The Imagineering Movie Discussion Thread

TheOriginalTiki

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This was a genuinely terrible month for movies. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes was pretty solid but definitely didn't live up to the two Matt Reeves movies (Very much an "in between" movie for me. Better than "Rise", worse than Dawn and War). Furiosa was decent with Hemsworth in particular delivering one of the more memorable performances of the year thus far, but the discourse around its box office performance has been exhausting. I skipped Garfield and The Strangers. I would have seen In a Violent Nature if not for Nate's review.

I was on the fence all month about rather IF looked like it was worth seeing in theaters or not but the annoying social media campaign of pulling "critic" quotes out of regular people kind of had the opposite effect and reeked of desperation. The movie that I'm sure would have been my number one of the month (I Saw the TV Glow) didn't screen anywhere near me because my local independent theater has one foot in the grave and is basically relying on big releases to stay afloat and other than that the market has just been way too over-saturated with mid-level, disposable "Product" movies.

Oh, and The Fall Guy sucked too :p
 
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TheOriginalTiki

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Gotta say, I'm pretty frustrated with the back half of X-Men 97. After THE episode the pacing slows way the hell down, almost to a crawl. It introduces a bunch of stuff that, unlike the first half of the season, made me feel like I was genuinely missing something by not watching the original show. Then in the three part finale they speed run through a TON of major events and it's all just too much. So much crazy stuff happens that I don't really feel the impact of any of it. For such a perfect build-up to the mid-season event, I'm left with a very "good but not great" feeling about the season as a whole.
 

PerGron

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May, oh May, what a bad movie month. While there were a few things I enjoyed well enough, very little of this month stood out to me beyond being "fine." In fact, while I watched quite a few of this year's releases trying to get back on track for my 365 new release challenge, most of what I watched this month were releases from earlier in the year just because there wasn't a lot I was crazy interested in seeing. That said, I managed 10 new May releases so let's go through them.

#10- Tarot
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[Watched in theaters]

I like a schlocky horror movie and when I saw the trailer for this the first time, I was hopeful it would at least be fun. It wasn't going to be "good" but I could've had a good time with it. Instead, we got some hot garbage in the acting department, a nothing story, and not even any on-screen carnage. The least this movie could've done was commit and go Rated R just to do the gore fest it clearly wanted to be, but instead it has all the generic tropes of a supernatural teen (they're college age but whatever) horror flick that Cabin in the Woods made fun of thirteen ******* years ago. Absolute dog****, do not watch this movie.

#09- The Garfield Movie
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[Watched in theaters]

This is the kind of movie my grandma would've taken me to as a kid when she was babysitting four cousins and just needed a break from us. It's an empty void of a movie with next to no personality stuffed with celebrity voices for absolutely no reason. I was mildly okay with Pratt as Mario, as I've said, I think a whole movie with the "Mario voice" would've been grating, but Garfield is not the role for him in the slightest. This is low-tier child movie garbage alongside most of Illumination's stuff and while I don't think it's the worst thing ever, I don't think it needed to exist and I do think kids deserve better entertainment focused at them.

#08- IF
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[Watched in theaters]

I don't think IF is a terrible movie, it has elements of charm and fun to it, the cast is mostly alright with the little girl being excellent, and the story is nice enough. That said, this is definitely a huge step down from the A Quiet Place films in terms of Krasinski's directorial features. It's not really kiddie enough to appeal to kids, too much deep emotional stuff focused on nostalgic adults, but there's also not enough of that to counteract the goofy kiddie stuff to make this a movie geared towards older people. This movie isn't really "for" anyone and I think that's what hurts it the most.

#07- Living with Leopards
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[Watched on Netflix]

This year hasn't just been rough in terms of narrative features, the documentaries have been pretty tough to sit through as well. While Living with Leopards is a competently-made documentary about leopards growing up (something that is tough to film due to their illusiveness, especially with young) that doesn't go beyond the very surface of what a documentary like this could achieve. Leopards are a highly persecuted species that education for is minimal in our cultural zeitgeist and a leopard doc could've done the species a lot of good. For someone who just likes to watch animals on screen for an hour and a half, it's fine and beautifully shot (as most nature docs are) but to me it lacked substance beyond the novelty of filming leopard cubs growing up.

