The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[StarWarsGirl]

I think it doesn't help that people in the Disney fan communities elevate Disney CMs and cut them more slack.

I guarantee you if these same fans had the same bad interaction you see at Disneyland at a McDonalds or Target instead they'd be fuming about it.

But people excuse Disney CMs way too often.

I've worked at a themepark in my teenage years and we had many crowded days but I never was rude to people period.

Fans that defend bad CM behavior instead of complaining about it make the problem worse.

Not saying themepark employees have easy jobs but if they are that miserable it would be beneficial for them to find other minimum wage work instead where they don't deal with as big of crowds.

I think I'm more willing to cut the WDW CMs more slack than the DL CMs because there are just way worse behaved guests at WDW than at DL.

WDW sometimes I'm like...wow. I have never seen such a large group of adults unable to follow simple instructions. And then there are wayyyyy more screaming Karen's because they're like "I paid x amount of dollars for this vacation and I want it to be PERFECT." So I cut the WDW CMs a bit more slack because I'm like...I get it. The people here can be nuts. Plus it's hot, humid, crazy weather and that helps nothing.

DL...yeah, less willing. The guests are pretty nice. There's still some bad behavior, but it's much less. It's a different kind of bad behavior; it's more locals trying to game the system. But it's still far fewer guests. So I'm like...just chill pretty much everyone here is chilled out.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

I will say though the positive thing I saw.

There was a young man, clearly autistic, having a meltdown. For reference, my brother is also autistic, so I'm very familiar with it. It was in Adventureland. It looked like a pretty bad meltdown; he was screaming and covering his ears, even though I could see that he had ear protection on. So he was overstimulated, likely.

The CMs had formed a barrier around the parents and were moving guests along.

I loved how they handled this. They weren't interfering with the parents; it looked like they were giving them enough space to help the young man through the meltdown but weren't interfering. They were also moving guests along to keep guests from gawking. Not that anyone was. I noticed several autistic young men at DL, and guests just appeared to be very unbothered by them. Having been through meltdowns with my brother, this was just handled so beautifully. Felt bad for the young man having had a meltdown; no one wants that.

The lack of judgement in general that people seemed to have (just observing when I saw autistic young men in the parks) was something I really appreciated. I've experienced a LOT of abelism in general back east with my brother. I'm sure it still exists there, but it was definitely different than here.

 

[DrAlice]

Has your 13 year old referred to you as being born in the 1900s?

My 13 year old cousin told me that.

She is, amazingly, still alive.

YES!!!

 

[Disney Irish]

Disney related through 20th Century, one of my 70s/80s crushed passed away, Teri Garr

Teri Garr, Sweet Star of ‘Tootsie’ and ‘Young Frankenstein,’ Dies at 79

The Oscar-nominated actress, who started out as a dancer, revealed in 2002 that she had multiple sclerosis.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

She will be missed.

Comment from Mel himself -

Mel Brooks Recalls The German Accent That Won Teri Garr Her Immortal ‘Young Frankenstein’ Role

Mel Brooks, who directed Teri Garr in the 1974 comedy Young Frankenstein, remembered the actor upon her death yesterday.

deadline.com

And comments from others like Micheal Keaton -

David Letterman, Michael Keaton, Richard Dreyfuss, Steve Martin Among Hollywood Stars Remembering Comedy Legend Teri Garr: “This Is A Day I Feared”

Teri Garr's costars and colleagues pay tribute to the late actress.

deadline.com

 

[TP2000]

David Letterman, Michael Keaton, Richard Dreyfuss, Steve Martin Among Hollywood Stars Remembering Comedy Legend Teri Garr: “This Is A Day I Feared”

Teri Garr's costars and colleagues pay tribute to the late actress.

deadline.com

In the early to mid 80's, I religiously watched the David Letterman show every night after Johnny Carson. This was peak Letterman, and had not just some of his best bits, but some of the best comedy bits that have ever been on American TV in general.

The 80's interviews Letterman had with Teri Garr were also very memorable. It was obvious they both liked each other and were flirting with each other, and it was just adorable. She always handled him perfectly too, while being a bit flustered. Comedy gold!

It's very sad to see what has become of the late night comedy talk shows today, compared to what they were 50 years ago. Does anyone even watch them any more? I don't, and I never hear anyone say anymore "Did you see the Tonight Show last night?! It was hysterical!"

