The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

93boomer

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Goofyernmost

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I've eaten Frozen Custard before since I'm from Wisconsin. Wisconsin has a lot of Frozen Custard places. The first time I had Frozen Custard I believe was at Leon's Frozen Custard in Milwaukee, Wisconsin or at General Custards in Milwaukee. I'm showing my age with General Custards because that Frozen Custard stand went away in in the 1990s.

The thing is people outside of Wisconsin look at us weird or crazy if we eat Ice Cream, Frozen Custard outside in the cold. I am saying that because I remembered a person questioning the sanity of my parents for eating a Mickey Mouse Ice Cream bar outside in the 30s at WDW back in early December of 2010, but claimed that makes sense after finding out my parents live in Wisconsin.

It is not a typo about WDW being in the 30s at night. in 2010 December of 2010 was the coldest December for East Central Florida.
2010 was the same December where Raleigh/Cary got 10 inches of snow the day after Christmas. I didn't live here then, but I was here with the family for Christmas.
 

Lilofan

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2010 was the same December where Raleigh/Cary got 10 inches of snow the day after Christmas. I didn't live here then, but I was here with the family for Christmas.
10 inches of snow in the South would paralyze a number of towns or cities in the path. Even in Northern VA , Fredericksburg area and I-95 was hugely affected in that truckers and cars were stuck on the interstate with people having to hunker down in their vehicles for a few days before help arrived. When I lived in NC back in the day the towns would shut down if 3 inches of snow fell. I missed those snow days when kids got the day(s) off. One of my buddies who went to boarding school said there was no such thing as snow days in that the headmaster , faculty and their families and students, some support staff all lived on campus and trekked their way to classes.
 

Goofyernmost

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10 inches of snow in the South would paralyze a number of towns or cities in the path. Even in Northern VA , Fredericksburg area and I-95 was hugely affected in that truckers and cars were stuck on the interstate with people having to hunker down in their vehicles for a few days before help arrived. When I lived in NC back in the day the towns would shut down if 3 inches of snow fell. I missed those snow days when kids got the day(s) off. One of my buddies who went to boarding school said there was no such thing as snow days in that the headmaster , faculty and their families and students, some support staff all lived on campus and trekked their way to classes.
It takes less than an inch to shut Raleigh down if the cold remains and the snow doesn't disappear almost instantly. I had just driven down from Vermont for Christmas and I was staying in a hotel. I had to get back to my daughters house to get something to eat because all the places to eat were closed tight. I was used to driving in snow and unplowed areas so I just cleaned the snow off my car and headed out. Some of the streets in Cary are 8 lanes wide and I had it all to myself. Made it there with no problems and no danger of other traffic. My son in law had thrown away any semblance of a snow shovel when they moved so his driveway was untouched.

Down here they still have the mistaken belief that you don't send the plows out until after the snow has officially stopped falling. That means that many of the plow drivers couldn't get to the plows much less drive them, which caused further delays. In Vermont if a big snowstorm is expected they are out there parked in the rest areas on the interstate highway waiting for the storm to reach them and they start clearing and sand/salting the roads before they get unpassable. It's a much better system for everyone's safety as well as keeping businesses open. Rough on car bodies, but I can replace a car, I cannot replace my life if I get into an accident because of ice and snow on the road.

The next day in NC the temperature went well above freezing and by the 28th it was all pretty much gone and I drove home where, like a forecast of things to come, there was zero snow on the ground. However, a few months later when I officially moved it was very cold the ground was white with that frozen stuff and snow flurries all day as they were loading the stuff on the van and spitting a few flakes as I left and headed south. That was on April 15th and tells you everything need to know about how I anxiously, with no doubts, made that move to a more enjoyable climate.

I have predicted for years that there was a change happening. The south went from almost never having snow, now to crippling storms and states have had to invest in snow removing equipment. That was something that didn't exist in the 80's. Being over three quarters of a century old I know that I won't be around for the big deep freeze, but it is going to happen and end up with snowbirds heading north instead of south for the winter. That means that @MinnieM123 will have to move to Florida to get that cold snowy environment that she insanely loves so much. I'm sorry, it's a little harsh to say "insanely" lets just call it an unfortunate misconnection of brain electrons and their firing sequence. It's so sad, if she would just take her meds regularly, who knows, she might be cured. ;) ⛄
 
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Lilofan

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It takes less than an inch to shut Raleigh down if the cold remains and the snow doesn't disappear almost instantly. I had just driven down from Vermont for Christmas and I was staying in a hotel. I had to get back to my daughters house to get something to eat because all the places to eat were closed tight. I was used to driving in snow and unplowed areas so I just cleaned the snow off my car and headed out. Some of the streets in Cary are 8 lanes wide and I had it all to myself. Made it there with no problems and no danger of other traffic. My son in law had thrown away any semblance of a snow shovel when they moved so his driveway was untouched.

