The Magic has gone for us

[maggiegrace1]

I think I have already explained in a previous post why that may be :lookaroun:drevil:

You did....but I think they have some good songs on their last CD..Well I like them..

Granted..their old songs are amazing!...
He is also very se xy!

 

[captainkidd]

I think "Wanted, Dead or Alive" was their last good song.

Bad Medicine (#1 single)
I'll Be There For You (#1 single)
Born To Be My Baby (top 10 single)
Lay Your Hands On Me (top 10 single)
Living IN Sin (top 10 single)
Blaze Of Glory (#1 single)
Keep The Faith
Bed Of Roses (top 10 single)
In These Arms (top 10 single)
Always (top 10 single)
It's My Life
Have A Nice Day
Who Says You Can't Go Home (#1 single)
Lost Highway

:shrug: Not doing anything for ya?

 

[maggiegrace1]

Bad Medicine (#1 single)
I'll Be There For You (#1 single)
Born To Be My Baby (top 10 single)
Lay Your Hands On Me (top 10 single)
Keep The Faith
Blaze of Glory
Bed Of Roses (top 10 single)
Always (top 10 single)
It's My Life
Have A Nice Day
Who Says You Can't Go Home (#1 single)
Lost Highway

:shrug: Not doing anything for ya?

:sohappy::sohappy::sohappy:

"Want to make a Memory" off their new one is also great!:sohappy:

 

[One Lil Spark]

:sohappy::sohappy::sohappy:

"Want to make a Memory" off their new one is also great!:sohappy:

Time to make a Chit Chat thread! :lol:

 

[yankspy]

Bad Medicine (#1 single)
I'll Be There For You (#1 single)
Born To Be My Baby (top 10 single)
Lay Your Hands On Me (top 10 single)
Living IN Sin (top 10 single)
Blaze Of Glory (#1 single)
Keep The Faith
Bed Of Roses (top 10 single)
In These Arms (top 10 single)
Always (top 10 single)
It's My Life
Have A Nice Day
Who Says You Can't Go Home (#1 single)
Lost Highway

:shrug: Not doing anything for ya?

Maybe a few. I grew up with a bias towards bands like that. I listened to a lot of Mettalica, Megadeth, and such through part of my teen years. Bands like Bon Jovi were considered posers:lol:. A silly adolescent view of course, but one that still rears its ugly head on occasion.

 

[maggiegrace1]

Time to make a Chit Chat thread! :lol:

:lol:
I know..

Now back to our regularly scheduled complaining...

 

[captainkidd]

Maybe a few. I grew up with a bias towards bands like that. I listened to a lot of Mettalica, Megadeth, and such through part of my teen years. Bands like Bon Jovi were considered posers:lol:. A silly adolescent view of course, but one that still rears its ugly head on occasion.

I listened to all those bands, but never had a problem with the bands who were based on the look. But I do know what you mean.

Bon Jovi long outgrew that phase. Unfortunately for them, people still make a huge deal out of JBJ's looks that it overshadows them as being a great rock band.

 

[jakeman]

As I just recently said in another thread that has been swallowed by the forum monster, I hope those that complain here also share their concerns with the Walt Disney Company.

WDW can't get better if complaining is confined to a few fan boy sites. If these concerns are real (even if it is only in the standards of your perceptions) then they should be communicated.

Ideally, I would think it would be more effective the closer to the time of the event. Notice an area is dirty? Notify a manager. Upset about park hours? Visit guest relations at the end of your day. Not satisfied with your meal? Ask to speak with the chef shortly after you realize you don't like it.

I understand that the knee-jerk reaction to this post will be that you shouldn't have to do this, but really, if it is ruining your vacation to the point that you are still stewing about it later enough to post on a message board, then I would think it would be of importance to have action taken at the time of your vacation.

 

[One Lil Spark]

I understand that the knee-jerk reaction to this post will be that you shouldn't have to do this, but really, if it is ruining your vacation to the point that you are still stewing about it later enough to post on a message board, then I would think it would be of importance to have action taken at the time of your vacation.

Well said. I believe you've found the key!

*Bows to you*

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

If all you want is self congratulatory posts and a love fest with the mouse its going to be a rather dull, uninteresting and unrepresentative site.

Funnily enough in the six surveys I have received from Disney I have conveyed my feelings. I just wonder if the response will be as hysterical as that on here.

What a shower of fannies.

