The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[mickEblu]

Rise of the Resistance is growing on me y’all. I think it has crept into my TOP 5 at DL. Seeing it through my sons eyes definitely has something to do with it. The attraction has a nice emotional arc. Not quite as good as Splash but I think better than Indy. I really enjoy the ending from the drop shaft/ simulator through the outdoor scene when we find out Beck is ok. I enjoy his dialogue and how ride wraps up with the triumphant music. Have also always loved the aesthetics of the unload area.

 

[No Name]

I just wish Rise had a motion base in the vehicle. I mean imagine if Indy had no motion base? It would add so much to the ride, which right now has a lot of calm meandering during intense parts. Like when you’re shot at, the vehicle should jolt a little. There’s already a height requirement because of the simulator drop at the end so there’s really no good excuse.

MMRR could desperately use a motion base too. Alas SeaWorld Orlando’s Antarctica ride is the only trackless lps ride I’ve been on with one, and it made it suck a lot less.

 

[mickEblu]

I just wish Rise had a motion base in the vehicle. I mean imagine if Indy had no motion base? It would add so much to the ride, which right now has a lot of calm meandering during intense parts. Like when you’re shot at, the vehicle should jolt a little. There’s already a height requirement because of the simulator drop at the end so there’s really no good excuse.

MMRR could desperately use a motion base too. Alas SeaWorld Orlando’s Antarctica ride is the only trackless lps ride I’ve been on with one, and it made it suck a lot less.

I agree that it would make the ride more fun but there is no reason the vehicles should jolt just because we’re shot at and missed. It makes sense in Indy as the Jeep is making its way around the caves on uneven terrain. In ROTR we re on smooth Star destroyer floors which brings up another point entirely. Would a Star Destroyer be the gazillion dollar hill I’m going to die on when building the Star Wars E ticket of the century? Probably not. Does it makes sense though? Yeah I think so. It’s probably the most common sight between all 9 saga films. Well between that and Tatooine/ desert planet. If my choices were Star Destroyer or Tattoine I’d go with the former.

 

[No Name]

I agree that it would make the ride more fun but there is no reason the vehicles should jolt just because we’re shot at and missed. It makes sense in Indy as the Jeep is making its way around the caves on uneven terrain. In ROTR we re on smooth Star destroyer floors which brings up another point entirely. Would a Star Destroyer be the gazillion dollar hill I’m going to die on when building the Star Wars E ticket of the century? Probably not. Does it makes sense though? Yeah I think so. It’s probably the most common sight between all 9 saga films. Well between that and Tatooine/ desert planet. If my choices were Star Destroyer or Tattoine I’d go with the former.

Yeah you’re right it wouldn’t make total sense. My thinking was that if the vehicle were hit, it would (story-wise) jolt a little horizontally, so the motion base could kind of simulate that quick motion. Or maybe the First Order just has fun tilty vehicles.. mostly I do just think it would match the energy of the action and be a lot more fun lol.

 

[mickEblu]

Yeah you’re right it wouldn’t make total sense. My thinking was that if the vehicle were hit, it would (story-wise) jolt a little horizontally, so the motion base could kind of simulate that quick motion. Or maybe the First Order just has fun tilty vehicles.. mostly I do just think it would match the energy of the action and be a lot more fun lol.

Definitely agree that it would help match the stimuli around us in a physical way and make the ride more fun. That’s been one of my main critiques of the ride but lately I have been appreciating some of the elements such as the wind, sound effects and score.

 

[Practical Pig]

I just wish Rise had a motion base in the vehicle. I mean imagine if Indy had no motion base? It would add so much to the ride, which right now has a lot of calm meandering during intense parts. Like when you’re shot at, the vehicle should jolt a little. There’s already a height requirement because of the simulator drop at the end so there’s really no good excuse.

According to this "How it Works" video, a motion base in the vehicles would require them to move at a slower speed. Omitting it apparently "allows them to move faster through the ride and makes the experience more thrilling and boosts capacity." I suspect capacity was Disney's driving force.

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[lazyboy97o]

I agree that it would make the ride more fun but there is no reason the vehicles should jolt just because we’re shot at and missed. It makes sense in Indy as the Jeep is making its way around the caves on uneven terrain.

The EMVs don’t just move based on the terrain. They do have movements that don’t make sense for an actual vehicle but help to convey the emotion of the scene.

 

[Phroobar]

This. This this this!!!! x1000!!!

Disney can't blame the customer when the company has created a system that makes no sense. Especially when the parks operated without this nutjob system for the past SIXTY years. Disney should be more accommodating of people misunderstanding their policy instead of turning people away. I'm no business expert, but it seems pretty obvious that the last thing you want to do is turn away cu$tomer$ at the door. Especially when they've already paid!

That's because the minimum wage cast member "manager" at the gate isn't smart enough to think about that.

 

[mickEblu]

The EMVs don’t just move based on the terrain. They do have movements that don’t make sense for an actual vehicle but help to convey the emotion of the scene.

That may be true but it’s a moot point as we re still driving a Jeep through caves and over rope bridges and not sliding over smooth floors. The rider has already bought into the concept that they are off roading. For the record I don’t think “it has to make sense” for ROTR I was just pointing out the differences and why they probably chose not to go the same route they went with Indy

 

[Sharon&Susan]

Nice to see that Oswald is back at DCA in the Micechat update! Not sure if this is new or not, I didn't know if he'd return after they cut the walkaround back in 2018-ish (I think?).

