The Ecstacy and the Agony: 3/17-3/24 Trip Report

This report may be on interest to anyone travelling with small children, those staying at Port Orleans, or those considering the Disney Dining Plan (and of course to those who just enjoy reading about other people's Disney trips).

The title of this trip report comes from the Unofficial Guide's chapter regarding traveling to Walt Disney World with kids. We've been to WDW with kids before, but on this trip we had a 4-year-old and an infant. Over the course of a week, we all experienced plenty of ecstacy and agony.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't have been fool-hearty enough to attempt such a trip. We went in 2008 when my wife was pregnant with our youngest. The idea behind that trip was that it would be a farewell to Orlando until the kids were old enough to really enjoy it.

But then a unique opportunity arose. I detailed the entire experience of planning this trip in this thread: http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=545256. If you feel like reading the background of how this trip came to be, go back and read-up. We'll wait for you.

For those who didn't bother going back to read the pre-trip thread, here's a rundown on the players:

Obviously, there's me. I'm the Disney fan in the family. More specifically, I'm the Disney parks nut. I had been to MK as a kid and Epcot as a teen. But I didn't get crazy about Disney until I went as an adult. My wife was a big fan of Mickey Mouse. But she'd never been to WDW. So when I planned our honeymoon, I figured we had to go to WDW. To be honest, I wasn't really looking forward to it. A few years later, I am here on the forums and my wife tolerates my Disney "obessession".

Then there's my wife, Mindy. I've pretty much told her story as relates to WDW. Honestly, she would prefer a more relaxing vacation than Disney World. Her idea of a vacation would be somewhere she can watch TV and swim. Yes, she can do both of those things at WDW. But I'm constantly dragging her out to the theme parks.

Joey, our oldest daughter is 4 (going on 5). She's a girly girl and can sometimes be shy. Other times, she loves the spotlight. This was her third trip to WDW and she has some memories of previous trips. Also, I prepared her for the trip by showing her lots of videos and pictures. Before we left, she was appointed as "the boss" of what we would and wouldn't ride.

Kara is the baby of the family. At the time we decided to take the trip, she was just a happy little bundle. She just sat and smiled at us. She was slow to start crawling, but once she did, she took off. At 10 months, she started walking. Now at 11 months, there's no stopping her. She wants to explore everything all the time!

In a supporting role, we have my younger brother. He was a cheerleader in college and taught cheerleading for many years after that. Now, he has moved into a more professional career. But he still judges cheerleading competitions from time to time. One of the reasons he does this is that he gets free trips to WDW.

One more note before I get into the trip itself, there will be pictures. But it will take me a little while to get to them. So, bear with me.

Wed, 3/17: Arrival Day

Arrival day was agony pure and simple. I won't get too deeply into the details here as they are too painful to relive. Also, I think I've blocked them from my memory. Things started off promisingly enough with a cab ride to the airport. Joey had been looking forward to riding in a taxi for a very long time. And she finally got her wish.

When we arrived at the airport, we were immediately hit with a baggage handling fee. $20 per bag for three checked bags for a total of $60. This came as a surprise to me as an infrequent traveler. In 2008 (our last flight) there had been no such charge.

I knew Delta had changed their policy, but I didn't worry too much because I had bought the tickets prior to the policy change and we had been grandfathered in. It turns out, the new charges were for carry-on bags. With no other options, I grumbled as I paid $60 for my bags to go on vacation with me. My wife fumed.

The bag fees were a minor hiccup compared to the flight itself. As I mentioned before, Kara had recently discovered walking. Ever since, she has been exploring her surroundings like crazy. So for her, sitting on our laps for two hours was not in the cards. When we wouldn't let her play on the floor of the plane, she launched into a screaming fit that lasted for most of the flight.

If you've ever been on a flight with a crying baby, you know it's torture. But trust me, it's far worse when the screaming baby is yours. Thankfully, all the guests around us were very gracious. If they were bothered, no one let on. And several started playing games of peek-a-boo or smiling and waving. This would usually stop the fits for a brief time.

When drinks came around, we got Kara some water. She likes drinking from bottles of water, but it tends to make a mess. In this case, the mess was on me. This was followed by a biscotti cookie. The cookie plus the water formed a kind of cinnamon-scented cement which bonded to my shirt for the rest of the night.

