The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

mickEblu

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Orlando is just fine if you can take the humidity and afternoon thunderstorms for about 9 months out of the year. I experienced it as a kid, so the joys of running around the neighborhood in rain or living 10 minutes from WDW were what I came to expect. I've been back twice since '94 (most recently in 2012) and really not much changed at all.

LA is definitely a rich person's town. Within the American Dream there is definitely an LA Dream which says that once you arrive, you too can "make it" and have everything you've desired... a beachfront home, celebrity friends, and a nice convertible... Works for some, but then again, so does winning the lottery.


Im just over here still shooting for the American Dream surrounded by people living the LA Dream. Of course, life isn’t all about that stuff and I’m good with a simple life but it has to be the right kind of simple life. Not sure if you can find that here.
 

Mac Tonight

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Im just over here still shooting for the American Dream surrounded by people living the LA Dream. Of course, life isn’t all about that stuff and I’m good with a simple life but it has to be the right kind of simple life. Not sure if you can find that here.
Definitely with you there. Simple living is ideal (but still expensive) out here in LA. Elsewhere, it's much more possible.
 

PiratesMansion

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There’s actually 59. Which one are you missing? I still need to watch Make Mine Music, Melody Time, Fantasia 2000 and I don’t think I’ve seen the original Fantasia since I rented as a kid and fast forwarded through different segments.

I thought Chicken Little and Treasure Planet were OK but I also saw them both like 4 years ago so my expectations were very low. Atlantis is AWFUL.

EDIT. I’m wrong . 58
Make Mine Music is meh honestly. Melody Time and Fantasia 2000 both exceeded my modest expectations.

I think a full rewatch of Fantasia is a good idea. Not all segments are fantastic (the Pastorale segment has always tried my patience), but some are masterpieces.
I did this too over the summer (well sort of, I skipped a couple that I had zero interest in). It was an interesting experience.

In fact I actually put together a tier list ranking:

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Always interesting to see how other people rank their movies.

I thought Bolt was charming (then again, I literally was paid to watch it on the clock) and Frozen II is interesting, if not particularly cohesive or effective. Still, I'd put both of those above some of the movies you've placed higher.

You're not missing anything by skipping Dinosaur or Meet the Robinsons.
What specifically made you dislike Treasure Planet? Just curious— for me, it’s a near-masterpiece in many ways, but sabotaged by being forced into the “Disney Formula.” I think everything that’s played seriously (John Silver, Jim, Jim’s Mom, the Captain) works great, but the supposedly “funny” characters ruin everything (especially the Martin-Short voiced android). The lowpoint is the alien crewmember who literally exists to be a walking fart joke. I still like the film a lot for many great scenes, but I find it the most *frustrating* Disney film to watch because it could have really worked if they’d just ditched all the lame attempts at forced comedy. The “serious” characters already had enough natural humor to carry the story.
The robot character was awful, but I don't remember the movie well enough to really go into detail-I just remember feeling like the conceit wasn't thought through particularly well and Deep Canvas, for me, hasn't really worked outside of Tarzan.
Woke up this morning with a very clear mind and kind of came to the realization that I need to move out of LA/ California. As sad as it would be move away from literally ALL of my family and leave the only home I’ve ever known, I believe it’s the right thing to do for myself and my family. The cost of living here is too damn high and I just want a better quality of life for my family. I could buy a very nice home in some of the areas I’m looking at for what it costs to rent a two bedroom apartment here. It’s also too congested. I want to be somewhere with less traffic and just less people. Somewhere where a car or person doesn’t want to be be where you are at all times. A place where you can take a breath even for a second without feeling the need to rush. I’d also like a better school system for my kids. I also just need to shake things up. I live 2 miles from where I was born and have never left. Didn’t even go away for College. Went to school right here.

The only two things that I think I’ll miss about LA other than family are some of the great restaurants (depending where I end up) and the weather although most of the places on my list have good to decent weather. All that other stuff like “you can surf and ski in the same day” don’t apply to me. I live 28 mi from Malibu and I go like 3 times a year. I haven’t skied since I was 10. Never been into the club scene or into nightlife in general. I’ll miss being close to Disneyland but I can do one really good trip a year when I come visit family. Some of these locations are pretty close to WDW. May become a WDW AP or premiere and just visit DLR a couple times a year when I come back home.

