The Imagineering Break Room

[Suchomimus]

 

[champdisney]

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[Daveeeeed]

Lol. I meant I completely disagreed with your assessment. I thought Poe and Rey’s character development was outstanding. They really made Poe into a someone who could be a leader for the rebellion and made Rey into a great hero. I also thought that Finn’s development as a soldier was great. He went from somewhat cowardly (trying to get off the ship) to be willing to sacrifice himself for the rebellion. While I was a bit underwhelmed by the Snoke reveal (or lack thereof), I feel he will definitely be expanded upon in spin-off films; similar to how Palpatine was expanded on in the Prequels.

I loved TLJ; the character development, symbolism, cinematography, unpredictability, and especially the production design were awesome.
Kylo really stood out to me by the end as one of the best villains in recent memory; didn't feel that at all in TFA, and I really liked what Johnson did with all of the characters fleshed out in TLJ from TFA.
I just really wish Rose wouldn't have been so annoying and the humor would have had better strategic placement or were withheld entirely. Also for how big the Star Wars universe is it took place over far too little time. The movie was trying to feel like the Dark Knight of Star Wars, but I feel like they also tried to keep it lighthearted enough for the young audience which doesn't really mesh well together. I really liked it, but worth mentioning, still haha.
That moment when you realize when you're responding to a message from last year...
More Disney movie opinions then Loved Black Panther & Infinity War. Solo was disappointing, and Incredibles 2 was good but still overrated.

Oh and hey guys! What's up

 

[Suchomimus]

and I really liked what Johnson did with all of the characters fleshed out in TLJ from TFA.

You call Snoke and Phasmas’ characters “fleshed out”?

 

[Suchomimus]

overrated

 

[kmbmw777]

Solo was disappointing, and Incredibles 2 was good but still overrated.

I still haven’t seen either of them

 

[Daveeeeed]

You call Snoke and Phasmas’ characters “fleshed out”?

Spoiler follows & IMO lol
Phasma was boring in TFA. Useless period in TLJ. I actually am not a fan of Phasma's death scene at all with Rose and Finn; it was just too over the top... especially their escape.
Snoke's use was brilliant in TLJ. If he didn't die in TLJ he would have surely died in the next one in a predictable fashion. Snoke had a purpose: it was to let Ben truly become Kylo. It was a perfect climax for Ben Solo's arc to become the villain we saw at the end of the film. The other characters like Finn, Poe, to a lesser extent Rey, and even Luke had a solid arc. Rose was annoying, but she did help Finn grow, but I still think it was a mistake to have her in the way they did. Anyway, the film had tons of faults still which really sunk it, but it had an intriguing premise and was far more creative than generally well-received blockbusters like Jurassic World. It was also gorgeous to look at. Rant closed lol

 

[Suchomimus]

Rose was annoying, but she did help Finn grow, but I still think it was a mistake to have her in the way they did.

It’s not just your opinion. That’s just the reality of the situation.

Spoiler: Rant on Rose

Her character creates such a mood whiplash never seen in SW, where she switches from being sad and depressed when we first see her, to being enthusiastic and fangirling over Finn, then it continues on we see more of her. But by far the worst part of her was when she rammed into Finn’s skidder just as he’s prepared to sacrifice her, telling him “We don’t win by fighting what we hate. We do it by fighting for what we love.” And then kisses him while the First Order’s cannon fires on the door, and keep in mind she didn’t know Luke was coming, so yeah, she not only deliberately doomed the Resistance her sister died to protect by letting the FO win; contradicting her philosophy; but she also did it as part of a romantic subplot that had no place within the story and ate up more screen time than it should’ve. But despite that, Rose is no where as near as the worst SW character as Admiral Gender Studies.

 

[Daveeeeed]

It’s not just your opinion. That’s just the reality of the situation.

Spoiler: Rant on Rose

Her character creates such a mood whiplash never seen in SW, where she switches from being sad and depressed when we first see her, to being enthusiastic and fangirling over Finn, then it continues on we see more of her. But by far the worst part of her was when she rammed into Finn’s skidder just as he’s prepared to sacrifice her, telling him “We don’t win by fighting what we hate. We do it by fighting for what we love.” And then kisses him while the First Order’s cannon fires on the door, and keep in mind she didn’t know Luke was coming, so yeah, she not only deliberately doomed the Resistance her sister died to protect by letting the FO win; contradicting her philosophy; but she also did it as part of a romantic subplot that had no place within the story and ate up more screen time than it should’ve. But despite that, Rose is no where as near as the worst SW character as Admiral Gender Studies.

