The Great Movie Ride II - Hype/Discussion Thread

DisneyManOne

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We finally have a name and an opening timeframe for the Splash Mountain retheme! Upon its re-opening, the ride is set to be called "Tiana's Bayou Adventure", and it will open in late 2024 at both Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom! With that in mind, I'd assume that the original Splash Mountain will likely close at some point in early 2023, more than likely around the time the ride normally closes for its winter refurbishment.

And boy oh boy, I cannot wait for this new experience to open!

 

MagicKingdom4Ever

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We finally have a name and an opening timeframe for the Splash Mountain retheme! Upon its re-opening, the ride is set to be called "Tiana's Bayou Adventure", and it will open in late 2024 at both Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom! With that in mind, I'd assume that the original Splash Mountain will likely close at some point in early 2023, more than likely around the time the ride normally closes for its winter refurbishment.

And boy oh boy, I cannot wait for this new experience to open!

Still haven't said how they're going to make it work in Frontierland or Critter Country.
 

MagicKingdom4Ever

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We’ll have to wait and see if Disney were to make changes to those lands as well.
My guess is that Critter Country will be laid to waste (boo!) while New Orleans Square is expanded into its area. That means that Pooh, Hungry Bear, and related things would have to be taken out. As for Frontierland, I do not see a way to make it work. With Big Thunder Mountain so close and the attraction sticking out into the river, it would feel awkward to go from an area based off of the 19th Century into a film set in the 20th Century.
 

MagicKingdom4Ever

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We finally have a name and an opening timeframe for the Splash Mountain retheme! Upon its re-opening, the ride is set to be called "Tiana's Bayou Adventure", and it will open in late 2024 at both Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom! With that in mind, I'd assume that the original Splash Mountain will likely close at some point in early 2023, more than likely around the time the ride normally closes for its winter refurbishment.

And boy oh boy, I cannot wait for this new experience to open!

To be honest though, I'm glad they chose a good-sounding name for the ride. The working title of "New Adventures with Princess Tiana" was terrible.

You know, Twilight Roxas actually called the attraction this name in his Disneyland Mexico thread.
 

DisneyManOne

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My guess is that Critter Country will be laid to waste (boo!) while New Orleans Square is expanded into its area. That means that Pooh, Hungry Bear, and related things would have to be taken out. As for Frontierland, I do not see a way to make it work. With Big Thunder Mountain so close and the attraction sticking out into the river, it would feel awkward to go from an area based off of the 19th Century into a film set in the 20th Century.
Regarding your guess about Disneyland's Splash Mountain, that is exactly what I think will happen. Honestly, I'm reminded of the Bayou Country concept that was devised for SYWTBAI two years ago, and I firmly believe that Disney Imagineering will be going down a similar path later on down the line.

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As for Winnie the Pooh, I definitely think he's going to be moving over to Fantasyland pretty soon. Honestly, he, being a character whose roots are firmly set in England, never really fit in Critter Country, themed around the Pacific Northwest, to begin with. And as much as I'd hate to see even more Disney Parks actors losing their jobs, the Fantasyland Theatre space is the only space available where they can build a new dark ride. I mean, they could always do something with the old Motor Boat Cruise area -- which I actually have an idea for; maybe I'll share it later -- but I think the likelier choice would be getting rid of the Theatre to either move the existing ride or do a new Pooh-based ride. I mean, S.W. Wilson once did a Disneyland map with a clone of Tokyo Disneyland's Pooh's Hunny Hunt situated where the Theatre is, so they definitely have enough space for that.

Now, for the Magic Kingdom's Splash Moutain, I actually mentioned this on the forums before, but given that there is a walkway going along the edge of the Splash Mountain track (where it makes the wide loop after going down the final drop), I think that they could designate the area on the western side of that walkway -- mainly Pecos Bill and the railroad station -- as sort of a New Orleans mini-area. That way, Big Thunder Mountain can still be a part of the Old West area of Frontierland. In fact, I actually found a post I made in July of 2020, detailing how I'd lay it out. Here it is...

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Wow, it's been a long time since I've last talked about my ideas for Disney World, but recent news and the latest SYWTBAI prompt has lit a light bulb for me. As we've all heard, Splash Mountain will soon shed its Song of the South basis in favor of The Princess and the Frog. Now, at Disneyland, it's a natural choice given that New Orleans Square is right next door to their Splash Mountain. But in the Magic Kingdom? Well, Splash Mountain has always sort of stuck out like a sore thumb, going from a Southwestern town to the Deep South. What to do? Well, here's how I'd set things up.


This is the area I'm working with. I think this gives enough space to do something really cool.

