The Imagineer 2-- R1, Project 2

MaterA113

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I dont care if you vote for yourself :).. But no i cant see who votes, unless i make it public to see who EVERYONE votes for, which i think is kinda creepy haha

And yes WDWVacationer you should know at lteast WHO the winner is tonight (if everything goes to plan)

ALSO, TEAMS i suggest trying to begin to deliberation for new team leaders. I will post AT THE LATEST! the "eliminee" tmrw morning (6am EST), and will post projects. BUT would LOVE to have new team leaders by NOON EST tmrw.
 

MaterA113

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CORRECTION: if you could PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have your NEW Team Leaders chosen my later tonite that would be GREAT! But i understand if not.
 

MaterA113

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TheMadHatter Please send to me!!


I havent recieved ANY scores from ANY judges so far.. SO... im waiting till i have at least 2. (if MadHatter sends me his, then ill only need one more, to make it fair)

I have MY numbers and i have the polls numbers... Winning team gets 5, and "loosing" gets 3 (from the poll)..

Waiting for other judges so i can announce winner, and notify the bottom two!

BELIVE ME THIS WAS A HARD ONE!
 

MaterA113

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Yes till 8pm EST

Al you need to send me are 2 numbers, one for each team :)


NOTE: It is VERY CLOSE RIGHT NOW! only .25 point seperates you :)
 

MaterA113

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The Scores Are In!!! And it was close! (even though we only have Disneyson, mine, and Public Vote scores)

Chip n Dale's Imagineering Rangers
Public Vote- 3
MaterA113- 4.5
Disneyson1- 3.5

Goofy's Brainstormers
Public Vote- 5
MaterA113- 3
Disneyson1- 4

Winner by less than .5 a point (after we added and averaged) is.... WDWVationer's Goofy's Brainstormers!! Congrats!

Here are Disneyson's comments (ill post mine later):
First of all, I just wanna say that ALL projects were fantastic! The quality of the projects this season is just fantastic. The food, overall, particularly blew me out of the water and, overall, MUCH more inspired choices were made than last season. BUT… I’m a judge. And we have to make tough decisions…

Chip ‘n’ Dale’s Imagineering Rangers – Luxo’s – 3.5

I love the idea of the Pixar creators going to the restaurant for lunch as it was in real life, but the idea seems to get convoluted when the “real world” comes into play. I suppose that’s the only way you can really justify the Pixar theme, but I would have rather it be the “real” restaurant they visited but with subtle hints of Pixar, like maybe the fish tanks you referenced or maybe an open closet with a glowing red light over it foreshadowing Monsters Inc., but with some special effects.

Still, the décor is great, if a little mixed-up and non-cohesive. A simple drawing might not have been bad to see how the pieces would work together. Let me tell you now, I LOVED the idea of the concept art on the walls (Sid would get a kick out of those! I’m not sure if he’s ever used them in his movies!). The whole thing seemed incredibly classy, which is a very good thing. Still, it felt a little “cold” to me… kinda “sterile”, not conducive for imagination. (BTW, LOL at those costumes! They may not have been the best, most cohesive choices but the fact that a pic of David Beckham snuck in there was freaking hilarious)

The lunch options are really nicely inspired as are the kid’s meal choices. But… roast Kevin?!? Took off ½ a point for eating one of the major protagonists of a Pixar film. Ugh. Pass! And something weird – Rex appeared twice! Nobody thought of Mike, I guess. The whole thing’s incredibly gourmet while still catering to the theme park crowd.

Goofy’s Brainstormers – Walt’s Place – 4

Just got a PatF refrence… ANYWAYS, the backstory of this place is absolutely phenomenal. I can just imagine the chaos that might have ensued if everyone was together…

The décor seems fantastic and VERY Disney. I LOVE these drawings! They remind me so much of Animator’s Palatte! It’s fantastic, especially the Hyperion room. Something makes me feel so happy and homey and… Disney-esque. Not sure how I feel about a lifeless Pinocchio staring at me while I eat, though...!

It’s a shame that the menu didn’t have very many, choices, but although the menu was not as “amazing” as Luxo’s, it did what it had to do. But one big thing…

NO VEGITERIAN ENTREES!!!! I’m not a vegetarian, but I know that’s a big deal if you forget that.

Also, character dining seemed like an “easy” thing to do. I’m not sure if that was completely necessary, but nonetheless, great job on the project!


ATTENTION OTHER JUDGES!! Feel free to comment on here as well. Just dont post points :)

As Disneyson said this was a HARD CHOICE! And overall very very very (surprisingly) good!

I will notify the "bottom 2" as Tazer has sent to me.
 

Fractal514

Well-Known Member
I take full responsibility for the Brainstormers menu not being better. I had asked to do it, and began work, then developed a stomach flu, which made the notion of working on food rather unpleasant. I think what the team put together last minute was great, considering.

Not making an excuse or anything, especially since we won, but just making it clear that the fault there was mine and not me teams.
 

Tazer19

Active Member
They're not on time... so... actually, I don't know. What happens now? Can the decision change if the other judges vote differently?
Yeah, I'm not trying to ruffle feathers, but after all the time both teams put into this and seeing how close it is, I think it's only fair to get all the scores.

EDIT: And trust me I see the irony of me bringing timing into this after we didn't get a project in last time ;)
 

hack2112

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Ok here's my take on the project, and yes, it's long.

First of all I would like to say that both teams did a great job creating restaurants that I would love to dine at. With that said it’s time to get to the judging. I broke up this project into three categories, each with a maximum score of 5 points. These categories were Design and Creativity, Food, and Placement within the land (which includes story). I’ll start with Chip & Dale’s Imagineering Rangers.

