The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

Californian Elitist

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And Forever
Each moment with yooouuuu…

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BubbaisSleep

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Haven't tried all the restaurants in DTD so can't say for certain, but I really liked Ralph Brennan's Jazz Kitchen (good food for a reasonable price and the beignets are better than the ones in Disneyland) and detested Napolini (average pizzas but way overpriced).
The worst pizza I've ever had in my life was from Napolini sadly. They gave me a pizza with no sauce one time, it was so disgusting.
 

PiratesMansion

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No matter how much internet ink is wasted stating otherwise, Naples and Napolini are forever tainted by the Via Napoli association (tried THAT restaurant twice and found it resoundingly mediocre both times) and I will never give them money as a result.
 

Disney Irish

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Disney, and other large corporations, need to back off of coming out and pushing comments on political issues. Please focus on your corporate mission, and if a small portion are going to walk out if you don't....LET THEM GO ! All of these people are trying to shape things through their companies which should not be allowed. Do it on your own time and don't hold the company you work for hostage. Losers.
Sorry, after recent Supreme Court cases it was upheld that Corporations are Citizens and have similar rights as the same including making political donations and using their platform to speak out on all sorts of topics.

While I don't agree with certain aspects of it, especially on how its been used as a weapon by certain groups in recent elections, it is the law of the land. So it has to be accepted that Corporations just like people can be on both sides of the political spectrum.
 

Sir_Cliff

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Sorry, after recent Supreme Court cases it was upheld that Corporations are Citizens and have similar rights as the same including making political donations and using their platform to speak out on all sorts of topics.

While I don't agree with certain aspects of it, especially on how its been used as a weapon by certain groups in recent elections, it is the law of the land. So it has to been accepted that Corporations just like people can be on both sides of the political spectrum.
Yes, I agree with this and don't think you can have it both ways. Consumers are certainly free to not patronise and be vocal about companies doing things they don't agree with. It seems something else when you have politicians threatening retaliation such as taking away the Reedy Creek Improvement District or not renewing Mickey Mouse's copyright unless Disney stops espousing policy positions with which they disagree. At least legally, it's no different from the government suddenly making life difficult for individuals who speak out on the same issues and, say, reconsidering a permit for your small business if you actively oppose a policy position of the government.
 

Disney Irish

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Yes, I agree with this and don't think you can have it both ways. Consumers are certainly free to not patronise and be vocal about companies doing things they don't agree with. It seems something else when you have politicians threatening retaliation such as taking away the Reedy Creek Improvement District or not renewing Mickey Mouse's copyright unless Disney stops espousing policy positions with which they disagree. At least legally, it's no different from the government suddenly making life difficult for individuals who speak out on the same issues and, say, reconsidering a permit for your small business if you actively oppose a policy position of the government.
Yep agree, it does go both ways. For consumers the largest voice they have is their wallet.

As for the rest, well I'm sure if it really happens it'll get challenged in court and we'll see how it gets argued that x benefit was taken away as a political punishment, which effectively it is.
 

TP2000

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Just to put a nice big bow on the conversation we had here about Will Smith and the Oscars...

Since Will Smith already resigned immediately from the Academy last week, he's now been banned from attending any Oscars ceremony for 10 years. Ouch. :oops:

I think that's appropriate, but I honestly didn't think modern Hollywood still had that kind of backbone left. But good for them for regrowing a backbone quickly and taking a stand against workplace violence at their events, boorish behavior from Academy members, and tackiness in general on national television.

 

No Name

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Since Will Smith already resigned immediately from the Academy last week, he's now been banned from attending any Oscars ceremony for 10 years. Ouch. :oops:
The last time Will was at the Oscars was apparently 8 years ago and the last time he was even nominated for anything was 15 years ago. Here is a good article from a bad website on why the punishment really doesn’t mean anything.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/08/oscars-punishment-for-will-smith-slap-is-pathetic-and-weak/amp/

It’s really nothing more than a slap on the wrist!
 

TP2000

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The last time Will was at the Oscars was 8 years ago and the last time he was even nominated for anything was 15 years ago. Here is a good article from a bad website on why the punishment really doesn’t mean anything.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/08/oscars-punishment-for-will-smith-slap-is-pathetic-and-weak/amp/

I'd honestly expected them to give him a slap on the wrist, maybe a 2 or 3 year ban from attending the Oscars to provide a safer environment for people working at the event.

But 10 years seems big to me. But what do I know? I don't really care about the Oscars any more, and the movies they nominate are bizarre little artsy fartsy films that hardly anyone pays to see.

Will Smith won't be able to attend, even if he's nominated for something. Which, he probably won't be as part of his punishment.
 

No Name

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I'd honestly expected them to give him a slap on the wrist, maybe a 2 or 3 year ban from attending the Oscars to provide a safer environment for people working at the event.

But 10 years seems big to me. But what do I know? I don't really care about the Oscars any more, and the movies they nominate are bizarre little artsy fartsy films that hardly anyone pays to see.