Down here they still have the mistaken belief that you don't send the plows out until after the snow has officially stopped falling. That means that many of the plow drivers couldn't get to the plows much less drive them, which caused further delays. In Vermont if a big snowstorm is expected they are out there parked in the rest areas on the interstate highway waiting for the storm to reach them and they start clearing and sand/salting the roads before they get unpassable. It's a much better system for everyone's safety as well as keeping businesses open. Rough on car bodies, but I can replace a car, I cannot replace my life if I get into an accident because of ice and snow on the road.

The next day in NC the temperature went well above freezing and by the 28th it was all pretty much gone and I drove home where, like a forecast of things to come, there was zero snow on the ground. However, a few months later when I officially moved it was very cold the ground was white with that frozen stuff and snow flurries all day as they were loading the stuff on the van and spitting a few flakes as I left and headed south. That was on April 15th and tells you everything need to know about how I anxiously, with no doubts, made that move to a more enjoyable climate.

I have predicted for years that there was a change happening. The south went from almost never having snow, now to crippling storms and states have had to invest in snow removing equipment. That was something that didn't exist in the 80's. Being over three quarters of a century old I know that I won't be around for the big deep freeze, but it is going to happen and end up with snowbirds heading north instead of south for the winter. That means that @MinnieM123 will have to move to Florida to get that cold snowy environment that she insanely loves so much. I'm sorry, it's a little harsh to say "insanely" lets just call it an unfortunate misconnection of brain electrons and their firing sequence. It's so sad, if she would just take her meds regularly, who knows, she might be cured. ;) ⛄
It amazed me that when I visited a few Northern states I would say 3 out of every 4 vehicles were AWD. It may snow maybe 2-3 times a year if that in a few states and we survived with RWD with sand bags and studded tires snow chains when it snowed much more frequently when I grew up in colder climates back in the day. No doubt South states are overwhelmed or probably do not have the budget and equipment to deal with winter storms.
 
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Goofyernmost

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It amazed me that when I visited a few Northern states I would say 3 out of every 4 vehicles were AWD. It may snow maybe 2-3 times a year if that in a few states and we survived with RWD with sand bags and studded tires snow chains when it snowed much more frequently when I grew up in colder climates back in the day. No doubt South states are overwhelmed or probably do not have the budget and equipment to deal with winter storms.
Never owned an AWD, or even a four wheel drive. For most of my life I used snow tires and my cars were all rear wheel drive. In the 80's I started to get Front wheel drive cars and vans and used all season tires year round. Never had a single problem that would have been helped with any of the options. In fact more AWD vehicles were sliding off the road into ditches because the owners felt that with AWD they were invincible, however, when there is ice on the roadway, especially snow covered the only way to know that you will not have a problem is if you stay at home by the fire and didn't go out at all until spring.

In 1980 my wife and I, left the kids with my parents and took a four day holiday to Myrtle Beach to play some golf. We headed out in February, don't remember the exact date, but I do remember it was around 18 below zero when we left on that Road Trip. We got as far as Washington, DC when an unpredicted winter storm hit not just the DC area but from there all the way down to mid-Georgia got at least 4 inches of snow. To my knowledge it was the beginning of the cycle that included the south in real winter events, not just cold air.

If there was a snowplow anywhere below the Mason/Dixon line they kept it hidden. Everything either shut down or was operating with the staff that was unable to leave because of the storm. I-95 was down to one lane and that was just tire tracks and the side roads a mix of snow cover and blowing snow into drifts. There were cars and RV's in the median or off the road, vehicles that couldn't move because all had just summer tires so they spun a lot. It was after that that the states started to build a snow removal organization which is occasionally adequate for the few storms that happen down here.
 
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Lilofan

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Never owned an AWD, or even a four wheel drive. For most of my life I used snow tires and my cars were all rear wheel drive. In the 80's I started to get Front wheel drive cars and vans and used all season tires year round. Never had a single problem that would have been helped with any of the options. In fact more AWD vehicles were sliding off the road into ditches because the owners felt that with AWD they were invincible, however, when there is ice on the roadway, especially snow covered the only way to know that you will not have a problem is if you stay at home by the fire and didn't go out at all until spring.

In 1980 my wife and I, left the kids with my parents and took a four day holiday to Myrtle Beach to play some golf. We headed out in February, don't remember the exact date, but I do remember it was around 18 below zero when we left on that Road Trip. We got as far as Washington, DC when an unpredicted winter storm hit not just the DC area but from there all the way down to mid-Georgia got at least 4 inches of snow. To my knowledge it was the beginning of the cycle that included the south in real winter events, not just cold air.