Definitely, agree. Despite not being an alien, her character was nearly as bad as Jar Jar Binks IMO, but I still think it didn't sink the film too much.
Have you seen Incredibles 2? Would love to hear your opinion on that

 

[Suchomimus]

Have you seen Incredibles 2? Would love to hear your opinion on that

I enjoyed that movie, though not as much as the first one. I wish they had kept that second idea pitch of the script where superheroes were brought back as show business like Cops or a game show, as a commentary on media perception and the superhero genre of today; instead of combining that plot with an earlier pitch on A.I..

 

[Disney Dad 3000]

JUst getting home from 11 days in OTown, and since I don't think I'll be able to knock out the rest of a competent write up for Hollywood Falls, some slightly Imagineering musings from my trip

MK
Ugh. Easily the most laborious part of my trip.
As crazy as @MisterPenguin fireworks theater idea might be, don't know that I will purposely stay for fireworks at MK again. Done it many times over the years but after a day or days dealing with crowds there and then that. Just ugh.
No riverboat running and only 1 train. :/
So sick of TL dance parties
I'm ok keeping Buzz in TL, but really wish they'd update it somehow so you could actually see what you are doing
SM felt as rough as ever. Chiro here I come.
muppets at the HOP gets a thumbs up.

HS
Some day, they'll stop putting a freaking stage in front of that beautiful theater
Even as painful as it was with no GMR, I still love walking around HS
Hope they find a way to keep Indy. I still dig it, it packs a crowd. Just update a little.

Epcot
15 min wait in Mexico. Hmmm.
TT still good, but Nemo without a working chase scene is even worse than usual.
FEA is growing on me if she not a little.
WS stilll keeps me loving this park. Just add a country already.
I'm not worried about the crowds at the IG, but geez I think the gondola is going to ruin a great view.
I will be very interested to see how the GOTG and Rat show buildings look at ground level when finished.

AK
Saw ROL for the first time. Finally. Not ashamed to say I like it, especially for this park.
FOP still good, though I was at the end and didn't get quite the kind immersion.
Yes dinoland is weird here, but sure looks better and more fun at night.

What happened to the pile of BBQ on my sandwich at Flametree!??!

Did Tusker House for the first time and enjoyed it. Still liking my strategy of going at the end of breakfast for these character meals. Have gotten 2 rounds of meets every time going that. Plus got to sample lunch too.

Call me crazy, but as much as I like KS, I miss the story angle still.

For my money, don't know that any of the other 3 parks will ever match AK night or day. If they would add another land with 2-3 solid attractions, no way.

BW resort
First actual stay here after being around it many many times and at nearby resorts. Just love being able to chill early in the am or late at night on the water.

 

[MisterPenguin]

As crazy as @MisterPenguin fireworks theater idea might be, don't know that I will purposely stay for fireworks at MK again. Done it many times over the years but after a day or days dealing with crowds there and then that. Just ugh.

People judging my ideas as crazy is something I get a lot.

That all changes once they see the implementation.

 

[Pi on my Cake]

People judging my ideas as crazy is something I get a lot.

That all changes once they see the implementation.

I was this close to including a fireworks viewing area as a part of Progress Avenue in my final project for Sorcerer's Apprentice with a small stadium style seating area. Nothing major, but enough to help. But I didn't have enough time to explain it properly. Plus it was inspired by your write up anyways lol.

There's a lot of practicality concerns with adding seating areas, but something needs to be done about overcrowding in Magic. Especially with the fireworks

 

[Daveeeeed]

I enjoyed that movie, though not as much as the first one. I wish they had kept that second idea pitch of the script where superheroes were brought back as show business like Cops or a game show, as a commentary on media perception and the superhero genre of today; instead of combining that plot with an earlier pitch on A.I..

I read that a lot of good ideas had to be tossed because they pushed up the production a year. Makes me still kind of excited for Incredibles 3 someday because it could be really good.

