The Brickers' Holi-Disney Christmas Vacation 2010 Pre-Trip Report

Planning for this trip began two days before we left for our honeymoon, when my parents informed Sarah and me that their wedding gift to us would be a trip with them to Walt Disney World at Christmas. Sarah and I had already figured we’d take a short trip down in early December, so this gave us the perfect excuse to make it official--and longer.

For those unfamiliar with us, we got engaged during Christmas Wishes! on the Beach of the Polynesian in 2007 and [url=”http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=616344”] went on our “Disneymoon” this summer following our wedding.[/url]. Between our engagement and Disneymoon, we took four additional trips to WDW in August 2008,
November/December 2008, August 2009 and October 2009. Since our Disneymoon, we took our [url=http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=647439] first trip to Disneyland![/url]

Phew, that’s a lot of trips.

The planning began almost immediately after we returned from that Disneymoon trip (actually, some of it was before we returned, as we began thinking about the Christmas trip on our last day to soften the blow of leaving).

Christmas is our favorite time of the year at Disney, and we hadn’t been at Christmas since 2008. I know that’s only one Christmas season missed, but it feels like forever ago. Here is a photo of us there from Christmas 2008:
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I don’t have any recent photos of my parents at Disney, so this will have to suffice. I’m sure they’ll be thrilled if/when they see these:
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Shortly after getting back from the Disneymoon, we made our ADRs. After eating far too many table service meals for our liking on the Disneymoon trip, we decided that we would not be doing the Disney Dining Plan. I think ultimately the Tables in Wonderland card will work better for us anyway, as it will allow us to eat what we want without regard to attempting to get as much value for our money as possible. While I love food, the DDP was just too much, and too expensive.

The next question was where would we stay? My father is a retired CW4/Blackhawk instructor pilot, so Shades of Green was the obvious first option. It has been a long time since I stayed there, but I remember it being incredibly nice and having a great location. I’ve heard it has since been renovated, so hopefully it’s even nicer. My mom also experienced an interest in Fort Wilderness Cabins, but I couldn’t find a good AP rate on those, so Shades of Green it would be.

Sarah and I were excited to stay in this resort, but were a little disappointed not to be able to take Disney’s Magical Express from the airport. We also would not be participating in little of WDWToday Reunion since it’s a family trip, so we began thinking of adding a day. When we found discount that gave us a room in a Value for ~$50, that sealed the deal. Given shuttle costs, it would have been foolish not to book the extra day for the two of us, right?!

Then, we discovered that D23’s Magic & Merriment would be occurring while we were down there. I remembered hearing accounts of this last year, and being incredibly jealous. However, I saw that we would have to add an extra day to the rear end of our trip to accommodate doing this event. Since tickets sold out instantaneously last year, I didn’t hold out much stock in getting them, figuring we’d make the change to our flight if we somehow got them.

However, the next day, when Sarah called DME to add our flight information, she discovered something. We booked our flights such that we were departing Orlando for Indianapolis, and then returning from Indianapolis to Orlando. I have no idea how we booked our flight like this, but we did. What’s even worse, after reviewing the flight multiple times on TripIt, neither of us had caught the mistake. That’s taking incompetence to the next level, right there!

To add insult to injury, when I attempted to rebook on Southwest so that, you know, we’d actually arrive in Orlando and not our hometown, the price for the return flight was double what we had originally paid. I knew I had to rebook to avoid running the risk of the flight increasing further, but I didn’t want to pay that price only to get a refund in credit (that I may or may not eventually receive, as our next flight will be free and there are time limits on using the credit), so I took a look at the Monday flights. The flight we’d want on Monday was significantly cheaper. Although I’m not superstitious, part of me didn’t want to book it for some odd reason. For lack of a more logical reason, I didn’t want to “jinx” it. Logic won out, and booking the more expensive day with the prospect of not being able to use the credit just didn’t make sense, so I booked Monday. We’d know in a week whether we’d have to book Sunday instead, so it wasn’t that big of a deal.