I guess I don’t entirely have to leave California for most of the things on my wish list but the driving factor revolving around schools and vaccine laws in California mean that I do. Don’t really want to get into this as it’s personal and a very political and divisive subject.


Here’s some of the cities I’m looking at. Any strong opinions? Some are a lot more logical than others. Some were just on a list I found that are common cities people move to from California. Some are because they check some of the right boxes and aren’t too far from California. Some I haven’t really looked into yet and may not make sense. Right now, without having done too much research Atlanta seems pretty appealing. Of all the destinations Austin and Atlanta have the most production work available but staying in production is not a deal breaker for me. I also think these two cities are appealing for a variety of other reasons.


Atlanta
Savannah
Austin
Tampa
Jacksonville
Orlando
Miami
Nashville
Dallas
Other cities in Texas?
Vegas
Other cities in Nevada?
Phoenix
Other cities in Arizona?
Portland
Eugene
Idaho?
New Orleans
Utah?
Colorado?


Do you guys have any knowledge of what it is like to live in any of these cities?
While I have never lived there, and it seems like it has some cool restaurants and areas, Atlanta is my least favorite city to drive through. There's always traffic, congestion, and some of the worst drivers you've ever seen.

I wouldn't live in Orlando either. Too hot and humid, another city with awful drivers (maybe it's ok outside of the touristy areas?), I don't think I could deal with constant tourists, and I remember going into a (admittedly Kissimee) Walmart just outside of the tourist path to get some travel supplies that just felt like something out of the Twilight Zone. No awareness of any other people in the store or in the parking lot, everyone moving like mindless zombies, it was quite disturbing.
 

Okee68

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The Sword in the Stone, Disney's "medieval mess". When I watched this for the first time in September, I immediately understood why nobody ever talks about it. Unremarkable animation, dubious voice acting, a nonexistent plot that drags on and on with so many slapstick vignettes that don't have any bearing on anything, and a finale that comes out of nowhere and would have happened regardless of the previous events of the story, followed by an awkward, inconclusive ending which really should have served as the two-thirds point of the film.

The only positives I can think of are the Walt Peregoy backgrounds, the George Bruns score ("The Kitchen's Bewitched" is actually one of my all-time favorite instrumental pieces from a Disney film), the characters of Merlin and Archimedes, and the wizards' duel. I feel that everything else ranges from unsatisfying to flat-out poorly executed.
 

Disney Irish

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Woke up this morning with a very clear mind and kind of came to the realization that I need to move out of LA/ California. As sad as it would be move away from literally ALL of my family and leave the only home I’ve ever known, I believe it’s the right thing to do for myself and my family. The cost of living here is too damn high and I just want a better quality of life for my family. I could buy a very nice home in some of the areas I’m looking at for what it costs to rent a two bedroom apartment here. It’s also too congested. I want to be somewhere with less traffic and just less people. Somewhere where a car or person doesn’t want to be be where you are at all times. A place where you can take a breath even for a second without feeling the need to rush. I’d also like a better school system for my kids. I also just need to shake things up. I live 2 miles from where I was born and have never left. Didn’t even go away for College. Went to school right here.

The only two things that I think I’ll miss about LA other than family are some of the great restaurants (depending where I end up) and the weather although most of the places on my list have good to decent weather. All that other stuff like “you can surf and ski in the same day” don’t apply to me. I live 28 mi from Malibu and I go like 3 times a year. I haven’t skied since I was 10. Never been into the club scene or into nightlife in general. I’ll miss being close to Disneyland but I can do one really good trip a year when I come visit family. Some of these locations are pretty close to WDW. May become a WDW AP or premiere and just visit DLR a couple times a year when I come back home.

I guess I don’t entirely have to leave California for most of the things on my wish list but the driving factor revolving around schools and vaccine laws in California mean that I do. Don’t really want to get into this as it’s personal and a very political and divisive subject.


