The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

donaldtoo

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I guess I really can't speak for @Songbird76 , but I have seen my share of kids and sometimes there are just kids in a class that are jerks and feel the need to belittle others and have no sense of empathy for other around them. And sometimes there are classes of kids that take care of the kids with special needs or even if there aren't any extreme special needs they just band together and are nice kids to all. Fortunately most of the students I've had students have taken it upon themselves to be special caretakers of the kids that have had special needs like Down Syndrome and Autism. But sometimes we have gotten kids that don't care and are just a$$holes who won't listen to others or try to have empathy.

Oh yes, indeed, very aware of all of that. :) DS also had "normal" friends that kinda' watched over him, and all that, but, the teachers were all over it too.
I was just curious as to why she thinks the bullying is so prevalent where she is at. I'll totally admit I am completely ignorant of life in the Netherlands, and that is why I asked her for her thoughts.
 

donaldtoo

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Happy birthday to him!! And many more to come! Can DW have wine right now or does she not have pain killers? Have a great time in any case and please share any fun and shenanigans with the rest of the class here!

Thanks! :)
Only Tylenol earlier today, so none of the hard stuff, 'cause of the wine time fun. But, she'll be takin' some of the scrip here in a bit.
Thanks, again...!!! :)
 

betty rose

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Hi Guys. It's been quite a day. Hubby got up early with pains in his back...around 4 A.M. well, by 5 A.M. he couldn't go to the bathroom. Either a kidney stone or his prostate, acting up. Off we go at 6 A.M. to the emergency care place....next to our house.....we waited over three hours to see a doctor....It's unclear what is happening....hubby got a catheter put in, along with a bag. He is to go to the doctor on Monday, to find out why, the Doctor called his urologist and he ordered the catheter and bag. So....if he gets worse off to the hospital. Only to say....we are super tired.......it was a full day.......maybe tomorrow will be better. Gosh, I want to get off this merry go round. I haven't finished my packing...... I'm wondering if this trip is going to happen. I felt funny when we said yes,,,,,so many month's ago. At least I insisted that we bought insurance......
 

betty rose

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Years ago I met a client at their job site so I could get a better look at it.
After we had walked most of it, we were talking under a stand of cedar trees, and I suddenly noticed a bunch of tics on his head and shoulders, informed him about it, and he said I had a bunch on me as well. We spent the next few seconds knocking and flicking tics off of each other. I'll never forget it, and have never seen anything like it since...it was just nutso...!!! :confused:
Needless to say, every single cedar tree was gone from that site before they ever even formed up the slab. :cyclops:
Yuck! Those are so bad. I used to get them and they got really big......full of blood...Mom would take a match that was lit and then blown out and hit the tick in it's derrier' it would back out right away, and I was good to go. It sounds horrible, but it worked. I never got an infection. Mom would step on the full tick. Yucky!
 

donaldtoo

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Well, I can only really give you my opinion on our school as that's the only one I have experience with. The Christian school my DD went to for her 2 kindergarten years (if you remember we do 2 years of K here) and DS did his first "year" (actually only 6 months) of K...we didn't have that problem. It was such a small school...there were only 3 to 7 kids in each grade...I think we had 60 kids in the whole school and the older kids really looked out for the younger ones and it was just such a nice atmosphere there. But this school... to be honest I think the parents play a huge role. This boy pointing at a darker kid shouting "Turk! Turk!" His mom was in the parents organization with me and made several comments about foreigners and "not knowing what kitchen that came from...it might be from a Turkish or Moroccan home." He's getting that from home...try telling his mom there's a problem with him shouting racist sentiment in the gym. She's not going to see it as a problem because she's racist herself. He told my son in first grade he was going to kill him and our whole family. His mom laughed about it and said he probably just got it from video games. She didn't think it was anything big...a 6 year old making death threats...."He doesn't MEAN it." His intent is to make my son afraid...that's WRONG.
And they have this method where they are trying to teach kids to communicate themselves and set their own boundaries...good in theory, but it assumes that all kids respect those boundaries and will treat each other with equal respect, but some don't and the school doesn't seem able to differentiate between normal accidents and bullying. They treat each incident as an isolated event and don't see a pattern where a particular student or group of students consistently singles out another and purposely does mean things. Then it's a "misunderstanding" that my son just took wrong, or it was an accident that the kid just stepped on his foot...6 times in a row walking down the hallway. Or a kid says "Let's play a new game, called Kick the ball as hard as you can at ----" (my son) and they do, and it hits him and he cries and then the teacher comes and the kids say "It was an accident...I didn't mean to hit him" and the other boys all go "Yeah, it was an accident" because otherwise they will get in trouble. So the teacher tells my son "You know...those boys just play rough...maybe you should find something else to do" and they can't do anything to the boys because they didn't hear the comment and so they can't take DS's side. It's a combination of not enough supervision, sneaky kids, and unsupportive parents. In the morning, they had 200 kids on the playground at our old school and only 2 teachers to supervise, and those two teachers would stand on one end of the playground drinking their coffee and chatting. I once saw a group of 6 kids...one was getting frustrated with the others who were teasing her, and she started windmilling her arms at them while they are laughing and dancing out of the way....they were literally less than 1 meter from the 2 teachers and the teachers didn't notice a thing. They don't want to be out there on playground duty, there are too many kids to watch, the parents don't care....there was a group of parents standing 10 feet from where my son was being bashed against a brick wall and screaming his head off and not one of the parents saw a thing. The school relies on the parents to support them and help, and the parents say "It's not MY job! That's what the TEACHERS are for." But when the parents don't care, there are going to be issues. Sorry, that was REALLY long.

No apology necessary, as I asked for your opinion and appreciate that you took the time to be so thorough.
That cleared up a lot for me about your DS's situation.
I truly hope all the things that y'all want to happen for him do indeed happen. As, also, in the case of our DS, nobody should have to go through that much pain from others because they are "different".
Prayers...
 

betty rose

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@donaldtoo , I told your silly joke about the dry skin/towels at work. Everyone laughed. Then last night, we went out to eat at our local restaurant (we're Friday night "regulars" there with some other couples, too). Told all of them the joke, and they all laughed out loud, too! Keep it simple, keep it silly, and people love it!! :joyfull:
Me too.....simple is all I can do these days.....
 

donaldtoo

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I do, but it's usually my eyes that get itchy and swollen, not my throat that acts up. I can't lie down. I sleep sitting up so I don't start coughing. I have slept sitting up for part of the night ever since pregnancy though, because my hips would ache so bad after sleeping on my side for a while and I'd need to straighten out, but couldn't lie flat on my back or I couldn't breathe properly, so I would prop myself up for part of the night and I still do that. So last night, I just slept sitting up. No biggie.

Sympathy like.

I can't remember the last time I slept anything other than sitting up. I used to roll from side to side during the night, but, I find these days, I'm comfortable enough sitting up against the headboard.
I recently read that was the way most people slept way back in the day, but, that was way after I started sleeping that way... :cyclops:
 

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