The rest of the week and the first part of the following week went by slowly as we anticipated 1 p.m. on Tuesday. For those unfamiliar with what this event entails, and why we were so excited, here’s the event page. Quite the slate of events. Sarah and I had a plan and strategy ready, and we both took our lunches at work so that we would not be interrupted when attempting to purchase the tickets. At 12:50 p.m., we both started constantly refreshing the on which the link to purchase tickets would appear. The link appeared for me about 20 seconds before it appeared for Sarah, and I sped through the purchase-process. By the time the link appeared for Sarah and she clicked it, she received an “Event Sold Out” message. I was able to complete the checkout, and just sat there in half shock.

I honestly never expected to get the tickets after hearing accounts of how quickly other D23 events sell out. I reviewed my email receipt information multiple times, making sure I hadn’t made any mistakes that would cause my order to fail, printed off multiple copies of the receipt and order confirmation screen, saved the screen-caps, etc. At $235 per ticket, this event will be our Christmas gift to one another. Even with the steep price, and our normally frugal nature, there was no hesitation in purchasing these tickets. While we are keen on purchasing a house in the near future, making the most of our time together before having children is actually more important to us. I don’t anticipate the housing market making a comeback in the near future, whereas these years are fleeting. At least, that’s how we justify it to ourselves. :)

The bad part about booking this additional day was that we had already booked that other additional day on the front end of the trip (and I was reluctant to even do this), and now the trip had bloated to 12 days. Given that I had just started working full time (although I worked summers and part time at the same location through law school), after the California trip, these additional days were a lot to seek in just five months of full-time employment on the year. C’est la vie, I suppose. It’s tough to look at the downside of additional days at Disney. Especially during the Christmas season.

With the tickets purchased, we became really pumped for the trip. We decided to make our countdown calendar when we returned home, which is always a milestone as it indicates that the trip is actually upon us! Here is the end result:
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Next step was booking another night at the end of our trip. Thanks to a Cast Member friend of ours, we were able to secure a night in a Value for a good price. Due to this, we’ll be staying in three different resorts for the trip: a former Deluxe (back when it was the Disney Inn/Golf Resort) in Shades of Green bookended by two different Values. Should be interesting. I’m not looking forward to those resort changes, but it should be worth it. (By the way, anyone know if Disney and/or Shades of Green will move our luggage for us? I know Disney does going from Disney resort to Disney resort, but will they in this circumstance?)

With these additional details set, we decided it was time to go online and cancel a good number of our dining reservations as we had made too many, not knowing our schedule. Much to our shock and dismay, all but three of our ADRs had already been canceled! Apparently, sometimes CMs go in and flag double-booked ADRs and will cancel them. The majority of these were not double-booked, yet they were canceled anyway. A little irritating, as we always cancel these ourselves and, so far as I know, there is no policy against doing this nor is there warning that the reservations will be canceled by Disney (just warning that you’re double booked, and a request that you cancel yourself). As this is a contentious issue, I’m sure many of you think we got what was coming to us, but that’s how we book our dining. We cancel the unnecessary reservations far before our trip, so it’s not as if there are any “empty” tables because of us. Anyway, moral discussion of Disney reservations aside, we rebooked some of the ADRs that we wanted without issue (luckily we didn’t have any “good” ADRs otherwise I would have been extremely agitated). I plan on consulting our schedule further on Monday and rebooking additional reservations as necessary. (I’ll also post the dining plans and daily schedule then.)

That’s where we stand thus far. Next weekend we’ll probably begin decorating for Christmas (yeah, I know, I know, but we love Christmas and won’t be around to enjoy the decorations for as long so we’re starting a tad early). Once we get those up, I’ll post some photos. I

 

Nemo14

Well-Known Member
Hi Tom - we'll be arriving on the 2nd too, but only for the weekend. Can't wait to read your TR after you return. I told DH that I might leave my camera at home and just pretend that I took your pictures! :lol:

Anyway, in reference to your SW dilemma, I've done similar bonehead mistakes (I once booked our flights, hotels, etc for the wrong week ), and I found out that you can cancel your SW flights, then rebook immediately using those credits. I thought I had to wait 'tilo after I didn't take those flights, but it's very easy to do it all online now, and there is no fee for doing this.

Have a great trip, and I'll be looking for you down there!
 