Will Smith won't be able to attend, even if he's nominated for something. Which, he probably won't be as part of his punishment.
Yeah, if anything it sounds like a big deal, and that’s worth something. That’s the Oscars’ specialty, sounding like a big deal.

The real damage will be to his career. The article jokes about this but Will Smith actually has the most nominations and wins of any person in Kids Choice Awards history. That’s really his market, and The Slap definitely went against everything he’s built himself up to be.

It takes a whole career to build a reputation but a single moment to destroy it. Someone’s said that, can’t remember who.
 

Disney Irish

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Will Smith won't be able to attend, even if he's nominated for something. Which, he probably won't be as part of his punishment.
There is nothing preventing him from being nominated. And if he happens to win during the next 10 years they'll accept it on his behalf.
 
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TP2000

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There is nothing preventing him from being nominated. And if he happens to win during the next 10 years, he'll accept it remotely or they'll accept it on his behalf.

Nope, no Zoom calls for him. Noted in blue.

"The Board has decided, for a period of 10 years from April 8, 2022, Mr. Smith shall not be permitted to attend any Academy events or programs, in person or virtually, including but not limited to the Academy Awards," Academy President David Rubin and CEO Dawn Hudson said in a statement on Friday.

They'll get around that virtual clause by simply ignoring him and not nominating him for anything until 2032. He's persona non grata in Hollywood now. As it should be.

Again, I'm just surprised modern Hollywood regrew a backbone of sorts. After decades of fawning over and/or ignoring the behavior of Harvey Weinstein, Roman Polanski, and a hundred or so other creeps in that dirty and degraded industry town.
 

Disney Irish

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Nope, no Zoom calls for him. Noted in blue.

"The Board has decided, for a period of 10 years from April 8, 2022, Mr. Smith shall not be permitted to attend any Academy events or programs, in person or virtually, including but not limited to the Academy Awards," Academy President David Rubin and CEO Dawn Hudson said in a statement on Friday.

They'll get around that virtual clause by simply ignoring him and not nominating him for anything until 2032. He's persona non grata in Hollywood now. As it should be.

Again, I'm just surprised modern Hollywood regrew a backbone of sorts.

Yes, I just corrected the virtual part. They'll accept any win on his behalf.

But the fact remains he can still be nominated, and can still win.

In fact there is speculation of him still being nominated in 2023 for Emancipation, which is slated to be released later this year.
 

Disney Irish

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Yeah... and Harvey Weinstein will be returning to his office shortly. ;)
If you say so, but it is a possibility of Smith being nominated again and as early as next year.

There will likely never be a ban on nominations, and its because Hollywood has a dark past as they tried it before and it didn't go well:

 

the.dreamfinder

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Has anyone visited Trader Sam’s during the pandemic? I’m going to be at DLR in May and would like to try it, but it seems like it’s quite difficult to get into these days; not that it was easy prepandemic. Is it still worth it? Any tips on actually getting in would be appreciated.
 

CaptinEO

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Has anyone visited Trader Sam’s during the pandemic? I’m going to be at DLR in May and would like to try it, but it seems like it’s quite difficult to get into these days; not that it was easy prepandemic. Is it still worth it? Any tips on actually getting in would be appreciated.
I had a resevation this December. was our first time there. It took us over an hour after checking in for our appointment for us to get in. This is only because I took the initiative to go up and talk to them two different times. Somehow we were forgotten.

No apologies or comps for this. I'm a patient guy but this was just awful customer service.

The line to talk to the person at the host stand is 10 minutes alone and they are swamped.

Inside it's cool and all and we enjoyed it, but service is slow as even during the busy holiday season they only had one waiter.

So tired of Disney constantly cutting staff over the last 20 years.
 

PiratesMansion

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I had a resevation this December. was our first time there. It took us over an hour after checking in for our appointment for us to get in. This is only because I took the initiative to go up and talk to them two different times. Somehow we were forgotten.

No apologies or comps for this. I'm a patient guy but this was just awful customer service.

The line to talk to the person at the host stand is 10 minutes alone and they are swamped.

Inside it's cool and all and we enjoyed it, but service is slow as even during the busy holiday season they only had one waiter.

So tired of Disney constantly cutting staff over the last 20 years.
That definitely sounds like an awful experience, but given the well-publicized staffing shortages that most companies have had, Disney included, I don't know if we can say with 100% certainty that it was just Disney being cheap here.
 

CaptinEO

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That definitely sounds like an awful experience, but given the well-publicized staffing shortages that most companies have had, Disney included, I don't know if we can say with 100% certainty that it was just Disney being cheap here.
As I mentioned they've been cutting staff since the early 2000s. I remember in 2019 how at the Stage Door Cafe they had 6 registers but just two people, one was at a register and one was "mobile order". Micechat at the time reported it was permanent.

Also in 2019 the parking booth attendants changed from 2 employees per booth (one on each side), to just one.

Then they cut entertainment such as the Trolley Boys amongst other things.

That's just in one year, and this is prepandemic.

They've been slowly cutting staff for 20 years.

Is it possible there was a staffing issue? Yes. But I think the trend shows Disney loves operating short staffed without caring about the guest experience.
 

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