The Future or Stitches Great Escape???

[Fun2BFree]

I actually enjoyed the orriginal. I wouldnt mind seing something like it at DHS with an Alien creature (from the Alien movies). You could be sitting in the dark and hear face huggers crawling around on the floor....then the Alien creature walking around dripping slime slobber on you....now that would be cool.

I saw the original concept art for AE with the Alien, and I'd always hoped they might also do something ala Poseidon's Adventure at IoA to make use of the Alien property. Imagine the host having an alien come out of his chest while yelling at you to keep moving. You'd then go into an AE-esque room for an encounter with the Alien. Of course, it would be 'no small kids allowed' for obvious reasons.

 

[Chester&Hester Enthusiast]

Seriously.

And let's also PLEASE take into account the fact that it loads 132 guests EVERY FOUR MINUTES. (plus 4 wheelchair spots and 4 seats for their guests)

So, yeah... technically 140 people every four minutes.

Potentially 2100 people an hour.

Could that perhaps play ANY role in its sometimes low wait times?

Oh, of course not... stupid me.

I forgot, it's because EVERYBODY hates it.

 

[dxwwf3]

Seriously.

And let's also PLEASE take into account the fact that it loads 132 guests EVERY FOUR MINUTES. (plus 4 wheelchair spots and 4 seats for their guests)

So, yeah... technically 140 people every four minutes.

Potentially 2100 people an hour.

Could that perhaps play ANY role in its sometimes low wait times?

There's no doubt about it. I've said for years that this building is a designed people mover. It takes a lot of people there to create a line. That was a big argument I made when people were saying that AE closed because of low lines. Yes they weren't what they used to be, but most attractions (especially non thrill rides) have drop offs, but when an attraction has that kind of capacity, it takes a lot of people there to create a queue.

And as far as currently 90 minute waits go, what doesn't have a huge line right now :lol:. AE would have had the same type of waits, heck if Mission To Mars was there right now it would probably have 60 minute waits.

And I was told by a shirt and tie CM (I don't know if the official term is a lead or not) two years ago that they hear plenty of complaints about SGE when I talked to him about it. Sure things can change in that amount of time, but I WAS told that. And I'm sure Enderikari wants to think that I'm making this up and that's fine. Contrary to what some believe, not everything done at WDW is perfect :lol:

 

[PeterPan1985]

while i think that stitch is a poor ride
Drew Carey's ride takes the case for the worse ride ever created.
Sitting in the dark for 20 mins listening to him drop things is not fun.

Stitch could've been better, the pre show is actually fine
i would've rather had a peter pan esque ride where you fly around the movie plot.

I agree with you on both fronts. Sounds Dangerous is one of those attractions I entered and immediately thought about leaving. What a waste of space.

The peter pan idea is great, but of course, stitch weasels his way into everything WDW...

 

[Hrudey3032]

Funny, we had a 90 minute wait all day the past week.

And honestly, guests really like it.

It gets very little negative feedback, trust me.

Research places all survey results for each day in our breakroom.

SGE generally gets nothing below a 7 (out of 10).

But whatev... as long as the super critical overhyped purists are happy...

Look I am not a purist but when I used to go to see AE the lines were always long yet the few times I have been to SGE I was able to pretty much walk on.I have no doubt many people like it,I honestly didn't but I love Test Track and Buzz's Space ranger Spin so I like change.With that being said I myself preferred AE alot more than SGE but to be honest I didn't really like Lilo and Stitch so maybe that plays into my dislike for the ride.The thing I was stating tho is when I have gone the line has been small at best so maybe I am wrong and just happened to be there at the wrong time.

 

[dxwwf3]

The thing I was stating tho is when I have gone the line has been small at best so maybe I am wrong and just happened to be there at the wrong time.

Maybe myself and everyone who has ever posted trip report pictures of tip boards (many sites have people who do this) go at the wrong times too :lol:

Good luck trying to convince the "all change is good change and Disney never makes a mistake" crowd.