If there was a snowplow anywhere below the Mason/Dixon line they kept it hidden. Everything either shut down or was operating with the staff that was unable to leave because of the storm. I-95 was down to one lane and that was just tire tracks and the side roads a mix of snow cover and blowing snow into drifts. There were cars and RV's in the median or off the road, vehicles that couldn't move because all had just summer tires so they spun a lot. It was after that that the states started to build a snow removal organization which is occasionally adequate for the few storms that happen down here.
A buddy of mine who lies in the snow belt area has FWD cars but gets snow tires put on Nov-Apr. He advises during some bad storms that he gets from point A to point B while he sees AWD SUVs at times in a ditch, once flipped over etc. A number of them he advised don't change to snow tires but drive at a little higher rate of speed thinking nothing can happen to them with an AWD vehicle. Some have to learn the hard way. A cousin in the family drives his stick shift AWD Subaru WRX with stock performance summer tires which is surely not wise in inclement weather especially when the temps dip to freezing.
 

FutureCEO

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Never owned an AWD, or even a four wheel drive. For most of my life I used snow tires and my cars were all rear wheel drive. In the 80's I started to get Front wheel drive cars and vans and used all season tires year round. Never had a single problem that would have been helped with any of the options. In fact more AWD vehicles were sliding off the road into ditches because the owners felt that with AWD they were invincible, however, when there is ice on the roadway, especially snow covered the only way to know that you will not have a problem is if you stay at home by the fire and didn't go out at all until spring.

In 1980 my wife and I, left the kids with my parents and took a four day holiday to Myrtle Beach to play some golf. We headed out in February, don't remember the exact date, but I do remember it was around 18 below zero when we left on that Road Trip. We got as far as Washington, DC when an unpredicted winter storm hit not just the DC area but from there all the way down to mid-Georgia got at least 4 inches of snow. To my knowledge it was the beginning of the cycle that included the south in real winter events, not just cold air.

If there was a snowplow anywhere below the Mason/Dixon line they kept it hidden. Everything either shut down or was operating with the staff that was unable to leave because of the storm. I-95 was down to one lane and that was just tire tracks and the side roads a mix of snow cover and blowing snow into drifts. There were cars and RV's in the median or off the road, vehicles that couldn't move because all had just summer tires so they spun a lot. It was after that that the states started to build a snow removal organization which is occasionally adequate for the few storms that happen down here.

My first AWD car right now. No difference so far other than less gas per mile.

Anything is better than the KIA I had in the snow. It would snow than an inch and the car was slip and sliding everywhere. In case nobody sees the trend, I'm anti-KIA. I love my car now but they don't advertise. Nobody knows the car is there unless you see it or word of mouth.
 

Cesar R M

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My first AWD car right now. No difference so far other than less gas per mile.

Anything is better than the KIA I had in the snow. It would snow than an inch and the car was slip and sliding everywhere. In case nobody sees the trend, I'm anti-KIA. I love my car now but they don't advertise. Nobody knows the car is there unless you see it or word of mouth.
Don´t you need soft tires? aka winter tires?
That slipping thing happens a lot here with people who refuse to change the tires. Rear train drive have the most problems.
 

FutureCEO

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Don´t you need soft tires? aka winter tires?
That slipping thing happens a lot here with people who refuse to change the tires. Rear train drive have the most problems
My Honda never had that problem and I drove that thing in several inches of snow. But it doesn't snow that much here to justify extra tires
 

Goofyernmost

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Don´t you need soft tires? aka winter tires?
That slipping thing happens a lot here with people who refuse to change the tires. Rear train drive have the most problems.
That really is a myth. Letting air out of ones tires only serves to make the tires have a wider profile, but unless the sidewalls have a tread on them (the don't) all that does is create more resistance as the snow piles up ahead of the tire. The narrower the tire, within reason, the less forward or reverse resistance therefore making it work better. To much tire pressure is also a negative because then less griping parts of the tire are touching the pavement.

All seasons are just that, all season. Snow tires are not softer tires, they have to have a certain pressure to maintain the shape and hold the car up. What they contribute is a very aggressive tread design that when clogged up with hard packed snow don't help anymore than bald tires would but usually do offer a bit more traction. There is nothing wrong with changing if you like paying a small fortune twice a year, but once I discovered radial, all season tires about 50 years ago, I have never switched from all seasons, every season, with no problem. The biggest problem is not understanding what affect ice and snow will have on any car no matter what tires it has. If one lacks the skill it will be a problem no matter what. Unless, of course, it is pure ice under snow or black ice, hang on, because lowering speed and calm is the only thing that can save you and then you have to rely on the skill of others. Not a good thing to rely on.
 
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Songbird76

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That really is a myth. Letting air out of ones tires only serves to make the tires have a wider profile, but unless the sidewalls have a tread on them (the don't) all that does is create more resistance as the snow piles up ahead of the tire. The narrower the tire, within reason, the less forward or reverse resistance therefore making it work better. To much tire pressure is also a negative because then less griping parts of the tire are touching the pavement.