 

[Daveeeeed]

JUst getting home from 11 days in OTown, and since I don't think I'll be able to knock out the rest of a competent write up for Hollywood Falls, some slightly Imagineering musings from my trip

MK
Ugh. Easily the most laborious part of my trip.
As crazy as @MisterPenguin fireworks theater idea might be, don't know that I will purposely stay for fireworks at MK again. Done it many times over the years but after a day or days dealing with crowds there and then that. Just ugh.
No riverboat running and only 1 train. :/
So sick of TL dance parties
I'm ok keeping Buzz in TL, but really wish they'd update it somehow so you could actually see what you are doing
SM felt as rough as ever. Chiro here I come.
muppets at the HOP gets a thumbs up.

HS
Some day, they'll stop putting a freaking stage in front of that beautiful theater
Even as painful as it was with no GMR, I still love walking around HS
Hope they find a way to keep Indy. I still dig it, it packs a crowd. Just update a little.

Epcot
15 min wait in Mexico. Hmmm.
TT still good, but Nemo without a working chase scene is even worse than usual.
FEA is growing on me if she not a little.
WS stilll keeps me loving this park. Just add a country already.
I'm not worried about the crowds at the IG, but geez I think the gondola is going to ruin a great view.
I will be very interested to see how the GOTG and Rat show buildings look at ground level when finished.

AK
Saw ROL for the first time. Finally. Not ashamed to say I like it, especially for this park.
FOP still good, though I was at the end and didn't get quite the kind immersion.
Yes dinoland is weird here, but sure looks better and more fun at night.

What happened to the pile of BBQ on my sandwich at Flametree!??!

Did Tusker House for the first time and enjoyed it. Still liking my strategy of going at the end of breakfast for these character meals. Have gotten 2 rounds of meets every time going that. Plus got to sample lunch too.

Call me crazy, but as much as I like KS, I miss the story angle still.

For my money, don't know that any of the other 3 parks will ever match AK night or day. If they would add another land with 2-3 solid attractions, no way.

BW resort
First actual stay here after being around it many many times and at nearby resorts. Just love being able to chill early in the am or late at night on the water.

AK has really grown on me. Ever since Lion King moved it in my eyes has been a superb park. It only keeps getting better. A good spot for viewing HEA and to see it with little crowds is at the New Fantasyland Gates outside Pinocchio's.

People judging my ideas as crazy is something I get a lot.

That all changes once they see the implementation.

From a new hotel at the park entrance???

I was this close to including a fireworks viewing area as a part of Progress Avenue in my final project for Sorcerer's Apprentice with a small stadium style seating area. Nothing major, but enough to help. But I didn't have enough time to explain it properly. Plus it was inspired by your write up anyways lol.

There's a lot of practicality concerns with adding seating areas, but something needs to be done about overcrowding in Magic. Especially with the fireworks

The overcrowding issue would be solved if Epcot became EPCOT Center again and competed with the MK.

 

[Pi on my Cake]

AK has really grown on me. Ever since Lion King moved it in my eyes has been a superb park. It only keeps getting better. A good spot for viewing HEA and to see it with little crowds is at the New Fantasyland Gates outside Pinocchio's.

From a new hotel at the park entrance???

The overcrowding issue would be solved if Epcot became EPCOT Center again and competed with the MK.

That used to be my absolute favorite spot to watch Wishes! Absolutely magical feeling surrounded by fireworks! But watching Happily Ever After there, you miss the projections and Tinkerbell. And that's like half the show.

 

[Suchomimus]

I read that a lot of good ideas had to be tossed because they pushed up the production a year. Makes me still kind of excited for Incredibles 3 someday because it could be really good.

I think instead of I:3, they should do a tv series as Pixar’s equivalent to Batman: The Animated Series; at least first.

 

[Pi on my Cake]

I think instead of I3, they should do a tv series as Pixar’s equivalent to Batman: The Animated Series; at least first.

I agree! I've been saying they should do an Incredibles TV series for 14 years now lol

But with Big Hero 6 just starting, they probably wouldn't want to do an Incredibles show for
a few years.

 

[Suchomimus]

But with Big Hero 6 just starting, they probably wouldn't want to do an Incredibles show for
a few years.

Well if DC released some of their animated series within the same time as some of their older shows in late 90s and early 2000s than so can Disney; or more specifically Pixar.

 

[Pi on my Cake]

Well if DC released some of their animated series within the same time as some of their older shows in late 90s and early 2000s than so can Disney; or more specifically Pixar.

Personally, I think the difference would be that these are entirely different superhero shows with family as a major theme. Where all the DC shows served more as spin offs of each other.

But I'd love an incredibles show and would have no problem with them doing it. I just don't think they would right now