 

[Hrudey3032]

I just hope little experiment 626 doesn't stick around much longer as it appears it is as successful as the new Spaceship Earth :lookaroun

 

[Enderikari]

Maybe myself and everyone who has ever posted trip report pictures of tip boards (many sites have people who do this) go at the wrong times too :lol:

Maybe, or perhaps your little snapshots in time are meaningless when compared across the actual data.

Disney isn't always right, but if they are wrong about something, its not going to be coming from the internet posting public, they simply do not have the correct information to make any sort of conjectures that approach accurate

 

[dxwwf3]

Disney isn't always right

Speaking of snapshots, let me go get my camera :animwink: :wave:

Maybe, or perhaps your little snapshots in time are meaningless when compared across the actual data.

If you can compare SGE counts from this past year to AE at about 1998 and then provide some numbers, I'd be very interested to hear the actual data.

 

[Enderikari]

If you can compare SGE counts from this past year to AE at about 1998 and then provide some numbers, I'd be very interested to hear the actual data.

Well, ask me a year ago, and I could have done just that. But, you know what? I wouldn't have dared to post the numbers. Because it doesn't matter how interested you are to hear the actual data, you aren't entitled to it

Speaking of snapshots, let me go get my camera

Surprising as it may seem, I could just list off the things I think are wrong with WDW, and have been spoken with about the fervency of the way I present it. But, that's real life stuff. The internet has no bearing on reality, which is delightful in its anonymity sometimes

 

[dxwwf3]

Well, ask me a year ago, and I could have done just that. But, you know what? I wouldn't have dared to post the numbers. Because it doesn't matter how interested you are to hear the actual data, you aren't entitled to it

You were the one who said I should compare with actual data :ROFLOL:

But, that's real life stuff. The internet has no bearing on reality

Huh?

 

[Enderikari]

You were the one who said I should compare with actual data :ROFLOL:

No, I didn't say that YOU should compare with the actual data. In fact, I distinctly remember saying

Maybe, or perhaps your little snapshots in time are meaningless when compared across the actual data.

Which implies that you will not have the actual data to compare it to. Sir, I don't have anything to prove. Believe me or not, I don't care. But reality doesn't care if you believe her either.

I may not know how a black hole forms, but that doesn't stop it from s__________g

 

[dxwwf3]

Which implies that you will not have the actual data to compare it to. Sir, I don't have anything to prove. Believe me or not, I don't care. But reality doesn't care if you believe her either.

Well me from like 5 minutes ago didn't gauge your implication properly. My 5 minute ago self was mistaken

 

[Enderikari]

Well me from like 5 minutes ago didn't gauge your implication properly. My 5 minute ago self was mistaken

Then my 5 minute ago self apologizes for not being clearer

edit - I also see that my post above was Filter-Owned... I like it though, I will leave it like that

 

[dxwwf3]

Then my 5 minute ago self apologizes for not being clearer

No problem

 

[CThaddeus]

Look I am not a purist but when I used to go to see AE the lines were always long yet the few times I have been to SGE I was able to pretty much walk on.I have no doubt many people like it,I honestly didn't but I love Test Track and Buzz's Space ranger Spin so I like change.With that being said I myself preferred AE alot more than SGE but to be honest I didn't really like Lilo and Stitch so maybe that plays into my dislike for the ride.The thing I was stating tho is when I have gone the line has been small at best so maybe I am wrong and just happened to be there at the wrong time.

I was there in 1996, 2000, and 2002. In all three instances I waited in no line at all for Alien Encounter. Just like I have with all the instances I've been on Stitch's Great Escape! I only had to wait in the holding area just outside the doors until the next show started. So, based on those experiences, I would have to conclude that Alien Encounter was no more popular than Stitch. Of course, I've never been there during the busy periods, so I don't know what the lines are like then, but what it all comes down to is that I never waited for Alien Encounter, either. If there had been a wait, I would most definitely have skipped it. It wasn't worth that much of my time. I only went for the SIR and Skippy show. Once that was over, so was the attraction, as far as I was concerned.