 

[Phroobar]

Is there an English version?

I speak jive.

 

[Phroobar]

In the early to mid 80's, I religiously watched the David Letterman show every night after Johnny Carson. This was peak Letterman, and had not just some of his best bits, but some of the best comedy bits that have ever been on American TV in general.

The 80's interviews Letterman had with Teri Garr were also very memorable. It was obvious they both liked each other and were flirting with each other, and it was just adorable. She always handled him perfectly too, while being a bit flustered. Comedy gold!

It's very sad to see what has become of the late night comedy talk shows today, compared to what they were 50 years ago. Does anyone even watch them any more? I don't, and I never hear anyone say anymore "Did you see the Tonight Show last night?! It was hysterical!"

@TP2000 , Avatar costumes are sold out at at Spirit Halloween stores this year.

 

[TP2000]

@TP2000 , Avatar costumes are sold at at Spirit Halloween stores this year.
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I can't wait to get one at my front door tomorrow!

And at least five of them have been sold and reviewed, so they are out there somewhere.

 

[Too Many Hats]

I think it doesn't help that people in the Disney fan communities elevate Disney CMs and cut them more slack.

I guarantee you if these same fans had the same bad interaction you see at Disneyland at a McDonalds or Target instead they'd be fuming about it.

But people excuse Disney CMs way too often.

I've worked at a themepark in my teenage years and we had many crowded days but I never was rude to people period.

Fans that defend bad CM behavior instead of complaining about it make the problem worse.

Not saying themepark employees have easy jobs but if they are that miserable it would be beneficial for them to find other minimum wage work instead where they don't deal with as big of crowds.

Ever look at the Disneyland subreddit? It's practically dogma over there that CMs must never be held responsible for poor behavior, no matter what. Blame low pay, oppressive work schedules, rude guests -- but never the CM. It's such a bizarre aspect of the "fandom."

Again, most CMs are delightful. But CMs are just people, like everyone else. And it's increasingly noticeable that some CMs lack professionalism and behave in a manner that would probably get them scolded at a McDonald's or Target. Let's not bend over backwards to excuse this behavior or forbid ourselves from even discussing it.

 

[mickEblu]

Ever look at the Disneyland subreddit? It's practically dogma over there that CMs must never be held responsible for poor behavior, no matter what. Blame low pay, oppressive work schedules, rude guests -- but never the CM. It's such a bizarre aspect of the "fandom."

Again, most CMs are delightful. But CMs are just people, like everyone else. And it's increasingly noticeable that some CMs lack professionalism and behave in a manner that would probably get them scolded at a McDonald's or Target. Let's not bend over backwards to excuse this behavior or forbid ourselves from even discussing it.

I blame the vloggers that deify CMs for perks or because they think that’s what fans want to hear.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Ever look at the Disneyland subreddit?

I try not to.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Southwest just announced they'll be starting non-stop flights from BWI to Long Beach next year.

Thank the maker. Now LAX won't be THE option for getting to DL from here.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

It's such a bizarre aspect of the "fandom."

There's so many things about the fandom that I, a WDW regular, found strange when I came on the internet and discovered the DL fandom.

I had an Uber back to LAX on Monday night. My Uber driver was a former CM. I was telling him about my trip, that I'l a pretty big Disney person, but I spend more time in WDW because of geography (and $99 flights). Anyway, he asked me if I did pin trading, and I said absolutely not, I don't see the point, if I'm going to buy something, I'd better have a use for it.

He laughed and said I would offend some DL guests with that attitude. I'm like...what? Then he told me about DL guests who would come in with strollers that didn't have a child, but instead had a BINDER OF PINS. I'm like, what the heck?

Now, y'all out west may have seen this, but for me, this was indeed incredibly strange. I can understand getting the ears if you're going to wear them (I personally don't; they'll just give me a headache). I buy the Nuimos because I do actually put them on my backpack and carry them around, and then I display them at home. I also don't mind spending money on a hoodie or sweatshirt because they last forever, and I live in Maryland where you absolutely need layers, so I wear them a lot. Pins...I'm afraid of losing them, and what are you going to do with a binder of them? Also, why would I trade them instead of just buying the one I actually want?

I'm like, these guests are weird. That, and the worship of the Tiki room when WDW guests don't particularly care for it. And Small World. I like Small World. Other WDW guests have mixed opinions.