 

[SuddenStorm]

Nice to see that Oswald is back at DCA in the Micechat update! Not sure if this is new or not, I didn't know if he'd return after they cut the walkaround back in 2018-ish (I think?).

This week's update was one of the better ones they've done recently.

 

[chadwpalm]

According to this "How it Works" video, a motion base in the vehicles would require them to move at a slower speed. Omitting it apparently "allows them to move faster through the ride and makes the experience more thrilling and boosts capacity." I suspect capacity was Disney's driving force.

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That channel "Amusement Labs" is run by a teenager who has no insider sources and just infers all of the things he talks about. His About tab used to say:

"Information shared will not always be 100% accurate and is based off of the aforementioned research, investigation, observation and extrapolations based on familiarity, inference and experience. Amusement Labs is not affiliated in any manner or capacity with the companies presented and should not be interpreted as so."

He recently changed it, but I had it saved because the RotR Wikipedia page has a section that is sourced from this video and I used it in the Talk section as an argument as to why it should be removed.

I wouldn't trust everything he says in his videos since he's only speculating most stuff based on similar things.

 

[chadwpalm]

Anyone think the Red Car Trolley is done for? Seems odd it isn’t back yet and no mention of it from what I have seen. Issues having it go through the Avengers Campus?

Fresh Baked is speculating based on a "rumor" that it is coming back soon along with the News Boys. Take that with a pinch of salt.

 

[Practical Pig]

That channel "Amusement Labs" is run by a teenager who has no insider sources and just infers all of the things he talks about. His About tab used to say:

"Information shared will not always be 100% accurate and is based off of the aforementioned research, investigation, observation and extrapolations based on familiarity, inference and experience. Amusement Labs is not affiliated in any manner or capacity with the companies presented and should not be interpreted as so."

He recently changed it, but I had it saved because the RotR Wikipedia page has a section that is sourced from this video and I used it in the Talk section as an argument as to why it should be removed.

I wouldn't trust everything he says in his videos since he's only speculating most stuff based on similar things.

Good to know. Thanks.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Nice to see that Oswald is back at DCA in the Micechat update! Not sure if this is new or not, I didn't know if he'd return after they cut the walkaround back in 2018-ish (I think?).

I saw him last year in September.

 

[waltography]

Fresh Baked is speculating based on a "rumor" that it is coming back soon along with the News Boys. Take that with a pinch of salt.

I'd love to see the News Boys come back with new instrumentation; I never cared for the poor man's electroswing they had.

 

[CaptinEO]

This week's update was one of the better ones they've done recently.

Micechat is back to what the site used to be, which is fantastic. It's not people gushing over the newest merchandise collection at a preview event, it's a site with valid, detailed reports.

A few years back I felt they had lost me.

Its not about being negative, plenty of Disney fans are these days, it's about showcasing the park and its operations and calling out the faults (and praising the good elements).

I feel as of recent that they are doing a great job continuing MiceAge and Al Lutz' legacy.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Micechat is back to what the site used to be, which is fantastic. It's not people gushing over the newest merchandise collection at a preview event, it's a site with valid, detailed reports.

A few years back I felt they had lost me.

Its not about being negative, plenty of Disney fans are these days, it's about showcasing the park and its operations and calling out the faults.

Yeah, I still think it has a ways to go before it gets anywhere close to what it was when Lutz was around. And Andy Castro's park updates were among the best. But I plan on tuning into the park updates again if they continue to be like this week's. It was refreshing to see detailed photos of Disneyland (and I'm glad I'm not the only person who's taken detailed photos of the ground on Main Street and posted them online!)

I've met a few of the Micechat people in passing over the years and for the most part they've been perfectly pleasant people.

 

[DrAlice]

Has anyone watched Red Panda yet? I read a bunch of hullabaloo about it which caused me to seek out the trailer. To my old lady eyes, it looks predictable and "done before". Maybe it was just the trailer with it's cringey "Disney trying to be hip" thing that turned me off??

Is it actually good?

 

[PiratesMansion]

Has anyone watched Red Panda yet? I read a bunch of hullabaloo about it which caused me to seek out the trailer. To my old lady eyes, it looks predictable and "done before". Maybe it was just the trailer with it's cringey "Disney trying to be hip" thing that turned me off??

Is it actually good?

I watched it over the weekend and I felt like it was good but not great.

I personally don't care for the Disney/Pixar movies of the past decade trying to seem more contemporary in tone and feel whereas the more timeless feel of many of the older films, but perhaps others feel differently. They DID nail the teenage characters, which felt fairly accurate to how young teenagers behave and perceive the world.

It does do an excellent job of capturing and depicting in a child-friendly way what going through puberty feels like and how everything onsets so suddenly. I would have preferred if the panda piece was more metaphorical than it turned out to be (and in real life red pandas are racoon-sized, which distracted me the whole movie), but oh well.

The animation was beautiful, and it seems clear that Pixar is moving away from photo-realism into a somewhat more stylized direction, as seen in this film and Soul and Luca. Not bad, just different.

The "controversy" that the film has attracted about *gasp* depicting puberty onset accurately has been weird and baffling considering it's about something that every single adult has experienced and has been frequently depicted in film before this. I don't get it.

Anyway, long story short: it's a fine film that's not in the top tier but was clearly made with a lot of care and was focused on telling a very specific story that will resonate with a lot of people. It's not deserving of the vitriol that's being thrown its way at all.