Stevek
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They don't have to keep all opinions to themselves. They just need to be very careful about those that might come off as controversial. It's a tightrope walk for many I'm sure.
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Sharon&Susan
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Pedro Pascal isn't calling people Nazis on a regular basis unlike the anti-vax and conspiracy theories that Gina's been posting on her social media accounts.
I'm not a democrat.
The Empress Lilly
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Pedro's meme is hugely offensive, an insult both to Nazi victims and to the USA.
He gets to stay, as does his tweet. For one reason only: progressive vs. conservative opinion. This is what liberal privilege looks like, being part of the dominant mainstream and hellbent on marginalising and crushing diverging thought.
rylouisbo
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yea sounds like youre just making excuses for why its ok for him to call people nazis but not her cause she believes something else you dont like.
Supreme Leader
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Last time I checked Republicans weren't getting round up en masse and being exterminated for being conservative/republican.
rylouisbo
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right, and the point of her post was that horrible things like that START with people hating their neighbors for being different. Dont hate... thats the point of the post that is offending you guys... It is an over exaggerated comparison as most Nazi/Hitler/Jew comparison are but its not making light of concentration camps and its explicitly saying they are bad...
Supreme Leader
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Then she shouldn't be engaged with that same hateful rhetoric. Her post implies that she/conservatives have it as bad as Jewish people during the Holocaust.
doctornick
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Agree with these. I personally don't give a crap what any actors things or talks about and hate the idea of people getting fired over their opinions, no matter how stupid they might be. Gina seems like a moron, but she's getting paid to be an actress not a policy maker.
That being said, I think she's a pretty crappy actress so I don't really mind her being let go. Her character is no great loss IMHO. But I disagree with the principle involved.
OTOH... I do think that Gina was likely warned multiple times already and this was probably just the "straw that broke the camel's back". I've seen complaints about her online for well over a year and she keeps posting controversial stuff. I understand Disney wanting to cut bait with her even if I don't like the general principle and they certainly have the right to do so.
Pedro's post though is equally wrongheaded and I'd expect think that they'd have a talking to him as well. He'd be harder to remove from the show obviously but I don't think it's purely political - I just don't think he's had the same number of "transgressions" (yet). I'd like to think that Disney or any company would be equally aggressive at stomping out controversial statements whether of a conservative or liberal bent but I understand your skepticism about it.
She also posted supporting the lie that the election was stolen.. "it should be investigated."
Despite the fact that it was investigated over and over again.
ABQ
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I've been trying to find the post, as you're not the first to bring that up, but I cannot. I found this one "“We need to clean up the election process so we are not left feeling the way we do today. Put laws in place that protect us against voter fraud.” Which yes, may imply that she thinks the election was stolen, but is not what she explicitly stated and hardly controversial. I know MANY who voted for Biden and want more laws in place to protect against fraud as well.
rylouisbo
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lol what, what was the hateful rhetoric? no her post does not imply that, thats what you want it to mean so you have a reason to hate on her.
There is no appreciable voter fraud that would affect national elections. Trump sent a team to find the 3 million votes he lost by the first time, and they found nothing. Every court case in the recent election failed for lack of evidence. Republican governors, secretaries of state, and legislatures certified their state elections in states there was alleged fraud by Democrats.
How is "not feeling this way" anything but code for the election is stolen? If it was a fair election and not stolen, the only 'feeling' would be disappointment their side lost. But obviously, that's not what she's talking about. The 'feeling' is that they were robbed!!
Which they weren't. It's just amplifying "it was stolen" rhetoric.
ABQ
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I understand, though she did make that tweet on November 5th, so I'm not saying that makes it correct, but it does mean that all the actions you referred to took place after that, not prior, is that correct?
Joesixtoe
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excuse me, but did we not go through 4 years of russia stealing the election?? I mean the hypocrisy is so blatant and flat out in the faces of conservatives and yet you wonder why we don't trust everything coming out of Washington or the news media? Listen if she believes that the election was a stolen(I sure do, the new york times sure made a case for it as well) then who cares, how will that hurt you? oh no she said something that people might believe is true, o no fire her. cancel culture at its worst happened today and it's flat out wrong. if you believe this is ok, well then just wait cause cancel culture has no limits, it keeps canceling until there is nothing left to cancel.
There's a difference between influencing an election through massive misinformation campaigns to sow division and doubt as well as hacking emails compared to claims that votes weren't counted as part of election fraud.
You're right.
Except for the part where the previous election was claimed to have had fraud by 3 million votes and when it was investigated, it was clear it didn't. But the charge was never rescinded.
And the non-stop claims leading up to the election that if the former president didn't win, it would be stolen. Because of all that mail-in balloting which would be fraudulent. And it wasn't.
And on election night when Fox and the AP called Arizona for President Biden and it was claimed to be fraudulent because it just wasn't possible that Former President Trump could lose.
And on election night when there started to be the "stop the count" rallies in states where Trump was ahead by the mail-in votes were still being counted.
And on election night when there started to be the "count all the votes" rallies in states where Biden was ahead, but presumably, by some sort of fraudulent activity, not all the Trump votes were being counted.
So... that's bound to produce a 'feeling' other than the disappointment of loss, no? Otherwise, why ask for changes in laws? "We shouldn't feel this way" is clearly the feeling that the election was stolen because of fraud. Of which there was practically none.
ABQ
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I guess all those things are possible. Though it's assuming a relatively headstrong woman doesn't think for herself.
Sharon&Susan
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And Tim Allen made the same Republicans=Holocaust Jews comparison as she did years ago yet he got to be in Toy Story 4.
She didn't get fired just because she made one bad Nazi comparison, it was a ton of posts from the last few months that caused her decline. As pointed out in this thread, she may've already been fired (or at least had her role in future Star Wars projects significantly reduced) 2 months ago.
Disney just saw this Nazi comparison as a good time to officially announce that they've severed ties with her, if this was the only stupid thing that she said I'm sure she'd still be readying for filming for Season 3 in 2 months.