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First and foremost, I'd take a road many people are going down. I'd turn Pecos Bill Cafe into Tiana's Palace. It would be a brilliant two-story restaurant, just like in the movie. And is it big? Of course! Not only does it take up much of the space of the Pecos Bill Cafe, but it'd also take up much of the space of Tortuga Tavern in Adventureland. Plus, it'd really be something to be able to look out at the Rivers of America from the second level! Now, on the Frontierland side, the space not affected by Tiana's Palace would be the Pecos Bill entrance and the Town Hall facade. Basically, everything on the left-hand side of the Pecos Bill entrance accessed from the seating area would be spared. But what would it become? I'm glad you asked. I'd restore that part back into the Mile Long Bar. In fact, the only reason it closed before was so Pecos Bill could expand his cafe!

Of course, I don't want to cut Pecos out of Frontierland completely, so I'd make him the new owner of the joint. Pecos Bill's Mile Long Bar sounds like a good name to me! Like before, mirrors help to give the illusion that the bar is indeed a mile long. And since it's right nearby the Country Bear Jamboree, you can find Melvin, Max and Buff on the walls, singing and conversing with guests. Plus, look at some of the portraits proudly displayed: there's Pecos Bill atop Widowmaker, Slue Foot Sue, Casey Jones, John Henry, Johnny Appleseed and Paul Bunyan.

The streets leading from Caribbean Plaza to the main meat of Frontierland would be decked out in the New Orleans style. Not only would it help establish New Orleans as the "Paris of the West", but it makes sense because seeing the parade pass by these New Orleans buildings would give one the feeling of being a part of Mardi Gras! Many of the shops and winding passageways of New Orleans Square at Disneyland would be replicated here. Of course, one can meet the various characters from the film--Tiana, Naveen, Louis, Charlotte, and even Dr. Facilier--in this part of the area.

The area behind the railroad station would also become part of the New Orleans sub-area. The restrooms are removed and the picture shop becomes a part of what was once the Briar Patch shop (which, of course, becomes a shop themed around The Princess and the Frog).

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This is kind of a pipe dream for me, but I'd love to replicate the La Bouff Mansion as part of this area. Why? Because I think the gardens/masquerade ball area behind the house (it would either be built from the side, or from the back) would be perfect for parties. Think of it: masquerade balls being held during Mickey's Not-So-Scary Halloween Party and Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party...and even during Mardi Gras! Who wouldn't want to dance the night away with the Princess and the Frog gang, plus a few special guests -- namely, Mickey, Minnie, Donald and Goofy dressed in their Mardi Gras best? And for character-hunters, these masquerade balls could offer a chance to meet Charlotte in her ballgown and Tiana in her blue gown. Plus, Disney could make bank using that area for wedding receptions and other such events!

Plus, one big reason why I chose to do this set-up is because of the pathway that goes along the edge of Splash Mountain. In this set-up, this is the path that separates New Orleans from the Western town. Additional barriers would help to naturally separate this part from the rest of the land (for example, extended rockwork in the style of Splash Mountain would be found along the path leading towards Big Thunder Mountain.

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I didn't lay it down in the picture, but surely, the WDW Railroad station would be re-themed at some point. I imagine it'd blend together both New Orleans and "Western" styles. For example, I think that the original railroad station is just generic enough to pass off as both "Western" and as "New Orleans".

What do you guys think?
 
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MagicKingdom4Ever

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Regarding your guess about Disneyland's Splash Mountain, that is exactly what I think will happen. Honestly, I'm reminded of the Bayou Country concept that was devised for SYWTBAI two years ago, and I firmly believe that Disney Imagineering will be going down a similar path later on down the line.



As for Winnie the Pooh, I definitely think he's going to be moving over to Fantasyland pretty soon. Honestly, he, being a character whose roots are firmly set in England, never really fit in Critter Country, themed around the Pacific Northwest, to begin with. And as much as I'd hate to see even more Disney Parks actors losing their jobs, the Fantasyland Theatre space is the only space available where they can build a new dark ride. I mean, they could always do something with the old Motor Boat Cruise area -- which I actually have an idea for; maybe I'll share it later -- but I think the likelier choice would be getting rid of the Theatre to either move the existing ride or do a new Pooh-based ride. I mean, S.W. Wilson once did a Disneyland map with a clone of Tokyo Disneyland's Pooh's Hunny Hunt situated where the Theatre is, so they definitely have enough space for that.

