The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

Californian Elitist

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First and foremost is Family. We are a big close knit family and that won't be replaceable anywhere. Next would be the weather. The weather out here is hard to beat. After that it would be food/ attractions. All the great and diverse food/ restaurants. Beaches/ Coast. Disneyland of course. If I'm still considering Florida in late April I'm going to try to make it up there.

Some of these are trade offs though. For example, where you lose in the diversity and options with food you gain some delicious soul food in Georgia and Tennessee etc.
If weather is a concern for you, then you may want to re-think Florida. I’ve only been there once in May, to Cocoa Beach and Orlando, but DAYUM. The heat and humidity are not fun at all. Not to mention the random thunderstorms and rain, which I experienced pretty much every single day of my trip.

I feel like the ones who brag and boast about Florida’s weather are southerners and east coasters. I’ve literally never heard anyone from California, or the west in general, praise Florida for its weather. I haven’t been to Hawaii yet, but I would agree that our weather is unmatched in the country. I’m sure I don’t have to tell you this, but make sure to look up the weather patterns in the cities and states you’re considering.
 

TP2000

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I feel like the ones who brag and boast about Florida’s weather are southerners and east coasters. I’ve literally never heard anyone from California, or the west in general, praise Florida for its weather. I haven’t been to Hawaii yet, but I would agree that our weather is unmatched in the country. I’m sure I don’t have to tell you this, but make sure to look up the weather patterns in the cities and states you’re considering.

There's about 200 Million Americans who live east of the Mississippi who think Florida's weather is great.

But only because they've never been to San Diego in July.

Hawaii is fabulous, but each island is different. I far prefer Maui or the Big Island's Kona coast myself, but I have friends who absolutely rave about the relatively rural north shore of Oahu an hour or so outside of Honolulu. I know a Lesbian couple on Kauai that claim it's the best place on the planet (even though one of them caught meningitis a few weeks after moving there!), but whenever I've visited them for a few days it's just overcast and drizzly. 🤷‍♂️
 

TP2000

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After following the recent conversation in this thread, I want to offer this:


Funny how that article mentions "high marriage rates" as an element of its happiness index. I said that earlier in this thread, but it's worth repeating....

For long-term happiness, young people should get married, stay married, build family wealth, and then take the kids to Disneyland! When they get older and have amassed even more family wealth and happiness, they can then take their grandkids to Disneyland and be able to afford all the Lightning Lane upgrades! 💲😍💲

The rampant rates of single-mothers and divorce are statistically and factually not good for long term health, wealth, and happiness.
 

TP2000

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Miscellaneous Thought:

This week high school marching bands from around the country, and from overseas, are arriving in SoCal to get ready for the Rose Parade on Monday. I just checked the forecast, and someone upstairs (not Dallas Raines, someone else!) pulled a few strings because the rainy weather is going to clear out for the parade on Monday morning before the rain returns on Tuesday.

I love this tradition. High school kids from small towns and suburbs around the country raise money and save their pennies to afford the trip to the Rose Parade, after auditioning and being accepted to perform in the grandest of all American parades. It warms my cold, shrunken, bachelor heart to see them proudly march down Main Street USA as a dress rehearsal for marching down Colorado Blvd. a few days later!

And can you imagine the giant box of wine their chaperones crack open when they finally return home after the trip to Pasadena?!? :D

This was a favorite band that I actually remember seeing myself at Disneyland about five years ago. From Kyoto, Japan! Apparently marching bands in Japan are predominantly a girls activity, except for a few tuba players. What do the other boys do I wonder? Baseball? Sumo wrestling?

Let's all give a big SoCal welcome to all those marching bands arriving this week to prepare for their Rose Parade debut on Monday!



 
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Californian Elitist

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Utah has gorgeous national parks and certain cultural quirks that come from being a state founded in connection to (and still influenced by) the LDS church.

Not 100% my thing, but I can see why outdoorsy people or LDS members might want to live there.
For sure, and I’m definitely not knocking Utah. But Nevada has a lot of gorgeous natural parks and scenery, too. There are things to do in Nevada. People just have to research.
 

truecoat

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Miscellaneous Thought:

This week high school marching bands from around the country, and from overseas, are arriving in SoCal to get ready for the Rose Parade on Monday. I just checked the forecast, and someone upstairs (not Dallas Raines, someone else!) pulled a few strings because the rainy weather is going to clear out for the parade on Monday morning before the rain returns on Tuesday.

I love this tradition. High school kids from small towns and suburbs around the country raise money and save their pennies to afford the trip to the Rose Parade, after auditioning and being accepted to perform in the grandest of all American parades. It warms my cold, shrunken, bachelor heart to see them proudly march down Main Street USA as a dress rehearsal for marching down Colorado Blvd. a few days later!