 

[jakeman]

If all you want is self congratulatory posts and a love fest with the mouse its going to be a rather dull, uninteresting and unrepresentative site.

Funnily enough in the six surveys I have received from Disney I have conveyed my feelings. I just wonder if the response will be as hysterical as that on here.

What a shower of fannies.

I agree. If there was no differing of opinions then it would be a very dull site by far.

However, there is a difference between complaining because you truly feel that the product has lost value as a concerned consumer and then there is complaining just to complain.

Pumbas, I will say (not that you need my approval!) that you have always made somewhat reasonable accusation of the decline in quality and adjusted your spending at WDW accordingly, as well as communicate your issues to WDW, as a responsible consumer should.

Overall though, simply coming here and starting a thread is probably one of the least effective things to do.

 

[CBOMB]

Um, yeah....OK.

Settle down, Beavis.

Boy you sure told him. I'm with you all the way. How dare those foreigners spell tire tyre or color colour. Where in the world did they learn to speak, and write English anyway?
By the way, what is a Bon Jovi? is that a choclate covered ice cream treat or something? Please excuse any misspellings or incorrect punctuations that I may have committed.

 

[CBOMB]

Graham 9 I'm sorry your last trip was less than magical. I don't think any amount of planning would have helped. It really is becoming in vogue to tell people to simply don't go rather than addressing the problems. There seem to be more, and more people showing up on Disney fan sites with the same experience that you had. That should tell WDW something. When guest with multiple visits start to lose that Magical feeling something is definetly wrong.
Hopefully one day the folks at WDW will wake up, and pay attention to what's being said here, and at other sites. These or people that love Disney. Some of the advice you were given was to try DL or the DCL or DLP. You will see the same advice no matter where you post a thread like yours. It's not that people are Disney haters. They have just become disenchanted with how WDW has been run lately. It's still not to late for WDW management to turn things around.

 

[Disneyfanman]

We too have had good and bad experiences at Disney vacations, and also when we have vacationed other places. Working in the hospitality industry, I can tell you that even with the best laid plans, training, and equipment that a meltdown of epic proportions is only a moment away at any time. When it's busy........the chances of multiple meltdowns increases dramatically.

Not that you should worry about that. As a consumer, you should get the experience, product, and attitude that you paid for. When you don't get it, it can be extrememly frustrating.

You can lower the likelihood of problems by visiting at a lower attendance time of year, watching park schedules like a hawk, and planning planning planning, but even with all of that a bad experience is only Cast Member away. I wish that Disney was exempt from these problems, but unfortunately they employ people just like everyone else.

What to do? Complain with a smile, and firmly but fairly demand a fix whenever possible.

I have never had Disney miss-handle a complaint. They have certainly been responsive whenever I have brought something to their attention. When I have sent food back I have received a replacement meal. When I have had a dirty room they have cleaned it immediately and appologized. I have always treated every Cast Member with respect, tipped hansomely, and thanked people for helping. And they have always bent over backwards to make it right.

And my Amazing experiences have always outweighed my poor ones.

Poor Bus Service (probably due to sick calls).....? Travel during less busy times because we all know the system can be overwhelmed. If you go during busy times at the parks, you will get on fewer attractions, so get there at open and hit the ones you like. Know the park hours well in advance and plan. Go the Christmas Party on an "off" day so that the experience is more magical. I think that you have to do a ton of work to have a great time at Disney during any busy season, but in the end the results always have justified the means.

Last Christmas Season I was at Disney with my family. We planned our days (using the Unofficial Guide Calendar, and some common sense that comes from experience). We got to the parks early, planned off days in between, used fast pass extensively, and had a wonderful experience. In the evenings we sat in the hot tub listening to people who had a terrible experience and experienced very few attractions. It was always difficult to believe that they had gone to the same parks that we had.

We did experience some miss-fires and some poor service experiences, but whenever I spoke to a manager or cast member, Disney always responded. Would I go again during the Christmas Season? Sure. Would I do it every year? No way, because it's a lot of work and planning and time. It's really exausting to experience Disney during the holidays. Satisfying yes, but lots of work.

One time we were at the studios to close on the 4th of July. Jillions of people left the park after Fantasmic. They had one tram running, and there was a cast member sleeping in a seperate tram on the parking lot. It would have taken an hour to wait for the single tram. Did Disney plan on having one tram working at close on one of the busiest nights of the year? I doubt it. Were we tired and irritated? Sure. Did it ruin our vacation? No way.