Here’s some of the cities I’m looking at. Any strong opinions? Some are a lot more logical than others. Some were just on a list I found that are common cities people move to from California. Some are because they check some of the right boxes and aren’t too far from California. Some I haven’t really looked into yet and may not make sense. Right now, without having done too much research Atlanta seems pretty appealing. Of all the destinations Austin and Atlanta have the most production work available but staying in production is not a deal breaker for me. I also think these two cities are appealing for a variety of other reasons.


Atlanta
Savannah
Austin
Tampa
Jacksonville
Orlando
Miami
Nashville
Dallas
Other cities in Texas?
Vegas
Other cities in Nevada?
Phoenix
Other cities in Arizona?
Portland
Eugene
Idaho?
New Orleans
Utah?
Colorado?


Do you guys have any knowledge of what it is like to live in any of these cities?
I have no specific input on potential places outside of California for you to live. I've thought about moving into the Sierra's at one point. But I will say that a lot of the places on your list are quickly becoming "crowded" and "overpriced" as time goes on.

For example Austin is quickly becoming the "Silicon Valley" of Texas. Metro Atlanta has seen a population spike over the last couple decades. And Utah has seen a large tech boom as tech companies moving their data centers there the past 5 years.

What I'm saying is that any metro area you go to is going to have some varying degree of "crowded" and "overpriced". So you may want to consider staying out of metro areas if you can, and sticking with rural if you're trying for "less crowded" and "not overpriced".
 

J4546

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If your not trying to make it in the entertainment industry (or already made it) I dont kow why anyone would live in LA. Im only here for comedy/acting, nothing else
 

mickEblu

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I have no specific input on potential places outside of California for you to live. I've thought about moving into the Sierra's at one point. But I will say that a lot of the places on your list are quickly becoming "crowded" and "overpriced" as time goes on.

For example Austin is quickly becoming the "Silicon Valley" of Texas. Metro Atlanta has seen a population spike over the last couple decades. And Utah has seen a large tech boom as tech companies moving their data centers there the past 5 years.

What I'm saying is that any metro area you go to is going to have some varying degree of "crowded" and "overpriced". So you may want to consider staying out of metro areas if you can, and sticking with rural if you're trying for "less crowded" and "not overpriced".

That’s a good point and I have considered that. With that said, if compared to cost of living here and congestion here every place would feel better in those regards. I realize that real estate is going up in places like Austin or Atlanta but I still think we re in a window that still makes it worth it. For example, The median home price is Atlanta is 287,000 compared to 715,000 in LA.

I’m trying to go for cities in that sweet spot with less congestion and lower cost of living but don’t want to live in the middle of nowhere. Although something tells me I would be ok with that if I actually tried it.
 

Disney Irish

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That’s a good point and I have considered that. With that said, if compared to cost of living here and congestion here every place would feel better in those regards. I realize that real estate is going up in places like Austin or Atlanta but I still think we re in a window that still makes it worth it. For example, The median home price is Atlanta is 287,000 compared to 715,000 in LA.

I’m trying to go for cities in that sweet spot with less congestion and lower cost of living but don’t want to live in the middle of nowhere. Although something tells me I would be ok with that if I actually tried it.
Like I said I considered the Sierra's, places like Placerville and Grass Valley. Just rural enough to be home towny but also large enough to to not be a one horse type town.
 

Californian Elitist

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If your not trying to make it in the entertainment industry (or already made it) I dont kow why anyone would live in LA. Im only here for comedy/acting, nothing else
Some of us come from generations of Angelenos and have called it home for decades. But I assume you could have guessed that.

With the exceptions of the price to live here and the homelessness, I love everything about Los Angeles. I’ll never rep another city like I do my own, L.A. With that being said, I’m ready to call another city, another country home. However, just because I want to leave the country, it doesn’t mean I don’t love L.A., because I do. Many people love it.
 

mickEblu

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Some of us come from generations of Angelenos and have called it home for decades. But I assume you could have guessed that.

With the exceptions of the price to live here and the homelessness, I love everything about Los Angeles. I’ll never rep another city like I do my own, L.A. With that being said, I’m ready to call another city, another country home. However, just because I want to leave the country, it doesn’t mean I don’t love L.A., because I do. Many people love it.

