BigTxEars
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Yep!
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The early word on "Malificent" is...
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Yep!
BigTxEars
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Is it just me or do movie making folks have more awards show to pat themselves on the back than anybody else each year?
BigTxEars
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Except for when they were giving high praise to Frozen when it was released. Then they were considered cinematic geniuses amongst the brethren of the Mouse.
Every chance you get to take a shot at Disney huh? I saw Frozen 3 times in the theater, would have down it regardless of the critics.
Now box office, yeah that was what I brought up in support of Mickey.
And let them play a serious role and they become experts in a subject because they "researched" a part........
BigTxEars
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Frozen was a cute movie. Disney are idiots for overlaying Maelstrom with it.Except for when they were giving high praise to Frozen when it was released. Then they were considered cinematic geniuses amongst the brethren of the Mouse.
lazyboy97o
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Plenty of people love to boast that they do not consider the opinions of critics, but if this was true then the critics would not have a job.
BigTxEars
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Not true. Fashion critics have jobs, food critics have jobs, music critics have jobs. Does anybody here listen to them?
lazyboy97o
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Huh?
BigTxEars
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What is unclear about what I posted?
Critics have jobs in all the fields I listed. Do you read/listen to them?
BigTxEars
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BuddyThomas
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And those are all good movies that got good reviews....well, I don't know about the Segal one but maybe. So I don't know why you are bashing critics when they have mainly liked what you like.My favorite movie of all time? Curse you for asking that question! I have no answer but I do have a short list:
Favorite Fantasy movie : Fellowship Of The Ring (Brought the characters to the screen better than I though possible)
Favorite Sci Fi movie : Aliens (great movie, better than the original IMO)
Favorite Comedy : Ruthless People (On man Danny DeVito.....)
Favorite War Movie : Bridge Too Far (Classic and tragic story told very well)
Favorite Horror Movie : Evil Dead II (Ash is the man.)
Favorite Historical Era Movie : The Unconquered (classic Hollywood, and oh that red hair!)
Favorit Action Movie : Out For Justice (Yeah yeah Seagal, but what a great action movie)
Malificent might indeed suck, I doubt it though. At worst it will be a average movie IMO. We might see it next Wednesday at DTD so that will add a star alone to my rating
lazyboy97o
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Everything about is unclear. Your post suggests that if critics were truly dependent on readers then the membership of WDWMagic would put them out of work, as though you have properly surveyed the membership and it is that sizable. Even now you are asking about extremely micro, anecdotal evidence as though a single reader would make or break their audience. I don't have to read all critics in all subjects to recognize that they have an audience. All I am getting from your two posts is the bizarre suggestion that critics are a bunch of con men who have somehow tricked a bunch of people to pay them while nobody at all reads what they write.
BigTxEars
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I was not clear enough, I am not bashing critics. I am saying their opinions do not sway me at all in regards to what movies I go see. They do not have any real insight to what I enjoy or what I do not enjoy in a movie.
Take the 13th Warrior, a very enjoyable movie that for whatever reason they felt I was not suppose to enjoy. I did in fact enjoy it. Had I read the review and not watched the movie I would have missed out on that enjoyment.
Or take Godzilla, many critics seemed to enjoy it. I did enjoy parts of it but overall it was a disappointment. I want a Godzilla movie with a wee bit more Godzilla it in, and Godzilla as a "balancer" of nature? Come on smash some stuff already will you?
But other movies like Saving Private Ryan we agree upon.
I am not anti critic but I certainly do not look upon them as a resource for what movies I might enjoy. They are just people giving their opinion and nothing more.
And watch Out For Justice it is awesome
Ahhh action movie greatness!
Animaniac93-98
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If that were true, then why would they ever write bad reviews?
BigTxEars
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What are you talking about?
You posted
"Plenty of people love to boast that they do not consider the opinions of critics, but if this was true then the critics would not have a job."
So the "plenty of people" who boast they do not consider the opinions of critics are lying ?
That is not true based upon your logic that the critics would not have jobs if it were. The only ones effecting the job of the critic are the people who do consider and read their opinion, the one who do not have zero effect on their job.
I do not watch romantic movies, plenty of other people do not watch them either. But they make romantic movies because plenty of people do. Same thing with critics, plenty of people read them and plenty of people do not.
Not sure I can make it any more clear than that, I am pretty sure I do not care to try.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but as of today, Variety, LA Weekly, NY Observer, Associated Press, and USA Today have all kind of trashed it.
Yeah, bummer...it's at 54% at Rotten Tomatoes too, for what that's worth...I'll probably still go see it, though.
You know, I just don't get it...aren't there ANY good fantasy-film scriptwriters in Hollywood anymore? "Oz the Great and Powerful" had a really meh script, and now it sounds like "Maleficent" has the same issue. I think part of the overall problem with such films is that ANY live-action fantasy film has to be "edgy" and "dark". But why? Damn, what I wouldn't give for a new live-action fantasy with the enchantment and heart of a "Mary Poppins". But Hollywood is convinced, I guess, that something like that wouldn't succeed today.
Well, I beg to differ. I think they're full of it. I think families are STARVING for something like that. I wish Disney would step up to the plate and give us something like that, instead of following the same tired dark-fantasy tropes. Oh well. I'll see "Maleficent" this weekend, and give my review here afterward, FWIW...
Californian Elitist
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^^^ I'm dying for something as good as the classics from 30, 40 and fifty years ago as well.
Tony Perkis
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Well if I were matching I would need one from you first right ?
But I can start;
"Gladiator" was given 2 of 4 stars by big daddy Roger Ebert. I would say it was a wee bit better than that don't you?
It got generally great reviews.
It got generally good reviews.
It got generally good reviews.
And their opinions are not reflective of the overall consensus from critics. Critics, by and large, still agreed that they were good films.
Tony Perkis
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Or take Godzilla, many critics seemed to enjoy it. I did enjoy parts of it but overall it was a disappointment. I want a Godzilla movie with a wee bit more Godzilla it in, and Godzilla as a "balancer" of nature? Come on smash some stuff already will you?
Something tells me you've never seen a Japanese Godzilla film, because the USA movie was actually pretty spot on in regards to portray of the character. Only the awful 1998 film portrayed Godzilla as a true foe versus humans.
Godzilla suffered a bit because of characters that served more as exposition pieces than actually characters, but the thing they did very correctly was staying true to Godzilla as a character.