But we won't go back on the 4th again without parking really close to the park!

So vote with your dollars and stay away. I think though that Disney would like to hear about your experience.

Enough rambling. Thanks to the OP for posting.

 

[WDW1974]

You know how some geeks/fanboys/bloggers are always posing the question 'What Would Walt Do?'

I must say I usually laugh them off or explain the world has changed so much in the four decades plus since Walt's smoking got the best of him and that had he lived he would have grown and changed somewhat too since he always was a about 4-5 steps ahead of everyone in the entertainment business.

But when I read threads like this I do wonder 'What would Walt say about the fact that a whole large segment of his (or his parks') so-called fans defend the lowering quality and standards and wear it like some LE pin on a pride lanyard?'

interesting to ponder ...

 

[One Lil Spark]

You know how some geeks/fanboys/bloggers are always posing the question 'What Would Walt Do?'

I must say I usually laugh them off or explain the world has changed so much in the four decades plus since Walt's smoking got the best of him and that had he lived he would have grown and changed somewhat too since he always was a about 4-5 steps ahead of everyone in the entertainment business.

But when I read threads like this I do wonder 'What would Walt say about the fact that a whole large segment of his (or his parks') so-called fans defend the lowering quality and standards and wear it like some LE pin on a pride lanyard?'

interesting to ponder ...

WDW1974, thank you for contributing to the site and getting people's minds to think just enough outside the box that we can begin to question the place we all hold so dear. Though I must say, jumping into threads and calling forum members 'so-called fans' because you think we're doing something wrong is slightly over the top. We're ALL here for a reason. If we all didn't consider ourselves true fans would we be here?

We get it. We get your schtick. Promise. :wave:

 

[Yanks07]

You know how some geeks/fanboys/bloggers are always posing the question 'What Would Walt Do?'

I must say I usually laugh them off or explain the world has changed so much in the four decades plus since Walt's smoking got the best of him and that had he lived he would have grown and changed somewhat too since he always was a about 4-5 steps ahead of everyone in the entertainment business.

But when I read threads like this I do wonder 'What would Walt say about the fact that a whole large segment of his (or his parks') so-called fans defend the lowering quality and standards and wear it like some LE pin on a pride lanyard?'

interesting to ponder ...

We get it. We get your schtick. We understand you believe you're the ultimate maverick preservator and defender of quality in WDI. Can you calm it down a bit, bud? Honestly? Please? I'm just sayin

 

[maggiegrace1]

WDW1974, thank you for contributing to the site and getting people's minds to think just enough outside the box that we can begin to question the place we all hold so dear. Though I must say, jumping into threads and calling forum members 'so-called fans' because you think we're doing something wrong is slightly over the top. We're ALL here for a reason. If we all didn't consider ourselves true fans would we be here?

We get it. We get your schtick. Promise. :wave:

Bravo Jenn...

 

[CaptainMichael]

Promise. :wave:

Every evening brings an ending
Every day becomes a legacy
Every sunset leads to morning
With the promise of opportunity.

We can reach for the stars we find along the way
Dreaming as we learn to love everyday
Promise you will take my hand
As tomorrow comes, we'll go on.

We'll go on growing closer through the years
Moving on through the good times and the tears
Ever on another thousand circles around the sun
If two can be as one.

We'll go on
There is music if you listen
In the rhythm of each breath we take
Destinations undescovered
Revolutions from every choice we make
And I know there are diamonds dancing in the sky
All we have to do is open our eyes
Promise we'll walk side by side
As a new day dawns we'll go on.

We'll go on growing closer through the years
Moving on through the good times and the tears
Ever on another thousand circles around the sun
A new life has begun
The two of us as one
We'll go on.

Moving on through the good times and the tears
Ever on another thousand circles around the sun
A new life has begun
When two of us are one.

And we live to keep the promise
We'll go on
Ever on
We'll go on...

 

[One Lil Spark]

We get it. We get your schtick. Promise. :wave:

We get it. We get your schtick. We understand you believe you're the ultimate maverick preservator and defender of quality in WDI. Can you calm it down a bit, bud? Honestly? Please? I'm just sayin

WOW! Scary! Seriously, did you read my mind?

Great minds, I tell you...

Bravo Jenn...

Thank you, Dana...

And we live to keep the promise
We'll go on
Ever on
We'll go on...[/I]

:ROFLOL: Random, yet totally appropriate!