I’ll always love LA but like you I think there may be a better quality of life for me elsewhere. I’m ready to be part of the Lakers “home crowd” at the Hawks games.
 

Californian Elitist

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I’ll always love LA but like you I think there may be a better quality of life for me elsewhere. I’m ready to be part of the Lakers “home crowd” at the Hawks games.
Yes, and there’s nothing wrong with wanting something different. I agree with you that there is a better quality of life outside of L.A. I hope you and your family actually make the move. My mom is a die-hard Angeleno and Californian in general and just can’t understand why I want to leave. I’m not going to let her talk me out of it though lol.

We can be Lakers/Dodgers fans outside of Los Angeles, absolutely. We’re everywhere.😉
 

J4546

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Believe it or not some people are born here. Lol
lol thats true. Im not pooping on people that live here, I just dont get living here with a less than stellar job and paying the insane cost of living unless your making alot of money or have aspirations in the entertainment industry. Or the food industry, the food here is insane.

Im orig from a very small town on the coast of Virginia. Beautiful town, lived on a farm with cows and corn for a while, then to a regular house with a yard. Only 2 stoplight within 20-30 miles of where I grew up, really small and great community.

Then when I was 23ish I moved to Portland Or on a whim. Best decision of my life, met so many new friends, started doing comedy/acting which led me to many great experiences working with people Ive idolized. Dave Attell, Bert Kreischer, Dan Soder, Brian Posehn, Joey Diaz etc..

Then 2 years ago I moved to LA to further comedy/acting. Then covid hit. Now im paying 1500 a month to live in a studio and not do comedy. Hopefully the vaccines roll out soon and things get back to normal
 

Mac Tonight

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lol thats true. Im not pooping on people that live here, I just dont get living here with a less than stellar job and paying the insane cost of living unless your making alot of money or have aspirations in the entertainment industry. Or the food industry, the food here is insane.

Im orig from a very small town on the coast of Virginia. Beautiful town, lived on a farm with cows and corn for a while, then to a regular house with a yard. Only 2 stoplight within 20-30 miles of where I grew up, really small and great community.

Then when I was 23ish I moved to Portland Or on a whim. Best decision of my life, met so many new friends, started doing comedy/acting which led me to many great experiences working with people Ive idolized. Dave Attell, Bert Kreischer, Dan Soder, Brian Posehn, Joey Diaz etc..

Then 2 years ago I moved to LA to further comedy/acting. Then covid hit. Now im paying 1500 a month to live in a studio and not do comedy. Hopefully the vaccines roll out soon and things get back to normal
Slaaaayyyyeeeeeerrrrr!!!!!
 

mickEblu

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Original Poster
Anyone here the latest Jim Hill rumors for DLR? Nothing earth shattering...

Avengers Campus opening Summer 2021

Doctor Strange is more interactive so it may not open with land

MMRR opens 2023 (think we already knew this).

Disney will be updating Jungle Cruise with scenes from the movie (please no).

Disney considering ditching GE timeline making way for Mandalorian / Baby Yoda meet and greets

Future updates to Smugglers Run no earlier than 2024 including Mandalorian mission.

Possible replacing Kylo’s ship with Razor Crest
 
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Mac Tonight

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Anyone here the latest Jim Hill rumors for DLR? Nothing earth shattering...

Avengers Campus opening Summer 2021

Doctor Strange is more interactive so it may not open with land

MMRR opens 2023 (think we already knew this).

Disney will be updating Jungle Cruise with scenes from the movie (please no).
The Jungle Cruise rumor mill has been active since they announced the movie... I just hope they don't try and re-write the schpiel to be quotes from the movie.
 

Rich T

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Anyone here the latest Jim Hill rumors for DLR? Nothing earth shattering...

Avengers Campus opening Summer 2021

Doctor Strange is more interactive so it may not open with land

MMRR opens 2023 (think we already knew this).

Disney will be updating Jungle Cruise with scenes from the movie (please no).

Disney considering ditching GE timeline making way for Mandalorian / Baby Yoda meet and greets

Future Mandalorian updates to Smugglers Run

Possible replacing Kylie ship with Razor Crest
There is absolutely nothing on this list that could get me to plan a trip to DLR anytime in the next three years.
 

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