We arrived at the Orlando airport exhausted. But we were excited to leave the negative behind us and start enjoying our vacation. Thanks to Magical Express, we didn't have to worry about carting around luggage in addition to two tiny tikes. However, we did have our double stroller and some carry-ons.

At one point during the trip through the airport, Kara pulled off one of her shoes. I scooped it up and put it in a carry-on bag. Later on, a couple stopped us and asked if we were missing a shoe. I assured them that we had the shoe in our bag. Until I looked and saw that the bag had a rip in it. We hadn't even made it out of the airport and we were down 1 shoe.

The shoe was a hand-me-down, so we decided to move on without it. Kara has a habit of tossing her shoes, so I never really understood the point of buying them anyway. She never wears them for more than a couple of minutes at a time.

When we got to Port Orleans, all the girls were tired. But I was still full of excitement. The resort was even more beautiful than it looked in pictures. It was sunny and cool. I was sure the tide would change once we got checked into our room.

The castmember at check-in was really taken with Kara. I had done on-line check-in, but it actually took a good ten minutes to complete the process because he kept stopping to play games with her. As a proud dad, I can't say as I minded. He gave her a sticker which she promptly ate (well, sucked on anyway).

We headed back to the room which was in building 28 in the Alligator Bayou section of the resort. It was a little challenging to find. The signs in Port Orleans aren't always as helpful as they could be. More than once during the trip, I took the scenic route to the room by accident. Usually, I didn't mind. But this time, we were all pretty tired.

When we got to the room, our bags weren't there. For me, this was not a big deal. I knew they were travelling separately from us. But apparently my wife didn't understand this when she packed. She had been counting on changing before we went out. So she wanted to stay in the room and wait on the bags to arrive. I didn't object as the idea of changing out of my cookie shirt was appealing.

After an hour or so, my wife reluctantly gave up on waiting for the bags. We had a lot to do and we were all getting hungry. Of course, I was still wearing a shirt covered in crushed up cookie cement. But with no idea how long we could be waiting, it seemed like a good idea to go get dinner.

The plan was to go to Downtown Disney. We were going to use our first counter service credits at Wolfgang Puck Express and then shop for an autograph book as I had promised Joey. Mindy and the girls would then head home and I would go to another resort to pick up our free tickets.

What we had not counted on was that Downtown Disney was packed. It was St Patrick's Day and even the counter service restaurants were standing room only. The line at Puck's was around the block. And my wife was now blaming me.

Mindy and the girls get especially grumpy when they are hungry. So I decided to try Earl of Sandwich thinking that the line would be shorter. I'm not sure if it was shorter or not, but it seemed to be moving faster. All the while, Joey was getting whinier, Kara was getting more fidgety and my wife was fuming.

I was trying to grab a table before we even got our food. But with two little kids in a double stroller, we had limited mobility. As soon as a table became available, someone else pushed through the crowd and grabbed it. No one took mercy on us.

After we got the food, I found an empty table outside. When I say it was empty, I mean it had been stripped of any and all chairs. But I noticed lots of people sitting at tables which were bigger than their party required (a theme that would run through most of our counter service experiences on this trip). I went from table to table asking for empty chairs. After being turned down a couple of times, I finally found a party that was willing to give up their empty chairs.

Finally, the day could turn around. Or so I thought. As soon as Joey saw her peanut butter and jelly sandwich, she started crying. She expected a pb&j on white bread with the crust cut off the way she would get it at home. Instead, she had a crusty, toasty thing that was completely foreign to her. She was inconsolable.

(The sandwich didn't go to waste. As would happen many times on the trip, Kara stepped up and finished Joey's meal.)

After our failed dinner, we went to World of Disney to buy the autograph book I had promised Joey. Joey and shopping go hand in hand. She would have been happy to stay in World of Disney all week. And after the pb&j debacle, I was happy to buy her something extra.

I showed her all of the autograph books and pens. She was very reluctant to commit to any one book or pen. Instead, she wanted to look at everything. Especially the toys. Unfortunately, I needed to see someone about our tickets and it was getting late.

My wife was still fuming about the entire situation, but she agreed to let me go pick up the theme park tickets. Long story short, I spent about two hours on Disney buses picking up the tickets. When I got back to the room, the girls were all asleep.

