The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[mickEblu]

He did one of the light boxes but not a model of the actual ride. Imagine how nice a Splash Mountain would look!

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He did All of Main Street, and the main Fantasyland plaza but not Small World or Matterhorn. He also did Jungle Cruise, Pirates, Mansion, and the Mark Twain.

But seriously the fact they don't have a Big Thunder, Splash, Matterhorn, or Space Mountain is a crime. Heck, there's no reason for Disney to not be selling Space Mountain paperweights.

That’s too bad!! Why did he stop? Matterhorn and IASW would have been great too. I’ll have to settle for my Bob Gurr one…

 

[TP2000]

That’s very interesting. Do you think it started with the societal norms/ expectations changing thereby making testosterone levels decrease over time? With that said, not sure a few decades would be enough time to cause such a drastic change.

$hitty food quality? Rise of Soy products?

I've read that it's probably a combination of things. Diet, lifestyle, "anxiety" issues (but that could be chicken/egg thing), high fructose corn syrup in everything, etc., etc.

But what is patently obvious to anyone with vision and a memory is that young men under 40 today look softer, rounder, goofier, less developed than the the men of 50 years ago. (On the flip side, with the use of supplements and scientific diets, the men who try to build their bodies today look bigger and more muscular than the "big" guys of yesteryear. But that takes work and money. I'm just talking about average guys in general.)

The statistics on the rapid drop in testosterone rates among men is the scientific proof of that, aside from just looking around with your own eyes.

 

[TP2000]

Maybe it's that high testosterone isn't necessary to live in the modern world?

That's a physiological change that would take a very long time to change through evolution.

We're talking a change that got going maybe three decades ago. Although that video from a Fullerton high school in 1962 was quite telling, and that's a mere 60 years ago. Many of those guys in that news clip are still alive and would be 78 today.

 

[TP2000]

That's so crazy that people actually think this way. How can anyone ignore history and pretend that the modern generation is the first time African Americans have had a chance to be a part of popular culture.

Even in music you have amazingly talented popular musicians such as Louie Armstrong, Little Richard, James Brown, Jimmie Hendrix, etc. Michael Jackson still has the best selling album of all time. The Jackson 5 had their own cartoon show and live action variety show as well.

TV Shows such as the Cosby Show and are very smart and sophisticated.

It was brought up in the context of young Black folks the man himself knew. Somehow the education and/or media system has many of them convinced that Black people weren't allowed to be seen or heard from until Obama became President when they were little kids. They think Black-ish was the first Black sitcom ever, was a funny line he threw out.

The mind boggles at both the narcissism of a generation like that, and the stupidity of their media sources (and the generation!) who have immediate access to Google every waking minute to easily debunk that assertion. And I don't think it's just Black kids, I think there's plenty of white and Latino and Asian kids who think the same way today.

It was a really interesting point. But since it was a party and not a roundtable discussion on race, the topic flowed on to different stuff within a few minutes. But the point was made. And I can completely see it.

 

[TP2000]

Somewhat related but in general I've noticed generations getting smaller and smaller physically, even in my senior year of high school multiple teachers commented on it. My sci fi teacher senior year said he thought the incoming freshmen were middle schoolers so I realized there was some truth to my observations. I don't know if there's a reason for that, if people just aren't performing in sports as much or some other reason. There are on the other end of the spectrum also 16 year olds who look like they're in their mid 20's but most commonly kids and teens just look younger and younger. Obviously the drop in testosterone you mentioned is part of it but I really am curious what the difference is even just that the 4 years between me being a freshman and being a senior was significant enough that multiple of my teachers commented on it at the time.

That's concerning if true. I'm not a good judge of that because I'm too old now and anyone under 30 looks like a kid to me.

Could it be that schoolchildren today aren't drinking enough milk and protein? I shudder to think there are moms who stock Soy Milk in the fridge for their 12 year old boy to drink. A growing boy needs real milk and lots of animal protein and good, hearty food. If he's active and involved with friends, he'll burn those calories in an hour and grow taller than his father. That's how it worked for hundreds of years.

Later, when he's 30, he can go on fad diets and be Vegan and buy t-shirts that tell everyone about it.

But when a child is growing into their teens, they need every drop of quality real food they can get.

 

[SuddenStorm]

This thread is making me feel like I should do some push ups or something...

