The Land Escalator Replacement?

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
They open the back doors at Christmas with no problems. Just remove the escalators and replace with stairs. This removes the lazy people from riding soaring
I believe it has been stated someplace that a broken escalator is a stairway. So that refurb is already done.:) When I was there last time it was just the down escalator that wasn't working. Seems like no amount of lazy can find fault with a down staircase, can it?
 

CDavid

Well-Known Member
I believe it has been stated someplace that a broken escalator is a stairway. So that refurb is already done.:) When I was there last time it was just the down escalator that wasn't working. Seems like no amount of lazy can find fault with a down staircase, can it?


Walking the stairs is good for you. I always make a point of walking down the stairs for my health, and only take the escalator or elevator the other way... :)
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Walking the stairs is good for you. I always make a point of walking down the stairs for my health, and only take the escalator or elevator the other way... :)
And I have a leg injury from an accident a few years back that makes it difficult for me to go down stairs, but no problem at all with going up. Aren't I lucky?:D
 

Texas84

Well-Known Member
They need to kill the escalators and put in long ramps to the first floor. The ramps could hug the edge of the second floor walkway and end up on the far side to keep the grade minimal. I was looking for a floor plan to sketch it out but no luck. Might try to rough it. I'm sure my idea would be too expensive and disruptive though. But the orginal design is horrible.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I never understood why we didn't have 2 going each direction. It always bottle-necks right there and is a pain.
Well it's mostly because the entrance is actually the 3rd floor, at least. You go down to the second floor and even further to the first. I'm thinking it would be a pretty long ramp.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Lower level (original)

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Upper level

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rct247

Well-Known Member
To relieve the congestion, there's an emergency exit route by the bathrooms next to soarin. Those doors will be opened, and staffed by cast, which will direct guests out backstage and through the backstage gate by imagination, which will send them back into the park.

From what I am told, this will be the primary entrance into the pavilion if you want to experience Soarin, Living with the Land, or Sunshine Seasons. You will only have access to Circle of Life from the main entrance. The estimated time this project may take is a 6 months.
 

articos

Well-Known Member
From what I am told, this will be the primary entrance into the pavilion if you want to experience Soarin, Living with the Land, or Sunshine Seasons. You will only have access to Circle of Life from the main entrance. The estimated time this project may take is a 6 months.

Ugh. It should not take 6 months to replace escalators, even ones as screwed up as these are.
 

articos

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The entire pavilion has a poor layout. I say find a way to keep Soarin’ open, bulldoze the rest of it, and rebuild.

All they really need to do is build another entrance that is on the ground floor instead of the second floor. I never did understand that design. It wasn't that much of a problem until Soarin arrived, now it is very unhandy, especially for people with mobility issues.

The Land, like all of the original pavilions, was built with a sense of discovery to its entry. There's a build up of anticipation that's planned into the arrival. You were to walk towards the towering glass pyramid that was built to resemble a huge geometric greenhouse, with a wide open skylit entry beckoning you towards glass entry doors, with lots of natural light inside. Not the mostly hidden, dark entryway the way it is today, with the huge planter completely blocking any view of the entry from the front. The entry of the land was symmetrical to the entries of the other pavilions around and opposite. Once you were inside, it opened up all around you, and you could just see the boats taking off for the greenhouse underneath, along with the food court down below. You were made - by design - to have to walk all the way around the edges of the pavilion to create a sense of entry and lay out what was to come once you were inside the pavilion, before being given the option to go in to one of the shows, or go downstairs to eat or ride Living with the Land. When you walked into The Land, you took a moment to take it all in, then got (somewhat) excited to go on Living with the Land, with a real human. (Yes, it was a decent ride back then, darnit!)

It's not the pavilion that has a poor layout, it's that Soarin' was never meant to go here, nor is the pavilion used or staffed the way it was designed. Respectfully, I think "keeping Soarin' and bulldozing the rest of it" or opening the ground floor means essentially throwing away "The Land" as a place and admitting that it's just Soarin' now, which I disagree with. I'd rather renovate the pavilion and give it a new lease on life modernizing what it was built to be, rather than just throw all of the marbles to Soarin', which was squeezed in with very little thought.
 

coolbeans14

Active Member
To relieve the congestion, there's an emergency exit route by the bathrooms next to soarin. Those doors will be opened, and staffed by cast, which will direct guests out backstage and through the backstage gate by imagination, which will send them back into the park.

We used this exit at Christmas, it was actually a nice way out. Not a lot of people realised you could leave this way, so it was a nice, quiet stroll. The sun was shining, the birds were singing, and then we ended up near imagination.

And we all cried...
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
The Land, like all of the original pavilions, was built with a sense of discovery to its entry. There's a build up of anticipation that's planned into the arrival. You were to walk towards the towering glass pyramid that was built to resemble a huge geometric greenhouse, with a wide open skylit entry beckoning you towards glass entry doors, with lots of natural light inside. Not the mostly hidden, dark entryway the way it is today, with the huge planter completely blocking any view of the entry from the front. The entry of the land was symmetrical to the entries of the other pavilions around and opposite. Once you were inside, it opened up all around you, and you could just see the boats taking off for the greenhouse underneath, along with the food court down below. You were made - by design - to have to walk all the way around the edges of the pavilion to create a sense of entry and lay out what was to come once you were inside the pavilion, before being given the option to go in to one of the shows, or go downstairs to eat or ride Living with the Land. When you walked into The Land, you took a moment to take it all in, then got (somewhat) excited to go on Living with the Land, with a real human. (Yes, it was a decent ride back then, darnit!)

It's not the pavilion that has a poor layout, it's that Soarin' was never meant to go here, nor is the pavilion used or staffed the way it was designed. Respectfully, I think "keeping Soarin' and bulldozing the rest of it" or opening the ground floor means essentially throwing away "The Land" as a place and admitting that it's just Soarin' now, which I disagree with. I'd rather renovate the pavilion and give it a new lease on life modernizing what it was built to be, rather than just throw all of the marbles to Soarin', which was squeezed in with very little thought.
I guess that all makes sense, but, the vast majority, myself included, never had that thought jump into their mind. I doubt you did that first trip either. In fact I never really thought about why and I was amused by the design even if I didn't understand it. I think that my thought were more of just the uniqueness of the design more then the function.

Also at the time, there was a lot less emphasis on accessibility. Soarin indeed exacerbated the situation, but, it was always a problem for those with mobility issues especially when you figure that everything worth seeing was two stories down with limited elevator availability. Today that pavilion could not be build without extensive alteration of that noble, but vague, intent.
 

Glasgow

Well-Known Member
The beauty of escalators is that even when they are broken, they are stairs. Genius. They can't fix a 10 million dollar Yeti but yet the escalators (stairs) are constantly worked on .. and why? Because people would complain they couldn't get Soarin fastpasses because they had to walk up 30 feet of .. gasp .. stationary stairs! Grrr - the irony ..
 

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