To my surprise, Joey had picked out an autograph book with Mickey and friends on it. I was sure she'd go for princesses or Tinker Bell. But instead she went for the old school autograph book with a matching Pluto pen. (more on this later). She also picked out a Vinylmation figure. (much more on this later).

Tired, weary and hoping to make it to Epcot by rope drop, I finally turned in to bed around 11:30.

Don't worry, folks. Things get a lot better on day 2. And we start taking pictures to break up all the text!

I'll post Day 2 as soon as possible. Thanks for reading.
 

Yensid40

Member
Have a great trip! Can't wait to read the report.

Like Tiggerish says, posting pics is easy. (I never did it before this TR either.) You just have to host the pics somewhere. I set up a free account at photobuckt, but there are lots of other places you can use. photobucket provides pre-formatted links you can copy and paste into your TR. Couldn't be easier.

It's pretty much fool-proof...

The report is over huh? What the heck am I going to do now... I have 20 days still and need some serious TRs to get me through this. Let's go people get 'em up!
 

Tiggerish

Resident Redhead
Premium Member
There's just something about Tigger...

There sure is!!

"The Wonderful thing about Tiggers
is Tiggers are Wonderful things!

Their tops are made outta rubber,
Their bottoms are made outta springs!

They're bouncy, flouncy, pouncy, trouncy,
FUN, FUN, FUN, FUN, FUN!!!..."




(I use photobucket, too, like lebeau)
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Thanks to everyone for all the kind words about the trip report. I'll try to get back as soon as possible so I can supply you all with another one. If you want to try to convince Mindy we should go sooner rather than later, she can be reached at IhateDisney@Dontwannagoback.com.

Also, I will be accept donations to the lebeau Family Vacation Fund. With your help, we can send this family back to Disney World!

:)

As it turns out, today is Kara's first birthday. Where did that last year go? For your enjoyment, here she is enjoying a birthday cupcake:

karacupcake.jpg


I swear, that started out as a cupcake. Any guesses what color the frosting was?

Anyway, I promised to sum up some last thoughts on the trip to end the report. So, in no particular order, here we go:

  • My one regret about the trip is that we didn't rent a car. Most every issue we had during our trip could have been avoided by having access to a car. The trip definitely would have been less stressful.
  • The airlines are just getting silly. Gonna have to think about driving next time.
  • Port Orleans is a beautiful resort. If only the bus service was better and the beds were a little bigger.
  • The dining plan just isn't worth it for us. We would have never ordered anywhere near that much food if we weren't on the plan. And rather than feeling free not to look at the prices, we felt restricted.
  • Tying into that, the situation with ADRs has gotten ridiculous. 4 months out and I had trouble booking some of the more popular places. And then we had to plan each day around the meals we scheduled at least 4 months in advance.
  • During the busy season, counter service isn't a much better option. At least not with small kids. Wrangling trays of food, kids, stroller and bags of purchases and supplies in the middle of a standing-room only cafeteria is not something I want to do on vacation. But I did it almost daily.
  • If you look at all the previous points, it really makes you think long and hard about staying off property. If you aren't using Disney transportation, the only reason to stay on property is the theme. I think I'd trade theme for lower prices, nicer ammenities and food at reasonable prices served in a more relaxed setting.
  • We totally skipped Animal Kingdom. There just wasn't enough there to make it worth our while. Joey wasn't interested in thrill rides. She didn't have the patience for many shows. And she's done KS already. We have a good zoo nearby. So, we took a pass on this park this trip.
  • Most of the people we met, both tourists and cast members were great. Hats off to all the helpful folks we encountered. And to those who just brightened our day by stopping to chat. We saw a lot of pixie dust out there.
  • I always knew it paid to get to the parks early. But I had no idea. This was the busiest we've ever seen the parks. But by getting there early and leaving at noon, we almost never waited in line. And we only used FP once!
I've rambled on enough. Thanks for reading! For those who are planning trips of their own, have a great trip! Can't wait to read the reports. Whenever we go back, you can count on another one from me.
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Oh, one other update I forgot yesterday:

Joey and her Jessie doll are still great pals. Joey's really fickle with toys. So, when we bought Jessie all I could think about was her sitting in Joey's room unplayed with while "When She Loved Me" played in the background. But from the day we bought her, Jessie has gone everywhere with Joey. So, that worked out much better than expected.
 