 

[mlayton144]

I've read that it's probably a combination of things. Diet, lifestyle, "anxiety" issues (but that could be chicken/egg thing), high fructose corn syrup in everything, etc., etc.

But what is patently obvious to anyone with vision and a memory is that young men under 40 today look softer, rounder, goofier, less developed than the the men of 50 years ago. (On the flip side, with the use of supplements and scientific diets, the men who try to build their bodies today look bigger and more muscular than the "big" guys of yesteryear. But that takes work and money. I'm just talking about average guys in general.)

The statistics on the rapid drop in testosterone rates among men is the scientific proof of that, aside from just looking around with your own eyes.

First of all, who cares?

Isn’t this the same kind of bantering about the older generations saying that the younger is going to hell in a hand basket? It’s been that way since recorded history started. I personally find the younger generations (I’m in early 50s) much more intelligent, civil , and tolerant. Do you honestly think that gays, blacks, and other more historically marginalized people were actually better off 50 years ago? Do you think straight white men were better off? From the reading I’ve done , human welfare has never been better than it is today , which I would assume you would credit to your generation

 

[Phroobar]

I want my Black Cauldron dark ride!

 

[SplashJacket]

I haven’t seen Hamilton And have no real interest too but if the songs are as good as Encantos I might give it a watch. All I know about Lin Manuel is that he is the main guy behind Hamilton, wrote the songs for Moana (which I liked but didn’t love), wrote the songs for Encanto and played Bert in Mary Poppins Returns which I turned off after about 30 minutes and fell asleep.

Absolutely love Hamilton! Just like you, I've been one of the people who's pushed Encanto's to the #1 album, and it's definitely cut from the same tree as Hamilton. I still prefer Hamilton, but that's after hundreds of hours and two trips to the theaters. It's an absolute must-watch.

 

[SplashJacket]

Nah, this one looks more interesting -

Can't wait for the theme park rights to CupHead to be picked up.

 

[TP2000]

First of all, who cares?

Well, at its core it is a growing medical problem. So the scientific and medical community apparently cares. Which is why they've reported on it.

Isn’t this the same kind of bantering about the older generations saying that the younger is going to hell in a hand basket?

No, that was about the younger generation's taste in music, or fashion, or hairstyles. Sometimes politics, but usually just hairdos and hemlines.

It’s been that way since recorded history started. I personally find the younger generations (I’m in early 50s) much more intelligent, civil , and tolerant. Do you honestly think that gays, blacks, and other more historically marginalized people were actually better off 50 years ago? Do you think straight white men were better off? From the reading I’ve done , human welfare has never been better than it is today , which I would assume you would credit to your generation

I'm not sure what race or sexuality has to do with overall declines in testosterone rates and the clearly obvious trend to chubbier, flabbier, softer and more delicate young men of all races now. But...

The human race has never been more comfortable, more affluent, more medically cared for, more coddled and pampered than it is today. Capitalism did most of that, although Communist China would never admit it. But you couldn't tell that things are so good historically from some of the rantings of the young folks. They think the world is ending in 8 years. And I really do think they think that. It saddens me to think they believe all the Tweets.

Humanity evolves, the American experiment grows and improves. We don't go from Frederick Douglass straight to Barack Obama. Nor do we go from the Mattachine Society straight (pardon the pun) to Richard Grenell. Each generation stands on the shoulders of the generation before it. History and humanity ebbs and flows.

It would just be nice if the current young generation of Official Good People realized they were standing on other people's shoulders right now.

 

[TP2000]

I want my Black Cauldron dark ride!

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I once did the Castle Walkthrough Tour at Tokyo Disneyland that was based on this movie. It was absolutely bizarre. The frantic hostess blabbering excitedly only in Japanese didn't help. But the visuals and environs of this story were just... weird.

It's now a frilly sugary sweet Princess attraction in Tokyo.

 

[CaptinEO]

It was brought up in the context of young Black folks the man himself knew. Somehow the education and/or media system has many of them convinced that Black people weren't allowed to be seen or heard from until Obama became President when they were little kids. They think Black-ish was the first Black sitcom ever, was a funny line he threw out.

The mind boggles at both the narcissism of a generation like that, and the stupidity of their media sources (and the generation!) who have immediate access to Google every waking minute to easily debunk that assertion. And I don't think it's just Black kids, I think there's plenty of white and Latino and Asian kids who think the same way today.

