I'm sure those CMs having their hours cut will greatly appreciate your long-term prognosis....
Tin foil hat must have sprung a hole or two....
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The Disney Shakeup - Bloomberg
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Disneyhead'71
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Uni will soon have more than 5 hotels. And they aren't joint ventures. They are Universal owned. Loews is a only the operational manager of the resorts.
asianway
Well-Known Member
Slide 33 on the Q4, 2015 overview. Has something changed?
http://ir.loews.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=102789&p=irol-financials
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Nah, the economic realities are why the parks aren't going anywhere. When times are good, as they generally are right now, the parks look like a burden. They're capital-intensive and grow slowly while the studio churns out Marvel and Star Wars and crushes it at the box office. However, when things turn south and go bad in other areas of the business, that slow and steady growth at Parks starts to look less like a burden and more like a buoy.
Rodan75
Well-Known Member
That doesn't change my point. Disney and Comcast have both 'educated' the analyst community that the Parks & Resorts division is essential in maximizing the revenue from IPs. It would be a difficult argument to separate Parks & Resorts from DCP and the Film Studios at this point.
asianway
Well-Known Member
The same could be accomplished though a licensing fee, with a ton less tisk
jt04
Well-Known Member
Obviously your lack of exposure to free markets has hindered your ability to understand how they work.
jt04
Well-Known Member
SWL and TSL will employ many more than what they are replacing. Including high paying construction jobs and long term permanent positions.
Same is true for Pandora. Frozen. Soarin etc.
Move along junior.
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
Looks like I was incorrect. They are in fact 50% owners of the hotels.
What is more interesting is that Loews is a 50% owner of Cabana Bay, but they don't want their brand name on it.
FigmentForver96
Well-Known Member
To bad that Frozen and Soarin will probably use the same group of people, If not less, because of cuts. Construction jobs would also be even more numerous if they built new rides instead of overlaying old ones.
I think he was talking generally.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Where as your lack of a functioning brain just hinders you period.
More random speculation and fanboi love going against the facts of the situation. Back to patching the tinfoil hat for you....
superchc80
Member
You don't have to agree with each other in order to still be respectful. Please play nice guys. Personal insults distract from the points that you are all trying to make. Now....carry on.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
. Problem with your comment is that I have no respect for JT, mainly down to the fact hes a cretin, he may even visit a park one day.
Smiddimizer
Well-Known Member
I have to agree. To post wild, obstinate conjecture is one thing, but displaying outright contempt for fellow forum members, on a consistent basis, for years when they discredit his delusions means he's not getting my respect either.
flynnibus
Premium Member
I think this thinking is completely wrong and why Disney is able to get away with this now.
Disney established itself as this powerful property because it was different.. and you felt like kings where everything was at this different level from what you were used to.
Then the 90s happened and themed entertainment started popping up everywhere and everyone was copying the Disney model. Disney no longer became the highest level of integration and theme.
This monetization of everything approach amounts to seeing a price tag smacked on everything. You don't get a feeling of being put on a pedestal and top notch service when everything you look at has a huge price tag on it.. premium no less. The further Disney gets from inclusive experiences with top notch service.. the further it falls from its peak. This is no longer getting special 'add ons' that make sense to be markups and are out of the way (like private tours, or private boats, etc).. this is throw a price tag on anything you can. And guests will see it.
This is Pressler 2.0 happening all over.
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
Interesting piece, but can't get over the writer using Jim 'Make It Up The' Hill as an expert source. You lose loads of credibility when someone like that is a source. Just lazy and easy.
Also, couldn't help but feel the piece was placed to help the 'No one can replace Bob Iger, so how about he gets the job forever?' camp.
Also, couldn't help but feel the piece was placed to help the 'No one can replace Bob Iger, so how about he gets the job forever?' camp.
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
I haven't stayed at CB (yet), but have visited. It is very, very nice. But it isn't a deluxe resort and Loews hotels are pretty much all considered to be 4-star, full serve hotels, not family friendly retro-designed homages to roadside motor inns.
EDIT: what @andysol basically said!
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
Other than maintenance, which still isn't nearly what it should be, it is worse than Pressler by far.
Disney is playing the airline 'unbundling' game and that goes so against the whole concept of a premium product. You don't see 'Everyone's a VIP' on those construction walls do you? How about 'We strive to exceed guests expectations'? Nope.
Everything now is about making every Guest unequal. Premium viewing. Upcharges on top of upcharges. Special access. Etc. etc.
And considering you pay a fortune just to enter the place -- and, no, WDW wasn't always priced so out of reach of so many -- the idea that all that does is give you the absolute minimum is a great way of diminishing your BRAND and inviting the one and done crowd.