Ariel484

Well-Known Member
Oh, one other update I forgot yesterday:

Joey and her Jessie doll are still great pals. Joey's really fickle with toys. So, when we bought Jessie all I could think about was her sitting in Joey's room unplayed with while "When She Loved Me" played in the background. But from the day we bought her, Jessie has gone everywhere with Joey. So, that worked out much better than expected.

That is somewhat incredible for a 4-year-old...or any kid for that matter!

Really enjoyed your report, thanks for posting! :wave:
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
That is somewhat incredible for a 4-year-old...or any kid for that matter!

Really enjoyed your report, thanks for posting! :wave:

Yeah, I'm as shocked as anyone. I apologized to Jessie when we bought her because I figured she was doomed to a life of neglect. They aren't quite Andy and Woody, but so far Joey and Jessie are having a good ride.

Glad you liked the report. Thanks for reading!
 

Mr.Skunkape

Well-Known Member
Sorry to read that you skipped AK and did not go and see the Lion King show. For my family that is a must do as we think it is the best live show at the world. Lets hear it for the tumble monkeys!!!!!!
 

Tinkermommy

New Member
Have a great trip! Can't wait to read the report.

Like Tiggerish says, posting pics is easy. (I never did it before this TR either.) You just have to host the pics somewhere. I set up a free account at photobuckt, but there are lots of other places you can use. photobucket provides pre-formatted links you can copy and paste into your TR. Couldn't be easier.

I wonder if the reason I seem to be having trouble posting pictures is that the posting rules at the bottom of the page say I may not post attachments? The FAQs say there should be a button that says "manage attachments" under the message box to clickbut I don't have that. I'm not usually this inept at posting things but seem to be clueless on this one...(insert smilie scratching its head). :)
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Sorry to read that you skipped AK and did not go and see the Lion King show. For my family that is a must do as we think it is the best live show at the world. Lets hear it for the tumble monkeys!!!!!!

We thought about going and seeing either FotLK or Nemo. But ultimately, we decided neither one was worth the bus ride this trip. We've seen FotLK before. And we'll definitely catch both sometime in the future.

But I agree, it's a great show. And our failure to go to AK was no slight against the show or the park. Although, I do think the park needs a dark ride or two.
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Kara is a girl after my own heart!

She loves her food! She gets that from me, I'm sure.

If you continue having trouble posting pics, let me know and I'll see if I can walk you through it. The key is to host the pictures somewhere else (Photobucket, Facebook, etc) and then link to them here.
 

Tinkermommy

New Member
Thank you for the offer! :wave: However, I would be way too embarassed to take you up on it. I am determined to figure it out myself. :hammer:
 

atsolomon

Well-Known Member
Excellent trip report.

I believe I've read elsewhere that the camera care centers at WDW will charge your camera batteries for you. What a bummer that your camera battery gave out on you.

Having gone to WDW with a 3 year old and then a 3 year old and a 7 year old, I was really struck by how much the kids need to do familiar activities like drawing on masks or playing in a park such as Pooh's Playful Spot or the Honey I Shrunk the Kids playgrounds.

I'll also echo that having a rental car makes life a lot easier, particularly when you want to go somewhere on site that the hub & spoke Disney transport isn't set up for. Such as going to another resort hotel for dinner.

Thanks for taking the time to write it all up for us.

--Adam
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Excellent trip report.

I believe I've read elsewhere that the camera care centers at WDW will charge your camera batteries for you. What a bummer that your camera battery gave out on you.

Having gone to WDW with a 3 year old and then a 3 year old and a 7 year old, I was really struck by how much the kids need to do familiar activities like drawing on masks or playing in a park such as Pooh's Playful Spot or the Honey I Shrunk the Kids playgrounds.

I'll also echo that having a rental car makes life a lot easier, particularly when you want to go somewhere on site that the hub & spoke Disney transport isn't set up for. Such as going to another resort hotel for dinner.

Thanks for taking the time to write it all up for us.

--Adam

Hey,

Glad you liked the write-up. Thanks for taking the time to read it all.

I read the same thing about camera batteries. Several times, I came close to popping into a camera care center to see if this was true. But it just never worked out that way. At one point, I was standing outside the camera shop in DHS with the camera in hand only to realize that the store closed before the park did.