#06- The Fall Guy
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[Watched in theaters]

This movie was a beautiful mess. It was too long, too messy, too convoluted, and yet I can't not love both Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt. They were clearly having fun here and their charm and charisma alone pushed this movie this high up the list. The plot is mostly forgettable and the characters even more so, but the movie has some really awesome practical stunts and the performances are decent enough to give this one sixth place.

#05- South Park: The End of Obesity
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[Watched on Paramount+]

You know it was a rough month when the newest South Park special ends up in the top 5. That said, I'm pretty tired of the specials that they keep doing, I wish they'd just go back to making episodes or end the series entirely, there was zero reason for this to not just be an episode of a recent season of South Park. The commentary on the American healthcare system was pretty funny and the Mad Max: Fury Road homage at the end was also a good time, but this really would've just served better as an episode over a special.

#04- Jim Henson Idea Man
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[Watched on Disney+]

Now we get into the four that I actively enjoyed a lot. As @JokersWild said, this documentary was a great insight into Henson as both a person and an artist and follows almost his entire career from local public access television to The Dark Crystal and Labyrinth and also touches on the Disney partnership without Disney sucking themselves off like they tend to do with these things (*cough* Stan Lee from last year *cough*). This was a great little documentary with some awesome stuff that any Muppets or Henson fan should definitely check out.

#03- Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga
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[Watched on Disney+]

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I really enjoyed Furiosa, like, really enjoyed it. Yeah, the CGI was a bit iffy in parts and it's definitely no Mad Max: Fury Road, but that was probably the best action film of the 2010s, so I didn't really expect it again. I thought the deeper dive into Furiosa's character and her revenge plot was great, I thought both actresses who played Furiosa were phenomenal, I thought the action here (though less than expected) was phenomenal as well, and I thought Chris Hemsworth gave my favorite performance he's ever given. I get why it wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but I'm really sad watching it flop as it has been because I had a great time with this one.

#02- Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
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[Watched in theaters]

"What a wonderful day!"

I loved this. I get why not everyone does as much as me, I understand the gripes and even agree with them to an extent, but I thought Noa was a great protagonist, I absolutely ADORED Raka, seriously he's probably my favorite ape in the series, and I found Proximus Caesar to be a phenomenal villain who I hope we get more of eventually. The effects here are also astounding and I'm so glad I got to see it in IMAX (sorry @TheOriginalTiki).

#01- I Saw the TV Glow
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[Watched in theaters]

I know I kind of gave this one's placement away when I saw it, but man did I connect to this movie so much. The visual aesthetics were absolutely gorgeous and the cinematography was amazing, plus I love the feeling of corrupted nostalgia and identity that it plays with. I loved the director's work on We're All Going to the World's Fair and playing with notions of creepypasta and online storytelling and while this movie is less focused on that, it definitely took inspiration from one of my favorite internet stories Candle Cove as well as serialized YA paranormal series that I grew up loving. This isn't everyone's cup of tea and I totally get that, but it's also why I love it so much. Expect this one to be high on my end of year list and to probably reveal its place at the second annual Golden Tikis.
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Alright, May is finally over and we look forward to another month of uninteresting fare in my humble opinion. I guess if I had to pick my most anticipated for the month, it'd probably end up being Inside Out 2, not because I think it's gonna be a great movie (I don't love the first) but there's just not a ton to be super excited about this month. I hope I can be proven wrong though.​
 

TheOriginalTiki

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The Watchers getting mixed reviews is the biggest bummer in a while. I swear this summer movie season is legitimately awful with how many movies with serious potential have ended up being mid at best. If Inside Out 2 and A Quiet Place Day One suffer the same fate I honestly might just loose it. I went to go see Challengers for a third time yesterday just out of desperation for SOMETHING of actual quality in a movie theater. This summer season be over soon enough.
 

PerGron

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The Watchers getting mixed reviews is the biggest bummer in a while. I swear this summer movie season is legitimately awful with how many movies with serious potential have ended up being mid at best. If Inside Out 2 and A Quiet Place Day One suffer the same fate I honestly might just loose it. I went to go see Challengers for a third time yesterday just out of desperation for SOMETHING of actual quality in a movie theater. This summer season be over soon enough.
I’m right there with ya man. Honestly the only thing left this summer I’m more than marginally interested in is Twisters, otherwise I’ve got nothing
 

TheOriginalTiki

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On the positive side of things, I just wanted to shout out Smiling Friends for the incredible season it's been having. It's just been genuine banger episode after banger episode, and the jump in ambition with all the mixed media visuals is truly something special. I missed seeing the first two seasons of Rick and Morty when they were airing live, so it's super exciting to be experiencing these episodes as soon as they come out. I feel like I'm witnessing a true "moment" in comedy.