Monty

Brilliant...and Canadian
In the Parks
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You said you checked your ADRs on-line, it might be worth phoning instead. There have been issues with lost/missing ADRs on the on-line site since the various shut-downs for system upgrades, but when people phoned they were all there.

You may have a whole raft of ADRs still in the system.

Morgan and I are there 30 November - 6 December, maybe we'll see each other. :wave:
 

Computer Magic

Well-Known Member
WDWMagic will be empty that week. We arrive during that time as well. Of course, since you are in Disney have the month of Dec, most WDWMagic will run into you.
 

harveyt0206

Well-Known Member
Okay, now I am officially jealous of you and Sarah. Three Disney related trips within 6 months?? And 12 days during the Holiday season. Where is the "cold shoulder" smiley???? I am going to go pout.

(psst....actually, I can't wait to read the trip report. Disney at Christmas is a dream of mine. :))
 

Computer Magic

Well-Known Member
That's right you are from Valpo, I need to talk slower :p just kidding, I live in Lake County Indiana so I know Valpo and my job takes me to Indy a lot.

I was just saying with so many people from wdwmagic being in Disney during that time, WDWMagic will be slow..:hammer:

With you being in Disney for most of the month, you will get a chance to meet many people from WDWMAGIC.

That is all
 

Disneybird

Member
Hey Tom, I'm with NEMO14, I'll just use your great pictures. :lol:

How were you able to get on Main Street with so few people? Did you hang around after park closing?

My daughter (popsicletrees) and I will be there arriving on the 1st or 2nd too (well, she gets there on the 3rd).
 

WDWFigment

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Hi Tom - we'll be arriving on the 2nd too, but only for the weekend. Can't wait to read your TR after you return. I told DH that I might leave my camera at home and just pretend that I took your pictures!

Anyway, in reference to your SW dilemma, I've done similar bonehead mistakes (I once booked our flights, hotels, etc for the wrong week ), and I found out that you can cancel your SW flights, then rebook immediately using those credits. I thought I had to wait 'tilo after I didn't take those flights, but it's very easy to do it all online now, and there is no fee for doing this.

Have a great trip, and I'll be looking for you down there!

Ha, using ours would be easier than taking your own! Probably not quite the same though..given that we’d be in the shots instead of your family.

We did just cancel and rebook immediately, the problem is that the flight had gone up in price, so we would’ve had to pay the difference. Instead, we just booked Monday (which we ended up needing anyway), without an increase. Worked out after all!

We still deserve a Darwin Award for that one, though...

You said you checked your ADRs on-line, it might be worth phoning instead. There have been issues with lost/missing ADRs on the on-line site since the various shut-downs for system upgrades, but when people phoned they were all there.

You may have a whole raft of ADRs still in the system.

Morgan and I are there 30 November - 6 December, maybe we'll see each other.

Thanks for the heads up on this! I definitely need to call, as we have a number of ADRs right now, so there will be some wasted tables if they aren’t cancelled (if they still exist).


Have a great trip!!!

Thanks!

Okay, now I am officially jealous of you and Sarah. Three Disney related trips within 6 months?? And 12 days during the Holiday season. Where is the "cold shoulder" smiley???? I am going to go pout.

(psst....actually, I can't wait to read the trip report. Disney at Christmas is a dream of mine. )

To be fair, the first trip was our honeymoon, and everyone takes a honeymoon. The second trip was due to me being in a friend’s wedding, which was “required.” The third trip is a wedding gift. So, depending on how you look at it, we aren’t actually taking any “vacations” this year.

That's right you are from Valpo, I need to talk slower just kidding, I live in Lake County Indiana so I know Valpo and my job takes me to Indy a lot.

I was just saying with so many people from wdwmagic being in Disney during that time, WDWMagic will be slow..

With you being in Disney for most of the month, you will get a chance to meet many people from WDWMAGIC.

That is all

Lake County...well, that explains why you said we’d be in WDW for “have” the month of December. ;)

I get what you mean now.

Hey Tom, I'm with NEMO14, I'll just use your great pictures.

How were you able to get on Main Street with so few people? Did you hang around after park closing?

My daughter (popsicletrees) and I will be there arriving on the 1st or 2nd too (well, she gets there on the 3rd).