And can you imagine the giant box of wine their chaperones crack open when they finally return home after the trip to Pasadena?!? :D

This was a favorite band that I actually remember seeing myself at Disneyland about five years ago. From Kyoto, Japan! Apparently marching bands in Japan are predominantly a girls activity, except for a few tuba players. What do the other boys do I wonder? Baseball? Sumo wrestling?

Let's all give a big SoCal welcome to all those marching bands arriving this week to prepare for their Rose Parade debut on Monday!





I was heavily involved in the music booster group when our kids were in school. I chaperoned and helped to plan 4 trips to Florida to march at WDW, a couple of trips to the east coast, Wyoming, and several other closer destinations. It was a great time that I look back on fondly but I don't miss the 26-hour bus trip to Orlando.
 

truecoat

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I miss Lieutenant Dangle and Trudy Weigel and Terry and the whole Reno gang. :(

I always liked Terry.

reno 911 appreciation GIF
 

mickEblu

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My other two cents, honestly I think you'd do well in Florida. I didn't know cruises were another interest for you. It's also somewhere reasonable that you could convince family / cousins etc. to visit. Everyone thinks when they move people will visit them, but they don't UNLESS they were half motivated to visit that location anyways.

I have more people visit me in Calgary because there are touristy things to do (Banff, Lake Louise, National Parks). Did anyone visit for 4 years when I lived in Eastern Ontario and most of my friends Western Ontario, nope. Despite the former being a 4 hour flight and the latter a 4 hour drive.

I know this is a WDW forum, but you are an AP, so clearly theme parks are something you somewhat value. Even if you have a Disney fall out phase, Universal is a pretty good replacement. Which is a much, much, much more fleshed out product than Universal Hollywood.

In addition to being easy to get people to, you can get out of MCO with frequency and ease. I'm most jealous of Florida because of the ability to drive to cruise ships and some of those last minute deals can be a weird lifestyle perk.

That as a good point. I hadn't even considered family coming out to visit me. I had only thought of me flying back home 1-2 times a year. But yeah I'd imagine it's easier to get people out when you have WDW, the Caribbean, Cruises and Miami to entice them.

I think even if a Disney fallout phase was looming, 4 new parks, 20+ resorts and the whole WDW property should help with that. Nice to not have to spend 10k to go to Disney World! haha. Also nice to have the Universal resort as an easy option too especially with Epic Universe on the way.

Those last minute cruise deals sound like a really cool perk. It's wild to think of the easy access they have to all those different Caribbean islands. Just a short drive to the cruise port away. Florida in general is a lot closer to places I want to visit between some of the states I mentioned earlier, New Orleans and half the distance to London, Paris, Italy etc. Out here in California Ive never really had the desire to travel to nearby states. Went to Oregon once 25 years ago. It was nice but never felt the need to go back. Same with Nevada and Arizona. I'll miss the short flights to Hawaii though.
 

mickEblu

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Do keep in mind that while Florida is known as the sunshine state there are times where the days can be just as gloomy as Seattle, and if cloudy weather/rain is negative then that’s a negative for the Florida area albeit it doesnt typically rain all day but rather in bursts throughout the day.


The humidity does get to you here as Florida- especially the South proves that it is indeed a tropical clinate with most days in 80s with humidity making it feel hotter (or colder it goes both ways!)


Funnily enough I felt the opposite in California during the Summer with the relentless sun and lack of cloud coverage really getting to me. That said the humidity can really put a dent on you, and if it wasn’t for the AC I think we’d all go crazy down here lol.


If you’re hoping to stay in a Democrat area then definitely stick to the major cities in much of the South as they’re typically the only blue in a sea of red - the Orlando area is a great example of this! Its rather progressive in comparison to the state as a whole.


If a desire to be near other family members is there I suggest looking into Broward it has the benefits of being near the large city of Miami, three hours from Disney, near the beach and may offer lower prices than Miami-Dade proper.

However even in Orlando/Central Florida you would be relatively close to your wife’s family but far enough away were it wouldn’t be too often if thats what you wish too 😉

Orlando is full of diverse restaurants with some great Peruvian, Indian, Puerto Rican and Vietnamese coming to mind. Given its the tourism capital a lot more cuisines are on offer that may be more foreign to your family as well, but they’re like perfect entry level ways of getting familiar for that cuisine.

I will say after taking a dip in the Pacific waters I don’t blame you! If I wanted to freeze I’d just take a cold shower lol , Florida’s water tend to be warm year round making beach going a relaxing day.

