saturday.
You could tell which guests were locals and who was used to the stuff. I was one of the excited people even though I should be used to it since it snowed at my house that one time on Saturday.
TP2000
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I love that you know those three definitions, but that you can also use them correctly in a sentence!
It absolutely must have been amazing. I can't remember a time living in OC when snowflakes made it down to ground level, and I even lived up on a hill.
A shame that it was in the mid 50's temperature wise when the snow fell in Anaheim today, or else it might have been able to last more than a few seconds on the ground!
Graupel Isn't Snow, Nor Sleet, Nor Hail, So What the Heck Is It?
Not to be confused with sleet, graupel is actually an interesting mix of snow and ice. But it's not hail. Graupel, get to know it.
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