Choosing Pixar Place was a great decision, as it’s on the complete other side of the park from most of the table service restaurant. Your team obviously has a great amount of creativity, and it clearly shows through your idea. However, with everything put together it seemed very mismatched. I’m not sure you all ever really decided on one specific vision for the restaurant, and the result is a place that is a mess of all things art deco. One thing to remember is that not all art deco goes with all art deco. As for choosing art deco itself, I’m torn. Though I love the idea of art deco, I don’t think Pixar was the theme to use with it. Pixar, to me seems that it would be more well suited if it were done in a modern and minimalistic way. As for your reception room, the idea is good, but getting said idea across to guests would be incredibly difficult. Your idea for rooms is fantastic, especially your future release area. An ever-changing room will bring guests back to see what’s up with America’s most beloved animation studio. The idea for a bar tied to Finding Nemo is a great idea as well. Now, on to some more of the bad. The furniture selection is, once again, a hodge-podge of everything, and none of it meshed. If an all-white room is what you’re after for the reception area, don’t fill it with wooden and cream-colored chairs, and especially keep single chairs to a minimum. This is a high-class restaurant, not a doctor’s waiting room. Also, I have to really question the idea of using dividers instead of walls. What you put in them is great, but the way you have them spaced out in the floor plan irks me. If I were sitting by those dividers I would feel very weird about people spying on me and listening in to my conversation during the meal. Also, unless your ceiling is going to have some major art or display on it, there is really no need for it to be as high as you make it seem. Your placement of the kitchen was also rather poor, in my opinion. Finally, if you are trying to make the dining area feel as open as you possibly can, pillars do not really help that illusion.

We now move on to food. I’ll start with lunch. Honestly, I would not eat at Luxo’s for lunch if all you offered was a collection of sandwiches, a salad, and a steak and eggs dish. These are meals that I either would be eating at breakfast, or at the quick service place across the way. It also doesn’t scream daring enough for me. Your dinner menu, on the other hand, is absolutely fantastic, and exactly what I want to see in a meal. It is varied, and the names are just oh so cute! (Except for Roast Kevin. That one’s rather disturbing.)

Finally, your placement is rather odd. I understand that the SS is a great open spot to use, but I feel that it would be much better suited as a space for a new attraction. Also, it seems you are not going with the brick-style that Pixar Place is known for, which completely destroys the illusion for me. Also, building the restaurant a few feet higher because you wanted stairs is, in my opinion, a very expensive waste of money that could be used for more decorations inside the establishment itself. Your story, as well, seemed very clunky. Sometimes, the best story is the simplest one possible. Overall, however, your project went over incredibly well with me, and I scored you as such: Design/ Creativity: 3, Food: 4, and Placement: 4, giving you a total score of 11/15.

Now, it’s time to score Goofy’s Brainstormers. Your design and creativity for me were a big hit. Pulling inspiration from some great films, and creating not one, but two dining destinations is a great feat. From the elevator to the two dining rooms, each with a completely different, yet similar feel are incredible. The only thing I would say is to place a cushioned back on your chairs, which are phenomenal as well. I only have two things to say (I would lavish you with more praise, but it’s not my style. Just know that it’s there.). One, your bathrooms are a bit small, and in a bit of an awkward place, and two, if you could have one room that cycled through a different movie every week, that would really give some more incentive to guests to come back, even on their vacations. It should be said, however, that you all worked wonderfully as a team, creating a single, sweeping vision for the entire complex.

As for your food, I thought your lunch offerings did not vary much from your dinner ones, which really put me off. It’s never smart to serve those heavy meals that are usually hallmarks of dinner during lunch, especially with your lighter atmosphere during the lunch service. Your menu as a whole, however, looks absolutely scrumptious, and I would order most everything off of it. Yum!

Finally, your placement is incredible. Building up, instead of out, is a very smart move that takes up the least space, yet still ends up offering a great view, for both people looking at and from the restaurant. Your story really works for you, and though I said previously that a simple story works best, in this case, yours just feels right. My last criticism is the blue lighting on the building itself. While blue lighting does look pretty, I feel you could really hit it home with something like the castle lighting that slowly changes colors, to truly make the entire place a work of art. I scored you all as such: Design/ Creativity: 5, Food: 4, and Placement: 5, giving you a total score of 14/15.

Once again, you all did an incredible job and I really did like both of your ideas, but the winner for me is Goofy’s Brainstormers. Good luck to everyone and see you all after the next round!
 

MaterA113

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Tazer i understand where you are coming from. And yes once again, its a time issue. And time is a problem when working with groups of people. And the thing is they KNEW the times and such, SO....And no the decision cant change because that wouldbe not fair (i think)

Also this is a trial juding, if this doesnt work (ie the way we do it) we might just change it up a bit for a future project. . (were going to do this way at least ONE MORE try for P3 to see if good or not.

I think that if some dont post.. we might need to find a new judge.. (and i have one in mind)


Im extremely busy.. So the comments will be tomorrow sorry :(

Newproject to be posted in the morning.
 

MathewGW

Member
I will agree with Tazer here, and this sin;t sour grapes I hope people understand, but I think it's harsh that you're so concerned with the speed of the projects that you're overlooking details. How do you know that the other judges wouldn't have altered the outcome? Yes I get that giving things more time adds to the overall length, but you're not giving those playing a fair crack at the whip. You just seem so caught up with getting through everything.

Rant over, hope I havn't offended anyone with my comments
 

Tazer19

Active Member
Understood. Since you're considering a possible change up... as I mentioned before, I think the public vote should be re-examined. As we saw today, there's a lot of weight to it and it could be a matter of which team members are on to vote during it.

Again, not trying to be a pain in the butt, just trying to find a fair solution for those of us that are dedicated to the game.

Looking forward to P3!
 

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