 

[Consumer]

Let’s go LA!

 

[waltography]

...I buy the Nuimos because I do actually put them on my backpack and carry them around, and then I display them at home...

I mean, there's your answer. I don't pin trade much anymore, but when I did I used to bring a book of pins to get harder-to-find ones that I'd then display on my backpack (I had the kind with a clear front pocket & inserts) or display on boards at home. There's also a community/meeting people aspect to pin trading that can be appealing since you can ask folks how long they've been collecting and what characters/things they collect.

I'm acquaintances with someone who designs pins for the parks (and that team is actually Florida-based, so it's not just DL folks that are weird ) so I know through them that Florida has the same kind of pin trading going on, they just meet off-property to trade or wait until the annual pin trading event at Coronado.

 

[mickEblu]

Let’s go LA!

World Champs! What a comeback! And thank you too Judge. lol

Freddie Freeman played out of his mind. Well deserved MVP that we saw coming from Game 2.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

World Champs! What a comeback! And thank you too Judge. lol

Freddie Freeman played out of his mind. Well deserved MVP that we saw coming from Game 2.

Thank you.

I did not want to be dealing with Yankees fans in Baltimore coming off of a World Series win; they're obnoxious enough.

That fan who grabbed Mookie's glove was absolutely typical Yankee fan behavior. And just being banned from Game 5...like, what the heck? There needed to be WAYYYY more punishment for that. Like, banned for life would be acceptable.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

I mean, there's your answer. I don't pin trade much anymore, but when I did I used to bring a book of pins to get harder-to-find ones that I'd then display on my backpack (I had the kind with a clear front pocket & inserts) or display on boards at home. There's also a community/meeting people aspect to pin trading that can be appealing since you can ask folks how long they've been collecting and what characters/things they collect.

I'm acquaintances with someone who designs pins for the parks (and that team is actually Florida-based, so it's not just DL folks that are weird ) so I know through them that Florida has the same kind of pin trading going on, they just meet off-property to trade or wait until the annual pin trading event at Coronado.

Yeah, it's there, but not quite as prevalent. I don't see the point, especially as expensive as they are. My parents bought me two from a trip I didn't go on, and I'm like, "thank you...now what do I do with these?" They're sitting in a drawer; I have zero idea what to do with them. I also would look at the price and go "eh...nope. That's gonna get pricey real fast."

I'm also not a trader. Once I have it, that is mine. I don't give my stuff away, even to get different stuff.

My brother has a couple, but they have moving pieces, so he uses them as fidgets.

I think the real thing that threw me when I first encountered DL people online was the yeti being named Harold. I was like...why? But now I call him Harold too, so...

 

[PiratesMansion]

There's so many things about the fandom that I, a WDW regular, found strange when I came on the internet and discovered the DL fandom.

I had an Uber back to LAX on Monday night. My Uber driver was a former CM. I was telling him about my trip, that I'l a pretty big Disney person, but I spend more time in WDW because of geography (and $99 flights). Anyway, he asked me if I did pin trading, and I said absolutely not, I don't see the point, if I'm going to buy something, I'd better have a use for it.

He laughed and said I would offend some DL guests with that attitude. I'm like...what? Then he told me about DL guests who would come in with strollers that didn't have a child, but instead had a BINDER OF PINS. I'm like, what the heck?

Now, y'all out west may have seen this, but for me, this was indeed incredibly strange. I can understand getting the ears if you're going to wear them (I personally don't; they'll just give me a headache). I buy the Nuimos because I do actually put them on my backpack and carry them around, and then I display them at home. I also don't mind spending money on a hoodie or sweatshirt because they last forever, and I live in Maryland where you absolutely need layers, so I wear them a lot. Pins...I'm afraid of losing them, and what are you going to do with a binder of them? Also, why would I trade them instead of just buying the one I actually want?

I'm like, these guests are weird. That, and the worship of the Tiki room when WDW guests don't particularly care for it. And Small World. I like Small World. Other WDW guests have mixed opinions.

So you didn't see the giant collections of people trading/displaying their pins at the entrance to Frontierland?

Consider yourself lucky. They were unavoidable during my park days last year.

 

[Disneyland/DCA]

I think the real thing that threw me when I first encountered DL people online was the yeti being named Harold. I was like...why? But now I call him Harold too, so...

Because he's hairy.