Once y’all hit the Florida resident status for Disney wherever your are in the state you do get those cheaper annual pass options, tickets and special booking deals. Not saying WDW is the same as DL, but it satisfies the need lol. Plus you have the excellent Universal Resort home to some of the best attractions in the state with Spider-Man, Hagrids, Velocicoaster and classic such as the og Jurassic Park and ET rides. Seaworld is also a fantastic value and product as they often do discounted offers for Floridians and partake in Black Friday deals for even cheaper deals.

Reading through the thread I saw you brought up how easy it is to travel to other countries and its true Florida is ina great location to travel across the Caribbean, Latin America and even parts of Europa and other areas of the US. However that flight home to California can be brutal with the time zone shifts, cost, and duration.

I don't mind when it's partly cloudy/ sunny. Just don't like having multiple cold, cloudy days in a row. Ive been to Hawaii a few times so if it's anything like that I won't mind the weather. The tropical cloudy weather seems a bit different to me with the humidity and it feels like the sun always finds a way out. Are there a lot of cloudy days with no sunshine in the Sunshine state?

Im more of an Independent I'd say but these days I'm definitely leaning Red. Just meant to say that I didn't specifically choose those states because they were Red states. If that was the case I'd be picking the panhandle as my Florida destination. I've read even Jacksonville is a little more Conservative? Interesting to hear Orlando is progressive. I'm sure it would feel like Alabama to me in comparison to Los Angeles. Lol.

Oh no real desire to be near her family. lol. Just kidding but all of our close family is here in California. She does have some first cousins there though.

We have a lot of diverse cuisine here but Puerto Rican food isn't really big out here. Plenty of Peruvian, Indian and Vietnamese restaurants though. Especially the latter two. Love Indian and Peruvian food. Vietnamese food is more hit and miss for me.

I think you nailed why I don't go to the beach all that often even though it's only 30 min away. It's freezing! Half the time we go it's just for the drive anyway or just to eat some seafood on the beach.
 

mickEblu

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After following the recent conversation in this thread, I want to offer this:


Six of the ten "happiest"cities in the U.S. are in California according these metrics cited under three categories: personal finances, well-being, and quality of life.

@mickEblu , from the article I note that:



I don't know if the Sac area is in your comfort zone, but FYI.

I'm considering moving there myself, to be closer to competent health care. Humboldt County sucks in that category, and I have family nearby in Davis/Woodland.

Thanks for sharing! I've heard the suburbs outside of Sacramento are nice. Never really considered moving there though. I will say that when I read articles like this it does make me wonder if I have to travel so far to get everything I want.
 

mickEblu

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Except Florida is hot, muggy and has hurricanes. The kids will get tired of Disney parks when they get older. Then you are just living with alligators and never be able to afford to return to California.

The hurricanes don’t really hit central Florida though do they? Point taken on the rest but I wouldn’t be going only for WDW. I’m not sure I’ll ever be afford a nice place here. It would probably take something catastrophic. Wish I would have bought something in 2012.
 

mickEblu

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Except Florida is hot, muggy and has hurricanes. The kids will get tired of Disney parks when they get older. Then you are just living with alligators and never be able to afford to return to California.

You live out here right? Where would you go if you were in my shoes?
 

Rich T

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Another winter break, another chance to catch up on the latest Disney-affiliated animated films.

Lightyear: Honestly, if you can stop thinking about the fact that there's no reason for this movie to exist that isn't at least a little disgusting, it's not that bad. The animation is gorgeous, if a bit colorless, and it does that whole thing that Disney's been obsessed with as of late-an extended prologue beginning, only for the movie to essentially restart 30 minutes later. The characters aren't particularly interesting or distinct, and I imagine that this movie is spending a lot of time ripping off a lot of sci-fi/space entertainment from over the years in ways that are more obvious to people who have seen more in that genre. So it's not actually that bad, it's just so unnecessary and grossly mercenary that the whole thing is tainted from conception. And I'm honestly not entirely sure why they didn't just have Allen voice Buzz here unless they felt (for whatever reason) he didn't have enough range as a performer to inhabit the role. Not that I felt that this Buzz had much more depth or nuance to him than the one in the actual Toy Story films, but I digress.

To speak to rumored ride replacements: while I have no reason to doubt the veracity of the rumor, and could absolutely see some clueless executive trying to make Lightyear Mountain a thing, there are several moments that reminded me of launching into hyperspace, and involved leaping through time and place. It arguably would have made more sense for Star Tours to get Lightyeared than Space, since there are several conspicuous similarities that stood out to me as I was watching the film.