Obviously, we switched to the back-up camera instead. Honestly, the low quality of the pictures is probably user error. When we took pictures, there were a lot of technical read-outs we just ignored. We really need to familiarize ourselves with the new camera some time.

You make a good point about little kids and doing things that are familiar. As much as Joey loved things like the Tea Cups or having breakfast with princesses in the castle, she kept coming back to familiar things like coloring, swimming and play grounds. It hadn't occurred to me that perhaps these actities grounded the entire experience for her because they were familiar when everything else around her was new. Interesting!
 

LeafsFanNL

Active Member
I really enjoyed your Trip Report, and thank you for the time you spent writing it. Some observations.

(A) I wonder if some of your Disney Transport frustrations have to do with the age of your adorable girls. On our first trip Easter of 2007 our boys were about to turn 6. They were pretty much entirely mobile and we didn't mind the ocassion waits.

(B) We stayed at POFQ and POR Easter time in 2007 and 2008 respectively, and had one 20 minute wait once. We never had standing room only busses on the way to a park, and only twice on the way home.

(C) We just got back from the Wilderness Lodge last Friday and Disney Transport was the best we have ever seen. We had a 10 minute wait on two occasions only. Busses to EPCOT go to Fort Wilderness. AK and HS busses go by the GF first, neither bothered us. I had a rental car at the hotel for the entire week that I never was even tempted to use.

I guess it just goes to show that people's experience with Disney's Transportation is hit or miss.

HB
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I really enjoyed your Trip Report, and thank you for the time you spent writing it. Some observations.

(A) I wonder if some of your Disney Transport frustrations have to do with the age of your adorable girls. On our first trip Easter of 2007 our boys were about to turn 6. They were pretty much entirely mobile and we didn't mind the ocassion waits.

(B) We stayed at POFQ and POR Easter time in 2007 and 2008 respectively, and had one 20 minute wait once. We never had standing room only busses on the way to a park, and only twice on the way home.

(C) We just got back from the Wilderness Lodge last Friday and Disney Transport was the best we have ever seen. We had a 10 minute wait on two occasions only. Busses to EPCOT go to Fort Wilderness. AK and HS busses go by the GF first, neither bothered us. I had a rental car at the hotel for the entire week that I never was even tempted to use.

I guess it just goes to show that people's experience with Disney's Transportation is hit or miss.

HB

A) Absolutely. If it had just been Mindy and myself, the transportation issues would have been a minor annoyance. If the girls were old enough that we didn't have to cart around the gigantic double stroller, it would have been annoying, but not a major issue. A big part of the problem was that we had to wait for busses, and then Kara squirmed her way through nearly every bus ride because she wanted to play on the floor. The age of our children was a big part of why the busses were so difficult for us.

B) I marvel at your good fortune (or my bad luck - whichever was in force here). We usually didn't have standing room only on the way to the parks, but it did happen a lot. On the way back from the parks in the afternoon or on the way to the parks in the late afternoon, we were usually fine. But evenings were always bad no matter what park we were coming from or when we returned. We considered ourselves lucky if we could get on the first bus let alone sit down!

C) I've heard a lot of good things about the bus service at the Wilderness Lodge. It's a resort I've always wanted to stay at anyway. But I have my eye on it if we do decide to stay on property on our next trip.

You're right about the hit and miss nature of the transportation. We've never complained about it before. And you're right about a big part of the issue being that we were traveling with small children.

Hope you had a great trip! I expect a trip report soon (I'm going to go look and see if one isn't already posted!)
 

WDWFigment

Well-Known Member
Wow...a wife who isn't "into" Disney?! At least you have daughters to help 'persuade' her into going!

Glad that the early issues seemed to work themselves out and the trip ended up being (from what I could gather) a really good one!

I agree that Garden Grill (AND Sunshine Seasons) is an overlooked gem. We love it. The fact that it overlooks one of our favorite attractions is icing on the cake! I somewhat share your sentiment regarding AI; I'm not a fan of the show at all, but I think the attraction is very well done. I'm still not entirely convinced a non-Disney property show that's past its prime was the best property off of which to base an attraction, but that isn't the appropriate topic for a trip report. Thanks for taking the time to write all of this, and glad you had a good trip!
 

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