Now, for the Magic Kingdom's Splash Moutain, I actually mentioned this on the forums before, but given that there is a walkway going along the edge of the Splash Mountain track (where it makes the wide loop after going down the final drop), I think that they could designate the area on the western side of that walkway -- mainly Pecos Bill and the railroad station -- as sort of a New Orleans mini-area. That way, Big Thunder Mountain can still be a part of the Old West area of Frontierland. In fact, I actually found a post I made in July of 2020, detailing how I'd lay it out. Here it is...
Um, I'm not sure that Pooh will be moved to Fantasyland. The one reason why Disney put Pooh in Critter Country was because they didn't want it clashing with the Bavarian village redo of Fantasyland. As for these, I don't think that Frontierland can just be redone like that. Splash Mountain is not a "sore thumb" in Frontierland. I think it fits because it is based around folklore from the time of American settlement. Frontierland is not tied to the southwest, but takes inspiration from all sorts of places in America during the settlement age. Tom Sawyer Island is also something that draws from the American south and it is in the area too. The 1920s period (When PATF is set) would ruin Frontierland's theme. Maybe if there was already New Orleans in the area, it could fit, but there isn't.

Not to mention, I'm sure that PATF has some stereotypical potrayals of Voodoo people (Voodoo dolls, evil Voodoo leaders, etc.)
 

Disney Dad 3000

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Um, I'm not sure that Pooh will be moved to Fantasyland. The one reason why Disney put Pooh in Critter Country was because they didn't want it clashing with the Bavarian village redo of Fantasyland. As for these, I don't think that Frontierland can just be redone like that. Splash Mountain is not a "sore thumb" in Frontierland. I think it fits because it is based around folklore from the time of American settlement. Frontierland is not tied to the southwest, but takes inspiration from all sorts of places in America during the settlement age. Tom Sawyer Island is also something that draws from the American south and it is in the area too. The 1920s period (When PATF is set) would ruin Frontierland's theme. Maybe if there was already New Orleans in the area, it could fit, but there isn't.

Not to mention, I'm sure that PATF has some stereotypical potrayals of Voodoo people (Voodoo dolls, evil Voodoo leaders, etc.)

I dont think you are going to see any voodoo in this attraction. While Facilier would make a tremendous transition for the final drop, it doesn't sound like he's going to be part of the attraction based on its premise.
 

MickeyWaffleCo.

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In the Parks
No
I am hoping against hope that Splash at WDW doesn’t close until late 2023 so I’ll have a chance to ride it. I do not understand in any way why Disney is shoving PATF into Frontierland. If they were building a new attraction somewhere else in the park I’d be all for it, but replacing a beloved attraction with a massive fanbase when it makes no thematic sense is confusing in so many ways.
 

tcool123

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I always argue that Splash Mountain doesn't make much sense either, it's not in the American West which Frontierland claims to be portraying. I'm not saying PATF fits better, but neither really match the Frontier theme in my opinion they're just American woodlands.
 

Disney Dad 3000

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Lost Island Theme Park

Don't know how many of you were aware or keeping up with this new theme park (in Iowa of all places), but this is a solid review/recap of the newly opened park. My grandmother lives in Iowa (about 2.5 hours away) so have been trying to figure out how to make a future side trip here on a visit to see her.

I have to say I'm impressed at the overall attempt at theming on some of the rides for an independent park like this. They partnered with some major ride manufacturers too. I don't think he mentions in the video, but Nakupo Air Coaster is actually a coaster they bought from a closed park in South Africa. Lots of open space which is not a surprise considering this is Iowa, but hoping they come back and plant more mature trees throughout the park which would give each of the themed areas a ton more character, I think.

 

tcool123

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Not sure who else would be excited about this but Disney finally added The Rocketeer’s soundtrack last year, rather unceremoniously I may add as this is one of the strongest soundtracks Disney has imho. It includes the 2020 remasters and 1991 original copies of the tracks. I’m personally beyond hyped to be adding this to my film playlists

 

MickeyWaffleCo.

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In the Parks
No
Not sure who else would be excited about this but Disney finally added The Rocketeer’s soundtrack last year, rather unceremoniously I may add as this is one of the strongest soundtracks Disney has imho. It includes the 2020 remasters and 1991 original copies of the tracks. I’m personally beyond hyped to be adding this to my film playlists


@D Hulk may find this of interest.
 

tcool123

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Jurassic World: Dominion, Minions: The Rise of Gru, and Thor: Love & Thunder. A pretty fun line up of summer flicks if I do say so myself.
I've seen those plus Elvis and Lightyear (and Dr Strange depending on what you consider Summer) and I haven't had a single dud for myself. Each of these films have been a lot of fun and entertaining, and I look forward to the various films I've yet to see like Top Gun and Black Phone alongside the new releases of Bullet Train and Nope.
 

Suchomimus

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I've seen those plus Elvis and Lightyear (and Dr Strange depending on what you consider Summer) and I haven't had a single dud for myself. Each of these films have been a lot of fun and entertaining, and I look forward to the various films I've yet to see like Top Gun and Black Phone alongside the new releases of Bullet Train and Nope.
Good to hear you enjoyed watching Lightyear.
 

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