Strange World: I see what Disney's trying to do here. Make an adventure movie. Say something meaningful about family relationships. Demonstrate the studio's gorgeous animation capabilities-there are moments that reminded me of Avatar. The problem is that today's Disney, much like in Raya, can't write in anything other than cliches, and the stupidity of the screenplay utterly destroys the worth of the entire enterprise (and what do you know? This film and Raya, a film with very similar problems, have the same director!). The characters largely are neither written or performed with any distinction, and so we have no reason to care about these people or this story. The celebrities trotted in certainly aren't up to the job-can we go back to hiring actual animation voice talent? Then there might be a fighting chance that the film could rise above its script. But again, too many cliches in scenario and dialogue; if I can picture the characters asking to add each other on Insta, it's too modern. And if Disney or Pixar makes another movie that has a character saying some variation on "when a mother and father love each other very much..." and trying to make it seem like it's a funny joke again, I will scream.

Finally, it's not an original thought, but I would love to get back to where the studios were before Disney bought Pixar and each studio had a distinctive voice. Surely there must be a way for both studios to coexist while maintaining individual identities? The only Disney movies that kinda feel like Disney movies of old are the princess movies, and the only Pixar movies that feel like Pixar movies are the ones directed by Pete Docter. Otherwise, these movies largely feel impersonal and interchangeable. They've become little more than a more sincere, more technically skilled Dreamworks.
Regarding Strange World, I liked the film more than you did (mostly for the visuals, character designs and the Grandather/father/son dynamic), but your description of its flaws are spot-on. I’d add that the editing is all over the place— Trying for a comic book/movie serial feel and not quite hitting the mark. Still enjoyed it, though.
 

Rich T

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Except Florida is hot, muggy and has hurricanes. The kids will get tired of Disney parks when they get older. Then you are just living with alligators and never be able to afford to return to California.
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Hey, the alligators are AWESOME! My neighbor gator turned around to tan his other side today. (I see this guy nearly every day on my walks).

The humidity in the summer defies description, though. I have to change my shirt after getting the mail. On the plus side: No state income tax.
 

Phroobar

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You live out here right? Where would you go if you were in my shoes?
Yup, in fact I lived in west L.A. and when to Notre Dame in the valley. (Go Knights!) I spent a lot of time in the Galleria and places on Van Nuys but never saw Phoebe Cates. I've lived in southern California all my life so I'm itching for someplace new.

Where to go is something we are trying to figure out. I like both Colorado and Arizona. I've been Utah lots of times. That one is just very familiar. Might end up there because of family and were the youngest goes to school. However, I do like North Carolina and Maryland. Wyoming could be fun but too isolated feeling to retire to. The main thing would be culture of a University town or major museum near by so my wife can teach or be a docent. I can work from anywhere.

We are planning on doing a series of trips next year to check out different cities. One trip will be do a route 66 trip to Flagstaff with stops along the way. I'd suggest doing road trips just to check out the rest of the country. Find out about the schools. Explore the country. Find out about the people. I think it will be a culture shock.
 

mickEblu

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Yup, in fact I lived in west L.A. and when to Notre Dame in the valley. (Go Knights!) I spent a lot of time in the Galleria and places on Van Nuys but never saw Phoebe Cates. I've lived in southern California all my life so I'm itching for someplace new.

Where to go is something we are trying to figure out. I like both Colorado and Arizona. I've been Utah lots of times. That one is just very familiar. Might end up there because of family and were the youngest goes to school. However, I do like North Carolina and Maryland. The main thing would be culture of a University town or major museum near by so my wife can teach or be a docent. I can work from anywhere.

We are planning on doing a series of trips next year to check out different cities. One trip will be do a route 66 trip to Flagstaff with stops along the way. I'd suggest doing road trips just to check out the rest of the country. Find out about the schools. Explore the country. Find out about the people.

No way! I went to Crespi. My cousins went to Notre Dame. Mom used to drag me to the Fashion Square all the time. I saw sweet sweet Robbie Schneider (as Adam Sandler once called him) once at the Galleria (when it was still an indoor mall). This is right around the time Beverly Hill Billies the movie came out. I can still remember him telling me not to put my finger in the bird cage at the pet store. I went to Dixie Canyon Elementary in Sherman Oaks for 4th, -6th grade. When I was there the Olsen twins were in my sisters Kindergarten class. I’m not sure if you re all that familiar with the Sherman Oaks area but Tony’s Liquor had the best burgers once upon a time.

Good idea. Road trips sound like a fun and productive way to go about it. Might leave the two year old at home though. Haha

Edit: @Phroobar from what I understand companies are starting to lower your salary if you move out of state which is kind of concerning.
 

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