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The Living Seas/Nemo Overlay
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Since1976
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The Aquarium thing has been done so much better elsewhere. Check out Virginia Beach's, or the National Aquarium in Baltimore, or Ripley's Aquarium in South Carolina...
Disney was behind in the aquarium game even when The Living Seas first opened in the 80s -- they would have to gut the place completely and start anew to create something that would impress today's jaded visitors.
Other aquariums have the benefit of having all of their resources devoted to their facilities' upkeep. TLS is, unfortunately, just one pavilion in a large park, and does not get the full attention of those in charge of the money.
Then again, perhaps Disney realizes that one pavilion could never compete with SeaWorld or some of the larger aquariums, so they've written the attraction off as a half-hour diversion in a park guests' day. The Living Seas is eye-candy, nothing more.
An even larger Nemo overlay with the sea cabs would breathe new life into the attraction, for sure, but it needs to be *publicized* to be of any worth.
Disney was behind in the aquarium game even when The Living Seas first opened in the 80s -- they would have to gut the place completely and start anew to create something that would impress today's jaded visitors.
Other aquariums have the benefit of having all of their resources devoted to their facilities' upkeep. TLS is, unfortunately, just one pavilion in a large park, and does not get the full attention of those in charge of the money.
Then again, perhaps Disney realizes that one pavilion could never compete with SeaWorld or some of the larger aquariums, so they've written the attraction off as a half-hour diversion in a park guests' day. The Living Seas is eye-candy, nothing more.
An even larger Nemo overlay with the sea cabs would breathe new life into the attraction, for sure, but it needs to be *publicized* to be of any worth.
Agreed, plus, now that Seaworld is getting ready to open a third park, Disney is being backed into a corner when it comes to competing with water themes
JeffH
Active Member
Crowds at the Living Seas are better than ever...
Ever since the addition of Turtle Talk with Crush (and sometimes Dory, depending on the (random) show you see), and the shark area, and the new Nemo related displays, there are actually crowds at the pavilion!!!
They still need to update a few simple things, like some of the old "educational" touch screen videos that still refer to old things (especially the old layout, which is now long gone).
As to the "empty tanks", if you're ever there during a fish feeding session, you'd be amazed at the swarms of fish in the tank.
I still do hate the (although short) wait to get in and still think that you should load straight to the hydrolators, and the theatre should be part of SeaBase Alpha showing 3 different films an hour (and increasing the capacity of the pavilion). This would place you in the imaginary SeaBase for your whole time, instead of waiting to get in, and having to see a film before getting there.
And aside from the memorabilia in the "line", the whole line and the 5 minute waiting area are a complete waste of space and could be better used.
Why the exit hydrolators weren't built with the same effects as the entrance hydrolators was "cheap".
Ever since the addition of Turtle Talk with Crush (and sometimes Dory, depending on the (random) show you see), and the shark area, and the new Nemo related displays, there are actually crowds at the pavilion!!!
They still need to update a few simple things, like some of the old "educational" touch screen videos that still refer to old things (especially the old layout, which is now long gone).
As to the "empty tanks", if you're ever there during a fish feeding session, you'd be amazed at the swarms of fish in the tank.
I still do hate the (although short) wait to get in and still think that you should load straight to the hydrolators, and the theatre should be part of SeaBase Alpha showing 3 different films an hour (and increasing the capacity of the pavilion). This would place you in the imaginary SeaBase for your whole time, instead of waiting to get in, and having to see a film before getting there.
And aside from the memorabilia in the "line", the whole line and the 5 minute waiting area are a complete waste of space and could be better used.
Why the exit hydrolators weren't built with the same effects as the entrance hydrolators was "cheap".
Lets remember Seaworld`s 3rd park is looking like a water park. Even if the Seabase Alpha theme was re-energised with a modern look (like The Land) that would be something - but the Sea Cabs need to be brought back. As has been discussed before, the preshows, Hydrolators and Cabs just added to the anticipation and told such a good story its criminal the way the link has been broken.
I think the way The Living Seas turned out in 1986 was the best that could be done finnance and engineering wise - the original Seas pavilion circa 1978 had s much more, but some of its gimmicks (omnimover in glass tubes, Alpha in a glass dome etc) were way ahead of its time... Its surprising how simple things can work so well (2 inch drop in the Hydrolators and conveyor belt rock work) but I also wondered why they didn`t go the extra bit on the exit hydrolators too.
Jeff - the queue system from 1st preshow to Alpha was built for crowd control mainly. A way to regulate the numbers into the pavilion. There were however 2 main preshow theatres (after the United Tech preshow slideshow) so waiting time was originally half what it is now - the 2 theatres ran split shifts like the HM stretch rooms.
I think the way The Living Seas turned out in 1986 was the best that could be done finnance and engineering wise - the original Seas pavilion circa 1978 had s much more, but some of its gimmicks (omnimover in glass tubes, Alpha in a glass dome etc) were way ahead of its time... Its surprising how simple things can work so well (2 inch drop in the Hydrolators and conveyor belt rock work) but I also wondered why they didn`t go the extra bit on the exit hydrolators too.
Jeff - the queue system from 1st preshow to Alpha was built for crowd control mainly. A way to regulate the numbers into the pavilion. There were however 2 main preshow theatres (after the United Tech preshow slideshow) so waiting time was originally half what it is now - the 2 theatres ran split shifts like the HM stretch rooms.
He he - just read this rumour about the Living Seas future!
PhilharMagician
Well-Known Member
Well I currently am scheduled to do Dive Quest on August 26th. I would assume that Living Seas would still be open during this. I would tend to doubt that they would let us dive if they were doing construction.
mousermerf
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Dives could go on during pavillion construction, as it is highly unlikely they'd drain the tank and scrub it - though some things in there desperately need it.
For all intents and purposes the Guest area and the tank are two seperate operating entities.
For all intents and purposes the Guest area and the tank are two seperate operating entities.
"Disney used to tout (back in the mid 90s) that they could evacuate all of the water out of The Living Seas in 2 minutes if need be. This was a requirement of the insurance number crunchers who were afraid the pressure of the water would just pop one of the panels out into a show area (of course "they" never explained where all the water would go. Sure would make for an interesting afternoon at the bus stops.)"
Sadly, that's not true. I think the number was more around 18-25.
Sadly, that's not true. I think the number was more around 18-25.
Maybe it could revive the pavililion to its past glory!
Cool Idea!!