Mr. Boss is one of the most brilliantly unsettling animated characters I've ever come across and I'm freaking LIVING for any and all screen time he gets. The mix of affection and malice the dude has in any given scene is ridiculous.
 

NateD1226

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Just finished Inside Out 2, and I also really enjoyed it. I’m not the biggest fan of the first movie, so I was so happy this one took all my complaints about the first and made it better!!! I’ve enjoyed a handful of Pixar’s recent entries this decade, but this and Luca have really stuck out to me quite wonderfully. Highly recommend!
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Also file me into the "Loved" camp, though for me I don't know if it tops the first movie. As far as being an emotional powerhouse I definitely think Inside Out 2 lacks a "take her to the moon for me" moment, but I also think it makes up for that through a combination of insanely creative set pieces, a super poignant and complex personification of Anxiety, and a level of balance between all the Emotion characters that was crazy impressive. It's a damn magic trick to me how this movie literally doubles the number of emotions and yet somehow does a better job than the first movie did in making sure they all had meaningful plot stuff to do, whereas in the first film it definitely felt like the Anger/Disgust/Fear trio didn't have a ton of individual standout plot relevance outside of just being the ones left in headquarters. Envy is probably the least plot-relevant emotion character, but Ayo Edebiri is a freaking legend and she has some of the biggest laughs of the movie for me. Generally speaking I think the comedy in this film outpaces the first by a considerable degree.

One of the absolute smartest things this movie does is for the most part not break up the original crew into side stories. That's a mistake that sequels make time and time again, and it's super refreshing that this movie didn't fall into that trap. If I had one complaint it's that the "real world" stuff didn't hit as hard for me, and honestly I can already sort of start to feel Pete Docter's recent comments about leaning away from autobiographical stories coming into play here. This film feels much less like a rock solid narrative and much more like a playground for creative ideas. My main complaint is that Riley's friends kind of feel like NPCs. They're all just fleshed out enough but none of them really stand out. Even the main "cool girl" feels derivative of a similar "Rival friend" character from Ralph Breaks the Internet, even down to her design to a certain extent. I know the humans aren't really the focus of these movies, much like Toy Story, but I was definitely missing the presence of the parents and those scenes generally hit a lot harder for me than the teen drama.

With that said, the Anxiety element of the movie is definitely a high point, and I appreciate the hell out of this movie for having such a nuanced and complex depiction of it. The movie really does feel like an anxiety attack in a lot of places with Riley navigating the social stuff. The ending of the Anxiety character's arc, while not as instantly poignant as the "Sadness Becomes Joy" scene, definitely did get me teary eyed as someone who has had a lifelong battle with the emotion in my day to day life. Move over Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, this movie has a new contender for the title of best depiction of a panic attack in film, animated or otherwise.

I'm a bit let down that so much of the score is just remixes of the original tracks, but the remixes are great and those original tracks are absolute bangers and some of the all time best in Pixar's musical portfolio, so I can't complain that much. I think the original is one of the few scores that actively works as an album listening experience, so this one is a bit of a step down in that department but not a lot to significantly drag down the movie for me.

As far as Pixar's recent output goes, I think Luca pulls the bigger emotional punches and feels a bit fresher as what is essentially Pixar's take on a Ghibli style "vibes" movie, but Inside Out 2 is definitely the most consistently entertaining movie Pixar has put out since Coco bar none. As much as I love Luca I'm really not crazy about the whole "sea monster sheep herders" world building in the first act and the movie takes a while to get going because of that. Once it gets to Porto Rosso it becomes one of my all time favorite Pixar movies, but that's almost halfway through the run time.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Also can we please talk about how insane it is that Guardians of the Galaxy and Moana got Epcot attractions before Inside Out?? If there's ANY IP that feels absolutely tailor made for a specific park, it's this one and Epcot. The fact that nothing's even on the drawing board for it is utterly mind-blowing. It just fits the vibes of the park like a damn puzzle piece.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Going to highly recommend "Tuesday" to anyone who is into A24 Arthouse Horror. It's got some real Ari Aster energy to it. I'll give a more detailed review once I get around to seeing a few more June releases. Between this, Inside Out 2, and The Hitman, this month is already the best roster of 2024 releases by a considerable margin.
 

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