All seasons are just that, all season. Snow tires are not softer tires, they have to have a certain pressure to maintain the shape and hold the car up. What they contribute is a very aggressive tread design that when clogged up with hard packed snow don't help anymore than bald tires would but usually do offer a bit more traction. There is nothing wrong with changing if you like paying a small fortune twice a year, but once I discovered radial, all season tires about 50 years ago, I have never switched from all seasons, every season, with no problem. The biggest problem is not understanding what affect ice and snow will have on any car no matter what tires it has. If one lacks the skill it will be a problem no matter what. Unless, of course, it is pure ice under snow of black ice, hang on, because speed and calm is the only thing that can save you and then you have to rely on the skill of others. Not a good thing to rely on.
So many people don't know how to drive in snow!! My ex-boyfriend was AWFUL. His mother taught him that when it snows, you have to pump the breaks no matter what, and pumping the breaks meant tromping on them. He slid through every intersection in the winter because he insisted that you had to keep slamming on the break. I tried to tell him that you only pump your breaks if you are sliding, and you don't want to stomp on the brake, but press lightly until the tires gain traction, but he insisted his mom knew better and she had taught him. He was an all around terrible driver. How he was never in a serious accident is beyond me. Most people wouldn't even get in a car with him.
 

Lilofan

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That really is a myth. Letting air out of ones tires only serves to make the tires have a wider profile, but unless the sidewalls have a tread on them (the don't) all that does is create more resistance as the snow piles up ahead of the tire. The narrower the tire, within reason, the less forward or reverse resistance therefore making it work better. To much tire pressure is also a negative because then less griping parts of the tire are touching the pavement.

All seasons are just that, all season. Snow tires are not softer tires, they have to have a certain pressure to maintain the shape and hold the car up. What they contribute is a very aggressive tread design that when clogged up with hard packed snow don't help anymore than bald tires would but usually do offer a bit more traction. There is nothing wrong with changing if you like paying a small fortune twice a year, but once I discovered radial, all season tires about 50 years ago, I have never switched from all seasons, every season, with no problem. The biggest problem is not understanding what affect ice and snow will have on any car no matter what tires it has. If one lacks the skill it will be a problem no matter what. Unless, of course, it is pure ice under snow of black ice, hang on, because speed and calm is the only thing that can save you and then you have to rely on the skill of others. Not a good thing to rely on.
I'd say snow tires have improved stopping power on the breaks than all seasons. For now if I encounter inclement weather traveling I have the very noisy all season Firestone Weather Grip tires with a 3 peat symbol wherever that means. Dealer told me it is very good in rain, ( true ) and better than all seasons in snow if I ever encounter snow. Whatever weather I can control my vehicles better slowing down , accelerating in a pinch or in slower conditions with manual transmission. Also my breaks last a very long time since I downshift gears and or coast in neutral to a stop. One thing the dealers tell me which not one member of my family ever does is check and or pump the tire of the spare to proper PSI.
 
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Cesar R M

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My Honda never had that problem and I drove that thing in several inches of snow. But it doesn't snow that much here to justify extra tires
Technically its not about the snow itself. Its because the standard all season tires get harder and lose traction.
Under colder temps they can become as rigid as hard plastic.

Cold/Winter tires are super soft and maintain the softness beyond freezing temps.
But they get degraded easily if you drive them at above 8 Celsius.
 
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Cesar R M

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SIIIIIIIIIIgh...

recruiter contacts me, wants to make a phone call.. phone call is horrible quality.. mention I'm disabled and have trouble hearing from her. And the problem? she needs to give me 3 questions, which I was unable to understand because it needs specifics).
Now to see if we can do an in person one.. :|

, I hate how many doors my deafness as closed for me.

And now my confidence is literally 0.. and I have another interview tomorrow early morning. Also on phone.
And this is while using my implant direct connection. Cannot make the call sound better in any way or form after this.
 

Tony the Tigger

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My first AWD car right now. No difference so far other than less gas per mile.
I found this whole conversation interesting, not because of the snow (in which I drove for years in NJ and dealt with snow tires every year before moving south) but because I just test drove several versions of Honda CR-V yesterday. Almost traded in my Honda Passport for one, but they didn’t have the color I wanted.

I found the hybrid AWD to have a noticeably smoother ride, especially at low speeds.

I assumed it was because of the AWD. The sales guy said it was more because of the hybrid - but to me, the hybrid FWD (which they did have in my color) was not as smooth. I suspect both factors contribute.

Meanwhile, I still have my Passport, and it would be very stupid to sell it after all I’ve paid off, with only one year of payments to go.

But I’d love something with a better stereo!
 

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