Awesome; hope you have a great time, as well!

I figure we can just photoshop our heads into them...

Now there’s a plan!
 

MSU Jafar

Member
I work for the Department of Defense and have stayed at Shades of Green since the remodel. It is a great hotel with very large rooms. They also have a Starbucks. Not sure if you enjoy coffee, but if you do it is very nice to have a non Nescafe coffee! I am a golfer and love waking up looking at the golf course! We tend to alternate years at Disney Resorts then Shades. Shades also have their own bus, which is nice. It is rarely full and since it is associated with the military, IT IS ON TIME!!! We often take the Shady Shuttle, a golf cart on steroids to the edge of the property or we just walk to the Poly and get the monorail. DW loves Shades because of the large rooms and the bus service. For me it is just doesn't seem the same as a Disney resort. However, you cannot beat the price and since the remodel it is very nice! Have a great trip!
 

sweetpee_1993

Well-Known Member
Wow, Tom! Merry Christmas to y'all!!!! What an awesome gift! This is one bang-up year for y'all, huh? Very cool. All the plans sound totally fabulous. I can't wait to see all your wonderful pics. :wave:
 

sweetpee_1993

Well-Known Member
I figure we can just photoshop our heads into them... :king:

OMG! That's so funny! You can do a complete trip report complete with pics just by photoshopping your family into a bunch of Tom's pics! I can't wait to see someone actually do this. If I had more working knowledge w/PS I'd hook my old laptop up to the hubby's desktop monitor and whip out a whole virtual trip! LOL!
 

WDWFigment

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I work for the Department of Defense and have stayed at Shades of Green since the remodel. It is a great hotel with very large rooms. They also have a Starbucks. Not sure if you enjoy coffee, but if you do it is very nice to have a non Nescafe coffee! I am a golfer and love waking up looking at the golf course! We tend to alternate years at Disney Resorts then Shades. Shades also have their own bus, which is nice. It is rarely full and since it is associated with the military, IT IS ON TIME!!! We often take the Shady Shuttle, a golf cart on steroids to the edge of the property or we just walk to the Poly and get the monorail. DW loves Shades because of the large rooms and the bus service. For me it is just doesn't seem the same as a Disney resort. However, you cannot beat the price and since the remodel it is very nice! Have a great trip!

Starbucks isn't exactly my cup of tea (actually have never had Starbucks). I'm not a big fan of coffee in general, actually. I plan on getting up early on several mornings and walking over to see the sunrise at the Polynesian. Probably will walk back afterward to meet up with my family and go to the resort, but it shouldn't be too bad. I am awesome at walking. ;)

Wow, Tom! Merry Christmas to y'all!!!! What an awesome gift! This is one bang-up year for y'all, huh? Very cool. All the plans sound totally fabulous. I can't wait to see all your wonderful pics. :wave:

Definitely a great gift--and it has been a busy year for us. I love watching Christmas movies and TV specials, so this report will likely end up being shorter than the Disneymoon one.

OMG! That's so funny! You can do a complete trip report complete with pics just by photoshopping your family into a bunch of Tom's pics! I can't wait to see someone actually do this. If I had more working knowledge w/PS I'd hook my old laptop up to the hubby's desktop monitor and whip out a whole virtual trip! LOL!

I guess if someone has the skill to do that, more power to them. :shrug:

Since I’m not yet fully sure of what ADRs we even have, I’ll just put down the restaurants we’re considering to get some feedback as to where we should go. If the restaurant is italicized, we’re definitely going there.

Booked:
Trail’s End - Dinner
The Wave - Dinner
Kona Café - Dinner
Kona Café - Breakfast
Sci Fi Dine-In - Lunch
Sci Fi Dine-In - Dinner
Brown Derby - Lunch
The Plaza - Dinner
Via Napolia - Lunch

Whispering Canyon - Dinner

We’ll probably end up doing 2-3 other table service meals besides Via Napoli and the Plaza. I’m thinking that we’ll do both Sci Fi and Brown Derby lunch. Our rationale in going to these restaurants is that we’d be eating light meals (is the Cobb Salad sufficient as a meal at Brown Derby) so we can experience the restaurant without ‘wasting’ DDP credits if we revert to the DDP in the future. I would also like to give Trail’s End a try, plus I wouldn’t mind seeing all of the decorations at the fort. Kona Café breakfast also sounds really good. Any other suggestions?
 