It was a really interesting point. But since it was a party and not a roundtable discussion on race, the topic flowed on to different stuff within a few minutes. But the point was made. And I can completely see it.

That's really odd and almost pretentious of them to assign these major moments to their own generation.

It's absolutely delusional on every level.

 

[TP2000]

This thread is making me feel like I should do some push ups or something...

I thought I was the only one!

 

[TP2000]

Just read about this. What a sad world. 7 dwarves can’t live together in a cottage now. Lol

On another note I guess I don’t understand why they feel they have to be so inclusive on their remakes when they have wonderful original movies like Encanto and Coco. We re assuming you re only going to do these remakes once Disney (or at least we hope) Maybe I’m wrong but I feel that the vast majority of Disney fans would prefer to see the animated version come to life. Not to make these weird “creative” choices and cast a Latina Snow White for a White character based on a German story.

Ten bucks that new Lion King show in the Fantasyland Theater will not have any whites or Asians in lead roles.

Somehow, stories based on the African continent must stick to traditional casting rules circa 1965. But stories based on the European continent are wide open to modern reinterpretation. Because… um…. something something Inclusion!

 

[TP2000]

They already talked about other stuff in the Snow White movie, that she has a Robinhood type boyfriend and that she is a strong woman. If just seems like more junk that wasn't needed.

People just want a live action adaptation of the Disney film that's been a classic for almost 100 years and a fairy tale that has been around for even longer.

But nope, the writers of Disney in 2022 think they know how to improve the story by messing with it.

Don’t worry. Those types of forced woke perspectives almost always guarantee box office failure with paying audiences. See; West Side Story, The 355, Ghostbusters all-girl remake, etc.

As a lifelong James Bond fan, God help Hollywood when they turn him into a strong woman Latinx, and even try and call her a Latinx in press releases.

James Bond survived David Niven and George Lazenby, but I doubt he’ll survive being turned into a Latina that spells it Latinx.

 

[mickEblu]

Don’t worry. Those types of forced woke perspectives almost always guarantee box office failure with paying audiences. See; West Side Story, The 355, Ghostbusters all-girl remake, etc.

As a lifelong James Bond fan, God help Hollywood when they turn him into a strong woman Latinx, and even try and call her a Latinx in press releases.

James Bond survived David Niven and George Lazenby, but I doubt he’ll survive being turned into a Latina that spells it Latinx.

Yup. Maybe after they re done with these all inclusive remakes they ll go back to making original stories with a clean slate and away from crappy movies that get overshadowed by insert (different race) for classic characters for Twitter likes.

 

[TP2000]

Yup. Maybe after they re done with these all inclusive remakes they ll go back to making original stories with a clean slate and away from crappy movies that get overshadowed by insert (different race) for classic characters for Twitter likes.

The box office numbers on these types of Hollywood experiments speak for themselves, especially recently.

Eventually the sharp pencil boys are going to have to step in and ask that they stop their virtue signaling to a small minority of people who don't actually buy tickets to the movies.

 

[Phroobar]

I once did the Castle Walkthrough Tour at Tokyo Disneyland that was based on this movie. It was absolutely bizarre. The frantic hostess blabbering excitedly only in Japanese didn't help. But the visuals and environs of this story were just... weird.

It's now a frilly sugary sweet Princess attraction in Tokyo.

The anti-princess ride is exactly what Disneyland needs.

 

[mickEblu]

I didn't know what you were talking about, so I had to Google.

My God. The effort these Hollywood types go to in order to be so miserable and unhappy is stunning.

So... Peter Dinklage (who I've never heard of before, but I giggle when I say his name out loud) is mad that there's seven dwarves in the Snow White movie? And he claims dwarves are "disabled"? I've never thought of dwarves as disabled, they're just short. And yet Disney's Burbank team grovels to the Twitter mob and claims the seven dwarves are no longer dwarves but are now "magical creatures"? So making these short humans suddenly inhuman somehow fixes things?

The mind boggles at how this seems logical to some, and how miserable they must be to see life through their prism.

No TP, Peter Dinklage didn’t change the story of the future Snow White love action remake. “It was always in the plans.” Just like Splash Mountain. No way they cave to someone Twitter.