 

[dxwwf3]

So just remember this, MK is a family park...and Teens and Adults are part of the family.

Can't believe I glossed over this. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. Maybe that philosophy will once again reign in the future :shrug:

And to me, this is a much bigger argument than SGE wait times and actual "numbers". My favorite attraction is gone and that sucks, but now I'm much more able to enjoy the good times and forget about it not being there right now or what I feel about the current attraction. I will continue to defend it when being compared to the current attraction, I can keep my avatar/signature, and wear the merchandise in and out of the parks. But there is a much greater issue at hand than what is or has been in the attraction show building on the opposite side of the current Monsters Inc attraction.

 

[Damien666]

Can't believe I glossed over this. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. Maybe that philosophy will once again reign in the future :shrug:

And to me, this is a much bigger argument than SGE wait times and actual "numbers". My favorite attraction is gone and that sucks, but now I'm much more able to enjoy the good times and forget about it not being there right now or what I feel about the current attraction. I will continue to defend it when being compared to the current attraction, I can keep my avatar/signature, and wear the merchandise in and out of the parks. But there is a much greater issue at hand than what is or has been in the attraction show building on the opposite side of the current Monsters Inc attraction.

Exactly, the way I feel one of my favorite lands in the MK is just going absolutely bonkers. To me they just are not adding solid attractions, just ones that are "good enough". To put things plain and simple, Disney should not settle for "good enough". To be honest, you would never see attractions like SGE and possibly MILF in Tokyo Disneyland.

If the rumors are ture on COP being removed in 09', then they better give us something amazing otherwise TL will only have three attractions worth your time. (SM, TTA and Buzz.)

By the way, when it comes to the whole "Guests still like SGE etc." Yes there will be groups that like it, and then there are groups like Themeparkinsider.com which really don't. (Last time I checked it was a 3/10, though now it's a 2/10 since they recently did a site revamp.)

 

[PeoplemoverTTA]

...TL will only have three attractions worth your time. (SM, TTA and Buzz.)

After reading this post, I just realized that there are only 2 things I must do in TL on every trip...

TTA, and a strawberry banana smoothie at Auntie Gravity's. OK, and maybe one visit to CoP because for the last 5 years my family keeps saying, "It might be the last time we ever see it!"

I must agree with many that I do not care for SGE. I love Lilo & Stitch; however, I just didn't find this to be very fun (I remember my first time on AE in 1996 and hearing my twin brother screaming my name across the room....he was 15 :ROFLOL:As if I could save him from a huge alien :shrug.

I enjoy Buzz, although I wish they would update the tech to match DL's (especially the ability to email yourself your picture with score).

Having previously worked in market research for 5 years I can say that sometimes clients see some unexpected results. Of course, one of the inherent flaws of market research is that oftentimes some respondents answer questions with the responses they think the interviewer wants to hear. For that reason, I find some fault with market research conducted right on WDW property (and inside the parks especially). Market research is less likely to be skewed when conducted in an impartial place, and questions should be administered by a third party to maintain ethical standards. Oh, and the whole "How would you rate this attraction on a scale of 1 to 10, with one being not at all satisfied, and 10 being completely satisfied" or whatever, is especially faulty in this circumstance. People are being asked this while on a rush on their WDW vacation, and usually these surveys do not have open-ended questions (where people can say whatever they want), since their responses are administered on the touchpad devices. In "normal" survey environments, some respondents tend to pick an ideal number and simply repeat it for every question. I can imagine the number of instances where this occurs while people are constantly rushing on a WDW vacation are more than the industry norm.

IMO (and only IMO as a frequent WDW visitor and market research professional) results from market research completed in WDW are far from an industry standard (for the reasons I suggested). Even the surveys completed on the internet after your trip cash in on the "warm fuzzies" people feel recollecting their trips.

Anyway, just some comments and opinions on the whole research issue.