Too Many Hats
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Disneyland doesn't need a museum piece that no one will go see. It needs something original that will appeal to today's guests.
Not happening in our lifetime.
That's actually exactly what Disneyland needs. Disneyland functions best when it acts as a museum.
I mean, I don't truly agree, but I understand the sentiment. We can't trust modern WDI. If forced to choose between a Country Bear Jamboree museum exhibit or The Preschool-Friendly Bears Sing "Let It Go" & "We Don't Talk About Bruno," I know which one I'd choose.
Either this or Plectus.
Plectu's would've been fascinating! What a different Imagineering era. Gotta wonder how Tomorrowland might've gone in a completely different direction had that show been implemented.
In a perfect world they reuse carousel theater for what it was built to do, as an animatronic theater venue
Agreed. 0% chance of it happening, though.
Or just give us Horizons 2.0
This would be my top choice as well. Not gonna happen.
I agree to an extent, but it needs a thorough restaging of all four acts. Originally, the show covered the preceding 60 years of electrical progress in 20 year leaps, but now it's been 60 years since the show first opened.
I would propose a new show that has three acts detailing progress in consumer appliances and domestic development; 1910's, 1950's, 2000's, and then a fourth act that looked at the future of the 2030's that could be updated easily in five or eight years time.
You would also need a deep-pocketed sponsor, and it seems Apple would be a great choice. The show would not focus on specific brands in the first acts, but would instead use a range of examples and technology. In the third and fourth acts the Apple products would become part of the show, obviously.
The first three acts remain incredibly charming, in my opinion. The snarky and cynical final act demonstrates a misunderstanding of what makes the rest of the show so warm and timeless, to say nothing of the outdated technology it showcases.
Love the idea of securing a sponsor like Apple and refreshing the entire show. But personally I don't even feel it's necessary; some adjustments to the final act would go a long way.
But to just pick up the 1964 World's Fair show and bring it to Disneyland, even if you updated the tacky 1990's finale' they have running in WDW, isn't a wise idea in my opinion. You would need to dramatically change and update the entire show, while keeping its original charm and whimsy and that great Sherman Brothers theme song.
How dare you all engage my flippant comment with rationality and pragmatism.
Fine, I agree with you completely. I don't sincerely believe it's a great idea to move CoP to Disneyland. I'm just so cynical about Disneyland's Tomorrowland at this point; D'Amaro and WDI lack the courage to actually invest in fixing the land's many shortcomings. We're stuck with Pizza Port and ground-level Astro Orbiter and rotting PeopleMover tracks and an empty carousel building forever. Why not transplant CoP and call it a day?
At this point I'd settle for some speakers blasting "There's A Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow" on a loop at the hub entrance to Tomorrowland. Is that achievable, D'Amaro? That might be sufficient for me. That's how low my bar is.
This sounds nice and "just", given the importance of the show, but the key thing is that it left in the 70s. Had it stayed, it might have become an enduring park classic on the level of Tiki Room. But because it left? It'd be received the way most people received Captain EO when it returned in 2010: what the heck is this?!? Disney just doesn't make attractions like this anymore, and the reaction from anyone who wouldn't already be familiar with it from their own memories would largely be confusion.
I might disagree, actually. Wouldn't the countless SoCal Disney fanatics who regularly go to Disneyland wholeheartedly embrace the show? Certainly they'd hold it in higher regard than Orlando tourists who've never even heard of the 1964 NY World's Fair.
The only market that exists for static AA shows (or arguably theater shows in general) at Disneyland Resort is for legacy attractions that were around in Walt's era. Because it left, COP would not be treated the same way the existing legacy attractions are. Even if the Carousel theater would be able to be reconstructed, I don't believe it would be able to sustain its attendance over time to a point where it would make sense for DL to keep it around. As much as is underappreciated in Florida, theater shows have, generally speaking, had far greater lasting power when compared to the CA parks (there's a reason Florida's the only place that still has Muppetvision and ITTBAB, and it's not just because those parks collectively need more capacity). Bring COP to DL, and I'd be very surprised if it lasted more than five years.
Hmmm, you might have a point here. I wasn't regularly attending Disneyland back when the SoCal locals got bored with Country Bear Jamboree and MuppetVision. It's hard for me to even conceive of such a phenomenon, but reliable sources tell me it happened, haha.