LisaG23

New Member
Tom- you will love shades of green....we have stayed there on our last four trips to disney and it has been wonderful. We will actually be at disney toward the end of your trip (we will be at WDW Dec 10-16) This is actually our first time NOT staying at Shades, we will be at the Polynesian! we are super excited! It will be my little girl's first trip/4th bday at WDW. We are super excited we will be at MVMCP on Dec12th. ANy back to SOG......the resprt is beautiful (especially at xmas) and the staff is super friendly. The rooms are very large and always super quiet (a plus when tired) THere is also a wide variety or wildlife roaming......we have has turkeys on our patio and when we had a view of the pond we actually saw a few gators!!!!!! They were small though.....you will have a ton of photo ops at SOG!!!!!! Enjoy it.....maybe we will see you around WDW (or at the poly at sunrise) dont be suprised if you hear someone jumping up and down trying to get your attention!!!!!!:wave:
 

sweetpee_1993

Well-Known Member
Kona for breakfast is one of my favorites but I'm also influenced by the coffee. ((BTW, Starbucks has tea!)) I've not yet had Kona for dinner but will in about 2 weeks. I've heard great things about that meal.

The only time I've eaten at the Brown Derby was when my sweetheart & I had the Lunch w/an Imagineer there. We both ordered the Cobb salad with our meals (I think they gave us soup and salad before the entree & desert). I could eat the portion we had of the salad as a lighter yet satisfying lunch. I'm not sure if that was a smaller than standard size or what but it was still quite big. In fact, I crave it these days. I think I might ditch my family & sneak away as soon as the Derby opens to indulge in the Cobb salad followed by the grapefruit cake. :slurp:

We enjoy Whispering Canyon a lot. We're strange folks who live & breathe on humor so the cast member antics ends up being just our thing. The food is our kinda grub. Love the ribs and the cornbread. Good stuff.

The Wave. Not done it before but it's on the agenda for the very near future. I don't recall reading a bad review of the food there. In fact, more than once I've seen "best meal of the trip". I'm in. Will let ya know.

I like Sci-Fi for lunch but not dinner. If I had to go for dinner I would but I'd ask for the burger which isn't on the dinner menu. It just feels weird to sit in a car at the drive-in and not eat a cheeseburger with fries & a shake. May just be me. :lol:
 

LeafsFanNL

Active Member
Hi from another WDWMagic member who will be down there for a part of your trip. Dec 8-12 Beach Club. If I see you I sure will recognize you from all of your pictures in your great TR's.

I loved Whispering Canyon when we stayed at WL last Easter week. DW was not so impressed. I liked the food more than she did, IIRC I had the steak and really liked it. I also loved the hijinks more than she did, my kids loved it. I'd recommend it.

As for Kona for Dinner, I can tell you that if you have an ADR for around when the crowd gather in the lobby for the Luau show, it can get mall food court crazy. you have the Luau guests, the people going into and out of Ohana, and patrons at the bar as well as a usually crowded Kona Cafe all occupying what is essentially the same spece. Don't get me wrong the food is lovely, I'd just take the time to make an ADR which did not overlap with the Luau shows.

As for Kona for breakfast, I'll let you know, we're trying it for a late breakfast on the ninth.
 
Tom, I have been following your guys journey since I became a lurker here at WDWMagic a few years ago. I always look forward to your trip reports. My family and I will be looking for you on your December trip. We will be there until the 5th. We hope to see you there.

We recommend the Kona Cafe for dinner. It has been one of our favorites for years. Enjoy your Disney holiday!!

Jim
 

the1nonlysinger

Active Member
:wave: We have some overlapping days as well! I will keep my eyes open for you & Sarah. I have enjoyed reading all of your trip reports- and LOVE the photos. I never knew that you could stay past park closing to take photos. Thanks for sharing- that's definitely something I'm going to try to do at least once. (Even though my photography skills aren't nearly as amazing as yours lol) Happy planning & have a great trip- can't wait for the post-trip report!
 

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